Invoking The Voyagers Against Id |
Invoking The Voyagers Against Id |
Oct 24 2005, 03:04 PM
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Cornell President Rawlings Condemns Intelligent Design
Drawing from sources ranging from Cornell's founders to Voyager space missions, Interim President Hunter R. Rawlings III condemned the push to teach intelligent design in public schools Friday. The attack came during the president's State of... http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/...4/435c7762cf891 "The desire to understand the world and the desire to reform it are the two great engines of progress." - Bertrand Russell -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Nov 4 2005, 08:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. Member No.: 86 |
I don't feel I've researched enough about exactly how afraid of science the catholic church has been throughout history, so I won't comment on that.. but look at just how well they've been doing lately.
Regardless of that, I think that science and spirtuality can eventually merge together quite nicely. There is no reason to think that one couldn't produce so much evidence of what happens once you're clinically dead (no oxygen in the brain for some time) that only an insane person wouldn't believe there is life after death. Whether that life after death involves good ole' heaven and hell and some 'God' sitting on a throne and judging you I highly doubt, but hey, I could be wrong. There are so many religions, though, I wonder how exactly the Great One in the Sky expected me to know which one to follow, exactly.. I guess he's just a BIG JOKER. YOU GOT ME, BIG GUY! |
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Guest_Richard Trigaux_* |
Nov 4 2005, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (mike @ Nov 4 2005, 08:28 PM) Regardless of that, I think that science and spirtuality can eventually merge together quite nicely. There is no reason to think that one couldn't produce so much evidence of what happens once you're clinically dead (no oxygen in the brain for some time) that only an insane person wouldn't believe there is life after death. Whether that life after death involves good ole' heaven and hell and some 'God' sitting on a throne and judging you I highly doubt, but hey, I could be wrong. There are so many religions, though, I wonder how exactly the Great One in the Sky expected me to know which one to follow, exactly.. I guess he's just a BIG JOKER. YOU GOT ME, BIG GUY! I agree with all this. It is said that persons being temporarily brain dead were reporting consciousness experiences aferwards. I could tell the story of a woman who had her brain cooled at 16°C for a delicate surgery, and who reported experiences during this time. The problem is that this matter is not considered seriously, there are no institutionnal checking, so I am not completelly sure that this story is real. However you could check one of the best links I know: Horizon foundation, which is not hoaglandite but from scientists. The stories of judgment and God sitting on a throne is obviously invented, but it may hide some symbolic hint of what awaits us beyond. For instance, in a non-physical world where the consciousness is the "particule" and consciousness relations are the "physical interactions", it would be very difficult, see impossible to lie or hide our thinking. So we would be judged by everybody and ourselves first... To say that God is a joker would have led you to the stake some centuries ago! But I think it is true, in a way. And today science settled the issue: the works at the Princeton University proved that jokers perform better than mystics in telekinesis! Since I know this, I joke very much... (did the smiley moved??) |
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