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Greenish
post Feb 22 2021, 02:26 AM
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Putting this here, for reference as the payload of the JSON feed link for Perseverence raws (see source in other thread here)
https://mars.nasa.gov/rss/api/?feed=raw_ima...;&extended=
Looks like there's a ton of good data in addition to just the (PNG! Bayer color separated!) images biggrin.gif

This is for the first image shown on the page at the moment.
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"images":
    [
        {
        "extended":
            {
            "mastAz":"UNK",
            "mastEl":"UNK",
            "sclk":"667129493.453",
            "scaleFactor":"4",
            "xyz":"(0.0,0.0,0.0)",
            "subframeRect":"(1,1,1280,960)",
            "dimension":"(1280,960)"
            },
        "sol":2,
        "attitude":"(0.415617,-0.00408664,-0.00947025,0.909481)",
        "image_files":
            {
            "medium":"https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00002/ids/edr/browse/rcam/RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01_800.jpg",
            "small":"https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00002/ids/edr/browse/rcam/RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01_320.jpg",
            "full_res":"https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00002/ids/edr/browse/rcam/RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01.png",
            "large":"https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-images/pub/ods/surface/sol/00002/ids/edr/browse/rcam/RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01_1200.jpg"
            },
        "imageid":"RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01",
        "camera":
            {
            "filter_name":"UNK",
            "camera_vector":"(-0.7838279435884001,0.600143487448691,0.15950407306054173)",
            "camera_model_component_list":"2.0;0.0;(46.176,2.97867,720.521);(-0.701049,0.00940617,0.713051);(8.39e-06,0.0168764,-0.00743155);(-0.00878744,-0.00869157,-0.00676256);(-1.05782,-0.466472,-0.724517);(-0.702572,0.0113481,0.711523);(-448.981,-528.002,453.359)",
            "camera_position":"(-1.05782,-0.466472,-0.724517)",
            "instrument":"REAR_HAZCAM_RIGHT",
            "camera_model_type":"CAHVORE"
            },
        "caption":"NASA's Mars Perseverance rover acquired this image of the area in back of it using its onboard Rear Right Hazard Avoidance Camera. \n\n This image was acquired on Feb. 21, 2021 (Sol 2) at the local mean solar time of 15:37:11.",
        "sample_type":"Full",
        "date_taken_mars":"Sol-00002M15:37:11.985",
        "credit":"NASA/JPL-Caltech",
        "date_taken_utc":"2021-02-21T02:16:26Z",
        "json_link":"https://mars.nasa.gov/rss/api/?feed=raw_images&category=mars2020&feedtype=json&id=RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01",
        "link":"https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/?id=RRB_0002_0667129492_604ECM_N0010052AUT_04096_00_2I3J01",
        "drive":"52",
        "title":"Mars Perseverance Sol 2: Rear Right Hazard Avoidance Camera (Hazcam)",
        "site":1,
        "date_received":"2021-02-21T23:12:58Z"
        },


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Here's hoping that one of you skilled characters can make good use...
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post Feb 24 2021, 05:01 AM
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Okay, I hope this is the right forum for this question - one of the things I really like about both rovers having the ability to take stereo imagery is the ability to see stuff in 3D. Is there a utility out there that lets us view images in 3D using a VR headset? I've briefly searched around but haven't seen much. Anaglyphs are cool and everything but it leaves a bit to be desired.
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post Feb 24 2021, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (bdshort @ Feb 24 2021, 07:01 AM) *
Okay, I hope this is the right forum for this question - one of the things I really like about both rovers having the ability to take stereo imagery is the ability to see stuff in 3D. Is there a utility out there that lets us view images in 3D using a VR headset? I've briefly searched around but haven't seen much. Anaglyphs are cool and everything but it leaves a bit to be desired.

Stereo imagery viewed in a VR headset is a bit underwhelming - reconstructing geometry using photogrammetry to create a fully 3D representation of a landscape is much more interesting.

I did this with some Curiosity imagery a few years ago, with fascinating results. If you have a SteamVR capable VR headset, you can have a look here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=928142301 - I typed up some fairly detailed notes in the description which will broadly apply to Perseverance imagery.

(Full disclosure: I work for Valve, creators of SteamVR. The Mars stuff was a fun personal project which turned into something a bit larger...)

Getting right back on topic for this thread - some notes on photogrammetry involving Perseverance imagery!

Some decent camera parameters* to start with in Agisoft Metashape (formerly PhotoScan):

Navcam
Camera type: Fisheye
Pixel size (mm): 0.0255 x 0.0255 (for 1280x960 images)
Focal length (mm) 19.1

Hazcam
Camera type: Fisheye
Pixel size (mm): 0.0255 x 0.0255 (for 1280x960 images)
Focal length (mm) 14

Using separate calibration profiles for left and right cameras may make sense - stuff worked better for Curiosity's navcams when I did this. (They're beautifully hand-made one-off scientific instruments, after all.) Metashape will further refine camera parameters once given these reasonable starting points.

It's all looking like really exciting data to play around with - navcam imagery in high-resolution, full colour after a bit of processing. I'm starting to figure out debayering stuff - I'm sure that this thread will come in great use!



* derived from The Mars 2020 Engineering Cameras and Microphone on the Perseverance Rover: A Next-Generation Imaging System for Mars Exploration
: Table 2, Perseverance Navcam, Hazcam, and Cachecam characteristics
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post Feb 25 2021, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (Cargo Cult @ Feb 24 2021, 02:44 PM) *
Stereo imagery viewed in a VR headset is a bit underwhelming - reconstructing geometry using photogrammetry to create a fully 3D representation of a landscape is much more interesting.

I did this with some Curiosity imagery a few years ago, with fascinating results. If you have a SteamVR capable VR headset, you can have a look here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/file...s/?id=928142301 - I typed up some fairly detailed notes in the description which will broadly apply to Perseverance imagery.

(Full disclosure: I work for Valve, creators of SteamVR. The Mars stuff was a fun personal project which turned into something a bit larger...)



Thats awsome! Great to see you here. I just ran into that two days ago. It is something I always wanted to do, but never fully found the time to work for a longer period of time. I have tried Photogrammetry on InSight, this is the result two years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYAwTm_ArE...eature=youtu.be

Big thanks for the info here an on steam! It will be surely very helpfull to others too.

To stay on topic: I had a run with a short sequence of the true raw data from the down-look cams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4WKIoTjE4c...p;pbjreload=101
I will just wait for all the EDL data to download and will have a run with the data in Agisoft. I tried with the MARDI cam. While it was capable of clearly registering the images, I must have done something wrong, as the last image ended up "under the ground". Anyway the Perseverance data surely look promising in that matter.

I am working on a stabilized 360 video as with the MARDI cam. This is a quick version of the underlaying layer simulating approximately the view from 10km above the surface. I made it from the debayered data. Propably impacted by the FFMPEG compression.
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