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ngunn
post Mar 9 2021, 09:47 AM
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I have a question arising from the recent surface images acquired by the Parker Solar Probe (but best discussed in this section, I think, if anyone has comments). Would a camera with similar specifications to WISPR but located on Earth or in Earth orbit be able in principle to image the night-side surface? It presents quite a large target when suitably placed and I imagine some sort of coronagraph arrangement could be used to exclude light from the sunlit crescent.
EDIT - link reposted here: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/p...g-view-of-venus
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post Mar 17 2021, 11:35 PM
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And here's the same from Venera 14 Camera 1, taking the three usable frames for this. It looks like there was a dramatic removal of dust between two of the frames that also perturbed the... debris thing(?) near the centre of the frame. There is only one usable frame from the Venera 14 Camera 2, so I will not attempt it on the other side. It doesn't look like any dust was kicked up anyway, being the famous "smooth slab" image.

Has this been noticed before? I did some googl'ing around and found Garvin 1981 and Greeley & Arvidson (1990) which talk about dust kicked up by the landers, but I didn't read anything on visual confirmation of dust being moved by wind.
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post Mar 19 2021, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Mar 18 2021, 12:35 AM) *
...It looks like there was a dramatic removal of dust between two of the frames that also perturbed the... debris thing(?) near the centre of the frame...

Outstanding, Hungry4info!
This is the first time I can see any movement on the surface of Venus!
Really amazing - after so many years you can still discover something new in such old photos.

The gusts of wind had to be strong enough to blow away the dust/sand that was lying on the lander's aerodynamic ring (sand/dust that fell on the ring when the probe landed).


PS Do you have the option to use slightly larger pictures for these animations?

And what exactly is this "debris thing(?) near the centre of the frame" ? Damaged camera cover?
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- ngunn   Venus surface images   Mar 9 2021, 09:47 AM
- - JRehling   The simple answer is, yes, it can be done from Ear...   Mar 9 2021, 06:45 PM
|- - JRehling   Another important thing to say here: The signal th...   Mar 9 2021, 07:14 PM
- - rlorenz   QUOTE (ngunn @ Mar 9 2021, 04:47 AM) Woul...   Mar 10 2021, 03:09 AM
- - ngunn   Thanks John and Ralph for filling in the picture o...   Mar 10 2021, 11:58 AM
- - scalbers   If measurements were accurate enough the surface e...   Mar 10 2021, 07:48 PM
|- - JRehling   It took me a while to find these but a couple of a...   Mar 11 2021, 04:35 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (JRehling @ Mar 11 2021, 11:35 AM) ...   Mar 12 2021, 03:13 AM
|- - JRehling   Indeed! It speaks loudly that a global map of ...   Mar 12 2021, 07:57 PM
- - Marcin600   Here are my scans of photos taken by the Venera 13...   Mar 15 2021, 10:05 PM
- - Marcin600   continued...   Mar 15 2021, 10:06 PM
- - Marcin600   continued...   Mar 15 2021, 10:07 PM
- - Marcin600   continued...   Mar 15 2021, 10:11 PM
- - JohnVV   this is the set i have seen most https://airands...   Mar 15 2021, 10:58 PM
- - Hungry4info   There's significantly more images from the sur...   Mar 17 2021, 10:49 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Mar 18 2021, 03:49 A...   Jul 27 2023, 02:48 PM
- - Hungry4info   And here's the same from Venera 14 Camera 1, t...   Mar 17 2021, 11:35 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Mar 17 2021, 06:35 P...   Mar 18 2021, 01:53 AM
|- - Marcin600   QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Mar 18 2021, 12:35 A...   Mar 19 2021, 07:33 PM
- - Hungry4info   QUOTE PS Do you have the option to use slightly la...   Mar 20 2021, 01:17 AM
- - Phil Stooke   A reminder that the Venera images can be found her...   Jul 27 2023, 06:16 PM


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