The Pioneer Anomaly |
The Pioneer Anomaly |
 Aug 16 2005, 04:27 PM
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Rover Driver  Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47  |
http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/pioneer_anomaly_faq.html
The planetary society may be checking it out... QUOTE The Planetary Society has committed to raise the funds to preserve the priceless Pioneer data from destruction.
After years of analysis, but without a final conclusion, NASA, astonishingly, gave up trying to solve the "Pioneer Anomaly" and provided no funds to analyze the data. The Pioneer data exists on a few hundred ancient 7- and 9-track magnetic tapes, which can only be read on "antique" outdated computers. The agency is going to scrap, literally demolish, the only computers able to access and process that data in the next few months! |
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Nov 9 2005, 09:10 PM
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Calculations using the 'MOND' theory (Modified Newtonian dynamics) also have been applied and did fit well with the Pioneer data. No fifth force needed in that case.
Some more on MOND here: http://www.astro.umd.edu/~ssm/mond/ |
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remcook The Pioneer Anomaly Aug 16 2005, 04:27 PM
remcook Some background reading...
http://arxiv.org/find/... Aug 16 2005, 04:40 PM
tedstryk Won't New Horizons be spin stabilized when not... Aug 16 2005, 06:53 PM
Jeff7 QUOTE (remcook @ Aug 16 2005, 11:40 AM)Some b... Aug 17 2005, 07:09 PM remcook Quote from alan stern:
QUOTE Yes, we spin most of... Aug 16 2005, 07:43 PM Richard Trigaux Could not the Pioneer tapes be saved on a more mod... Aug 17 2005, 06:37 AM remcook QUOTE It looks like the Pioneers have long stopped... Aug 17 2005, 08:09 PM deglr6328 QUOTE (remcook @ Aug 17 2005, 08:09 PM)that... Aug 17 2005, 11:10 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Aug 18 2005, 12:10 AM)Not ... Aug 18 2005, 08:24 AM Richard Trigaux As far as I understand from readings in the press,... Aug 18 2005, 06:59 AM The Messenger QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 17 2005, 11:59 P... Aug 26 2005, 09:08 PM antoniseb QUOTE (The Messenger @ Aug 26 2005, 04:08 PM)... Aug 26 2005, 10:42 PM The Messenger QUOTE (antoniseb @ Aug 26 2005, 03:42 PM)The ... Aug 29 2005, 05:25 PM algorimancer It seems to me that a simple means of checking thi... Aug 29 2005, 05:40 PM The Messenger QUOTE (algorimancer @ Aug 29 2005, 10:40 AM)I... Aug 29 2005, 06:12 PM edstrick Climate orbiter was not radar tracked, it was tran... Aug 30 2005, 08:52 AM Mongo QUOTE (edstrick @ Aug 30 2005, 08:52 AM)There... Aug 30 2005, 07:12 PM Bob Shaw Bill:
Your links, er, don't!
Bob Shaw Aug 31 2005, 11:28 AM Mongo That's strange; I just clicked on them and the... Aug 31 2005, 02:45 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (Mongo @ Aug 31 2005, 03:45 PM)That... Aug 31 2005, 03:42 PM Mongo QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 31 2005, 03:42 PM)I pro... Aug 31 2005, 03:57 PM The Messenger I am at least as interested in the flight path ecc... Aug 31 2005, 06:56 PM antoniseb QUOTE (The Messenger @ Aug 31 2005, 01:56 PM)... Aug 31 2005, 09:58 PM dvandorn Hmmm... well, the effect must be very, very minor ... Aug 31 2005, 07:24 PM Richard Trigaux Thanks to recent posters this thread took an inter... Sep 3 2005, 09:07 AM jamescanvin QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 3 2005, 07:07 PM... Sep 5 2005, 12:13 AM Richard Trigaux A rather interesting prospective explanation of th... Sep 3 2005, 10:07 AM remcook some people seem to agree and applied for funding ... Sep 3 2005, 10:18 AM The Messenger Richard's proposed test of the Pioneer Anomaly... Sep 3 2005, 05:00 PM Richard Trigaux Messenger,
my idea was intended to detect a gravi... Sep 4 2005, 07:03 AM Richard Trigaux The LISA observatory project will use three test m... Sep 5 2005, 08:57 AM The Messenger All of these approaches use assumptions we should ... Sep 5 2005, 04:28 PM jamescanvin Heading off topic but...
QUOTE (The Messenger ... Sep 6 2005, 12:17 AM The Messenger QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 5 2005, 05:17 PM)Hea... Sep 6 2005, 05:53 AM Richard Trigaux Thanks jamescanvin for the image and the info it c... Sep 6 2005, 06:37 AM jamescanvin QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 6 2005, 04:37 PM... Sep 7 2005, 12:27 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 7 2005, 12:27 AM)Yes... Sep 7 2005, 05:42 AM dvandorn Once again, I'm asking a question that I proba... Sep 7 2005, 07:36 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 7 2005, 07:36 AM)Does a... Sep 7 2005, 10:28 AM The Messenger QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 7 2005, 03:28 AM... Sep 8 2005, 06:21 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 8 2005, 06:21 PM)I... Sep 9 2005, 07:21 AM The Messenger QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 9 2005, 12:21 AM... Sep 12 2005, 01:49 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 12 2005, 01:49 PM)... Sep 12 2005, 02:23 PM The Messenger QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 12 2005, 07:23 A... Sep 12 2005, 06:56 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 12 2005, 06:56 PM)... Sep 13 2005, 10:15 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Sep 13 2005, 05:15 A... Sep 13 2005, 01:17 PM edstrick I'd have to check, but I think the Apollo 17 i... Sep 7 2005, 08:22 AM Bob Shaw QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 7 2005, 09:22 AM)The in... Sep 7 2005, 09:42 AM dvandorn QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 7 2005, 04:42 AM)Oooh, ... Sep 7 2005, 06:33 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (dvandorn @ Sep 7 2005, 07:33 PM)Oh, th... Sep 7 2005, 08:47 PM dvandorn QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 7 2005, 03:22 AM)I... Sep 7 2005, 06:41 PM edstrick When the gravimeter was proposed, selected and des... Sep 7 2005, 10:38 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 7 2005, 10:38 AM)When t... Sep 7 2005, 02:38 PM edstrick "From what I understand, though, even with th... Sep 8 2005, 10:49 AM edstrick It has been hoped that cosmic sources of gravitati... Sep 9 2005, 07:45 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Sep 9 2005, 07:45 AM)As far... Sep 9 2005, 08:17 AM The Messenger Suggestions, by anyone, of engineering on this sca... Sep 13 2005, 04:16 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (The Messenger @ Sep 13 2005, 04:16 PM)... Sep 13 2005, 06:06 PM The Messenger Returning to the Pioneer Anomally:
You may or may... Sep 14 2005, 03:31 PM Richard Trigaux Messenger, yes the Earth does have a "gravita... Sep 14 2005, 03:46 PM ljk4-1 http://www.issi.unibe.ch/teams/Pioneer/
The Pione... Oct 3 2005, 04:46 AM edstrick ljk4-1: "...The Pioneer Explorer Collaboratio... Oct 3 2005, 07:15 AM Richard Trigaux Thanks ljk4-1 for your interesting contribution. A... Oct 3 2005, 08:15 AM deglr6328 sooooo did the planetary soc. get the data or what... Oct 3 2005, 09:53 AM elakdawalla QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Oct 3 2005, 02:53 AM)soooo... Nov 10 2005, 01:29 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 9 2005, 08:29 PM) We... Nov 10 2005, 02:33 PM elakdawalla QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Nov 10 2005, 07:33 AM)De... Nov 10 2005, 04:46 PM edstrick <grin> by "anomaly" I mean an ord... Oct 3 2005, 09:57 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 3 2005, 09:57 AM)<gr... Oct 3 2005, 12:40 PM edstrick Aliens?... I thought it was the CIA and FBI.... or... Oct 4 2005, 06:27 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 4 2005, 06:27 AM)Aliens... Oct 4 2005, 07:37 AM edstrick You know what the problem is with make-believe par... Oct 4 2005, 10:51 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Oct 4 2005, 10:51 AM)You kn... Oct 4 2005, 04:41 PM ljk4-1 Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0504367
From: Gary... Oct 4 2005, 07:35 PM ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0506281
replaced with revised ve... Oct 26 2005, 02:08 PM ljk4-1 Paper (*cross-listing*): gr-qc/0511026
Date: Sun... Nov 9 2005, 04:32 PM Richard Trigaux I wonder if we could do any theory of any kind, ad... Nov 9 2005, 09:21 PM mike That's what a theory is. Nov 9 2005, 09:42 PM Myran QUOTE Richard Trigaux said: I wonder if we could d... Nov 10 2005, 05:21 AM lyford Call me old fashioned, but I am a bit wary of jett... Nov 10 2005, 06:41 AM The Messenger QUOTE (lyford @ Nov 9 2005, 11:41 PM)Call me ... Nov 10 2005, 04:44 PM lyford QUOTE (The Messenger @ Nov 10 2005, 08:44 AM)... Nov 10 2005, 10:06 PM ljk4-1 Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0505310
From: Mic... Dec 20 2005, 04:05 PM ljk4-1 General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology, abstract... Jan 3 2006, 02:31 AM tfisher I just read through the last paper linked. They... Jan 3 2006, 07:10 AM ljk4-1 Paper: astro-ph/0504367
Date (v1): Sun, 17 Apr 20... Jan 4 2006, 06:18 PM tasp I bet it is not as simple as this, but I will pos... Jan 5 2006, 04:14 AM mchan QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 4 2006, 08:14 PM)Any possib... Jan 5 2006, 06:06 AM ugordan QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 5 2006, 07:06 AM)One probl... Jan 5 2006, 08:52 AM Bob Shaw QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 5 2006, 09:52 AM)Wasn... Jan 5 2006, 01:16 PM ljk4-1 Can New Horizons participate in this experiment? ... Jan 5 2006, 02:22 PM djellison QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 5 2006, 02:22 PM)Can... Jan 5 2006, 02:43 PM ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2006, 03:43 PM)That... Jan 5 2006, 02:50 PM tasp If an objection to putting a Voyager into a slow s... Jan 5 2006, 02:45 PM djellison Damn good point actually UG - hadnt thought of tha... Jan 5 2006, 02:58 PM ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 5 2006, 03:58 PM)Then ... Jan 5 2006, 03:05 PM NMRguy QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Feb 23 2005, 09:20 AM)Yes... Jan 5 2006, 05:19 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (NMRguy @ Jan 5 2006, 05:19 PM)Alan add... Jan 5 2006, 05:56 PM tty QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 5 2006, 05:05 PM)Might h... Jan 5 2006, 06:47 PM |
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