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NASA Dawn asteroid mission told to ‘stand down’
Rakhir
post Nov 7 2005, 03:55 PM
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NASA Dawn Asteroid Mission Told To ‘Stand Down’ . sad.gif

The decision to stand down, according to SPACE.com sources, appears related to budget-related measures and workforce cutbacks at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California.

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/051107_dawn_qown.html

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post Nov 8 2005, 03:06 PM
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The stand-down will last for at least three months, until a decision is made. If there's a further cost overrun, the mission will be delayed into 2007 -- and if any new cost overrun exceeds $100 million, the mission goes into the dumpster.

I can tell you, by the way, that Andy Dantzler is furious at the Senate's attempt to retain the Discovery cost cap at $350 million.
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 8 2005, 10:06 AM)
The stand-down will last for at least three months, until a decision is made.  If there's a further cost overrun, the mission will be delayed into 2007 -- and if any new cost overrun exceeds $100 million, the mission goes into the dumpster.

I can tell you, by the way, that Andy Dantzler is furious at the Senate's attempt to retain the Discovery cost cap at $350 million.
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What would they do with the probe if the mission is cancelled? All that time and money for nothing?


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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 8 2005, 04:25 PM)
What would they do with the probe if the mission is cancelled?  All that time and money for nothing?
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To quote senior Nasa management during the pre-launch-MER-panic

"I think it'd look pretty damn good in the Smithsonian"

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- Rakhir   NASA Dawn asteroid mission told to ‘stand down’   Nov 7 2005, 03:55 PM
- - Mariner9   I suspect the reason is both budgetary and technic...   Nov 7 2005, 07:36 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Andy Dantzler said at the COMPLEX meeting that the...   Nov 7 2005, 09:09 PM
- - gpurcell   This mission has had nothing but problems. The ma...   Nov 8 2005, 02:35 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The stand-down will last for at least three months...   Nov 8 2005, 03:06 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 8 2005, 10:06 AM)The...   Nov 8 2005, 04:25 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 8 2005, 04:25 PM)Wha...   Nov 8 2005, 10:14 PM
|- - Marz   QUOTE (djellison @ Nov 8 2005, 04:14 PM)To qu...   Nov 8 2005, 10:23 PM
- - dvandorn   After reading Squyres' "Roving Mars,...   Nov 8 2005, 03:56 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Nov 8 2005, 03:56 PM)After ...   Nov 19 2005, 01:59 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, the trouble is that if you DON'T stick t...   Nov 8 2005, 06:12 PM
- - Mariner9   The Discovery missiong cap of 350 million really d...   Nov 8 2005, 06:33 PM
- - Mariner9   One last point: when I said "it sounds simpl...   Nov 8 2005, 06:35 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Good news on the Discovery cost cap front: the Sen...   Nov 9 2005, 10:41 AM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 9 2005, 03:41 AM)Goo...   Nov 10 2005, 07:29 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   It's at http://www.rules.house.gov/109/text/hr...   Nov 10 2005, 08:07 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 10 2005, 03:07 AM)It...   Nov 10 2005, 12:39 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   It's a decidedly souped-up version with a much...   Nov 10 2005, 01:06 PM
|- - tedstryk   I really hope this takes off. I mean, after New H...   Nov 10 2005, 04:58 PM
|- - ljk4-1   D A W N ' S E A R L Y L I G H T ...   Nov 18 2005, 09:51 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Word now is that D-Day for the report on whether t...   Nov 18 2005, 11:19 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The trouble with blithely doing this for Dawn is t...   Nov 19 2005, 08:33 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 19 2005, 08:33 AM)Th...   Nov 19 2005, 02:40 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (mars loon @ Nov 19 2005, 02:40 PM)Whil...   Nov 19 2005, 05:11 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Nov 19 2005, 12:11 PM)Third...   Nov 19 2005, 06:40 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Nov 19 2005, 05:11 PM)We ha...   Nov 20 2005, 05:23 AM
- - Mariner9   A bit of history here. NASA tried in the 1980s t...   Nov 20 2005, 08:16 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   There sure is. To repeat: let ANY mission get awa...   Nov 20 2005, 08:36 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 20 2005, 01:36 AM)Th...   Nov 21 2005, 05:59 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (JRehling @ Nov 21 2005, 09:59 AM)Becau...   Nov 21 2005, 07:24 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Does anyone know how much DAWN saved, in dollar fi...   Nov 21 2005, 05:43 PM
- - RNeuhaus   New updates about the DAWN's proyect: NASA D...   Nov 22 2005, 01:31 AM
|- - BPCooper   NASA has marked the launch as no earlier than Nov....   Nov 23 2005, 10:03 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Nov 23 2005, 03:03 PM)NASA ...   Dec 5 2005, 10:14 PM
- - Decepticon   From the current issue of Astronomy magazine. I f...   Dec 17 2005, 01:45 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Dec 17 2005, 01:45 PM)Fro...   Dec 18 2005, 05:52 AM
- - punkboi   Wasn't today (1/20) the day NASA was gonna dec...   Jan 21 2006, 12:35 AM
- - Sunspot   Can't see anything on the Dawn website about i...   Jan 21 2006, 10:07 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 21 2006, 03:07 AM)Can...   Jan 21 2006, 06:22 PM
- - Rakhir   Dawn will not launch this year http://www.space....   Jan 21 2006, 08:58 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (Rakhir @ Jan 21 2006, 01:58 PM)Dawn wi...   Jan 21 2006, 10:30 PM
|- - BPCooper   Disappointing news. And one less launch.   Jan 22 2006, 03:14 AM
- - RNeuhaus   Postponed due to technical problems with new techn...   Jan 22 2006, 03:45 AM
- - gpurcell   I suspect this project is done. Sound like there ...   Jan 22 2006, 04:50 AM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Jan 22 2006, 04:50 AM)I sus...   Jan 22 2006, 02:36 PM
- - nprev   Does Dawn have Hall effect ion thrusters, or is th...   Jan 22 2006, 07:03 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 21 2006, 11:03 PM)Does Daw...   Jan 22 2006, 07:44 AM
- - Decepticon   Sadly I would even take a scaled down project with...   Jan 22 2006, 02:39 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 22 2006, 03:39 PM)Sad...   Jan 22 2006, 03:26 PM
|- - Marz   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 22 2006, 09:26 AM)Yup. ...   Jan 23 2006, 02:33 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Marz @ Jan 22 2006, 09:33 PM)I agree. ...   Jan 24 2006, 02:50 AM
- - nprev   Hmm. Anybody tight with anyone over at the Planeta...   Jan 23 2006, 04:08 AM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 22 2006, 09:08 PM)Hmm. Any...   Jan 23 2006, 05:31 AM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 23 2006, 06:08 AM)Hmm. Any...   Jan 23 2006, 12:28 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That possibility was discussed at the November COM...   Jan 23 2006, 08:38 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 23 2006, 08:38 AM)I ...   Jan 23 2006, 02:36 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Jan 23 2006, 06:36 AM)Bruce...   Jan 24 2006, 01:28 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 24 2006, 01:28 AM)At th...   Jan 24 2006, 01:48 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 24 2006, 01:28 AM)A sad...   Jan 24 2006, 10:57 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Jan 24 2006, 02:57 PM)...   Jan 25 2006, 02:59 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   I really hope that Dawn flies, and reasonably soon...   Jan 25 2006, 09:07 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 25 2006, 02:59 AM)I als...   Jan 25 2006, 04:58 PM
|- - ljk4-1   DELTA ROCKET WORKERS SET TO VOTE ON ENDING STRIKE ...   Jan 29 2006, 06:52 PM
- - Redstone   NASA management is being briefed on Friday by the ...   Jan 24 2006, 06:31 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I got a message yesterday from Chris Russell yeste...   Jan 31 2006, 01:03 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 31 2006, 02:03 AM)Ch...   Jan 31 2006, 10:25 AM
- - Decepticon   QUOTE Bruce: How do you think these statements co...   Jan 31 2006, 01:51 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jan 31 2006, 02:51 PM)Cur...   Jan 31 2006, 07:47 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I imagine that what Chris Russell is thinking of i...   Jan 31 2006, 09:59 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 31 2006, 09:59 PM)I ...   Feb 1 2006, 01:50 AM
- - peter59   This is incomprehensible to me. Dawn may be cancel...   Feb 4 2006, 08:51 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (peter59 @ Feb 4 2006, 02:51 AM)This is...   Feb 4 2006, 01:07 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (peter59 @ Feb 4 2006, 08:51 AM)This is...   Feb 4 2006, 03:30 PM
- - nprev   I sincerely hope that NASA will allocate the resou...   Feb 4 2006, 09:01 AM
- - djellison   DV - spot on. Doug   Feb 4 2006, 03:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Let me add, though, that all this is entirely sepa...   Feb 5 2006, 07:32 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 5 2006, 07:32 PM)Let...   Feb 9 2006, 10:10 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   You know, that might be a workable Solomonic solut...   Feb 7 2006, 07:10 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 7 2006, 11:10 AM)Let...   Feb 7 2006, 07:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Mike Caplinger says that this discussion has gotte...   Feb 8 2006, 06:41 AM
- - Analyst   Orbital, the company building the Dawn spacecraft,...   Feb 9 2006, 11:13 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Analyst @ Feb 9 2006, 03:13 AM)Last ex...   Feb 9 2006, 06:50 PM
|- - ljk4-1   The following is quoted from the FPSPACE list: Fr...   Feb 9 2006, 10:15 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 9 2006, 10:15 PM)the...   Feb 10 2006, 04:25 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 10 2006, 04:25 AM)As s...   Feb 10 2006, 06:07 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Feb 10 2006, 06:07 PM)...   Feb 10 2006, 06:15 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   That is exactly what Dantzler said at COMPLEX -- w...   Feb 10 2006, 02:57 AM
- - gpurcell   Like I said back in November: QUOTE Now, I've...   Feb 10 2006, 04:36 AM
- - AlexBlackwell   Excerpt from the February 13, 2006, issue of Aviat...   Feb 13 2006, 11:36 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   NASAWatch/Spaceref is reporting that Dawn has been...   Mar 2 2006, 11:43 PM
|- - punkboi   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 2 2006, 03:43 ...   Mar 3 2006, 04:52 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Mar 2 2006, 05:43 ...   Mar 3 2006, 06:07 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Mar 2 2006...   Mar 3 2006, 06:16 AM
- - Decepticon   !%#*(*&%!   Mar 3 2006, 12:24 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Mar 3 2006, 11:24 AM)...   Mar 3 2006, 12:57 AM
- - Decepticon   I'm itching to see Ceres myself. The only thi...   Mar 3 2006, 04:12 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Hrmpph. Well, I can't say that cancelling a m...   Mar 3 2006, 04:31 AM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 3 2006, 04:31 AM...   Mar 3 2006, 04:45 AM
- - John M. Dollan   I only know that I'm hugely dissapointed. I...   Mar 3 2006, 05:58 AM
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