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post Aug 11 2023, 03:43 AM
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Hey, everybody. Members of the admin/mod team met this week with The Planetary Society (at their request), and the bottom line is that the Forum will be transforming in several ways in the near future. As those of you who are TPS members probably already know they've rolled out a new interactive interface recently and their initial thought was to incorporate us into this in some way. During our discussions we made it clear that above all else we must preserve the high quality of discourse here and accessiblity of same to both the amateur and professional spaceflight communities at large. We feel very strongly that this unique synthesis benefits both communities substantially.

That said, we are also painfully aware that our current Forum software & interface is, in the words of one member of our team, "very 00s". We badly need a more modern, functional, accessible and sustainable platform, and there was considerable discussion as to what the best options for that might be. TPS agreed to investigate a bit from their side...but more importantly, this is where you the Forum members come in.

We respectfully ask all of you to please share your thoughts and suggestions on this issue. In particular, we would like to know your ideas in the following areas:

1. What aspects/functions of the current incarnation of UMSF do you feel are the most important to preserve? By this we mean things like topic searchability, opportunity to engage with subject matter experts. etc. It is likely that the current site will be archived with reachback capability, so this is the perfect time to tell us what you like & what you don't about the way the place functions now so V2 will hopefully be a significant improvement in as many ways as we can do that.

2. What things would you like to see in a future version of the Forum? Should mention up front that years ago we decided to change the name to RoboticSpaceflight.com but for various reasons that was too difficult for us to implement in practical terms with our limited time & skill sets (stuff like link migration, etc.). However, with this new major revamp that change will finally occur. Aside from that, we'd like to know what sort of modernized interface(s) you would like to see, and especially any recommendations in that regard based on your own experiences elsewhere on the web.

And of course any other relevant ideas anybody may have would be most welcome. This is your time to shine; let's hear it! smile.gif

Thanks to you all for your help, and as always for your superb contributions to our special little corner of the net.




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post Aug 15 2023, 12:31 AM
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One of my favourite things about the place is the simplicity of layout. I think there's a good (and hard won) sense of accessibility of threads on any given topics, without losing how complex those topics are when you dig into them. Good luck to the admin team and staff, I know from experience that projects like this involve a lot of hunting down bugs, I appreciate the effort!


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post Aug 15 2023, 09:03 AM
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Some thoughts folks.
As a humble chemist I've not had much to add here over the years, though visit it most days. On some occasions I have been able to add something from a science background and have also asked for, and received, help in the past. I have pointed work colleagues and others with a vested interest to the site before now; how many have kept with it I don't know. People from other disciplines can help through expertise - I remember a powder Xray guy from, I think, UCL indexing the raw Xray data from the first such measurements from Mars for example. I've no idea whether or not he stuck with the site; the notion of trying to assess that data from people whose activity has dropped is an interesting one. Many may be like me, but for many the lack of login-in might just show they never visit.
Of course one issue is that at any one time there might not be much going on in terms of big name missions reaching their peak. So that's where something directing new or semi-lapsed members to things might be good. As with others I enjoy revisiting the build up to events; in just the last few months I went back through the immediate timeline to NH at Pluto and then Ultima and revisited, for the umpteenth time, the Huygens landing. Great stuff, and genuine historical records of events that are forever drifting further back in time - in less than 18 months it'll be the 20th anniversary of Huygens for example. So many of the students who'll start at my Uni next month, and who have a genuine space exploration interest, weren't even born! Add to that the amazing, custom made imaging we see then you've got a genuine resource. BUT it does need signposting - took me a while to figure out the start of the really crucial timelines for the events I mentioned.
So without compromising simplicity, I think some method of directly linking newcomers to the start of the really crucial phase of some of those stories so they can "relive" the excitement would be good (not just to the thread but to appropriate posts); same for the best images.
This site is a goldmine of info and of contributions from people actually doing the science (witness Alan coming on the NH threads). That in itself should attract people who are genuinely interested and won't just add to unwanted nonsense. They will also have their part to occasionally play with genuine insight into their respective fields. But it has to be "welcoming" in terms of directing them to things that showcase the site's greatness and they should feel able to ask a genuine question and get more than "google is your friend" as the answer.
As was mentioned in a thread a while back, never underestimate the value, away from pure science, that the efforts of people here involved in the missions themselves and in image processing can have. Given all that's gone on, and is still going on, over the last few years, the ability of these endeavours to take people away from the hassles of Earth should never be underestimated. This site can help with that enormously; keep it simple as many have said but also don't hide your light under a bushel!
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- nprev   UMSF Changes Ahead- PLEASE READ   Aug 11 2023, 03:43 AM
- - Antdoghalo   Are Yahoo AOL and MSN even a thing still? We now h...   Aug 11 2023, 03:02 PM
- - Hungry4info   With the caveat that I'm old (now) and don...   Aug 11 2023, 04:09 PM
- - stevesliva   Mostly I reiterate what was just said by Hungry4In...   Aug 11 2023, 05:00 PM
- - volcanopele   A forum to look as a potential option in terms of ...   Aug 11 2023, 05:12 PM
- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 10 2023, 07:43 PM) We ...   Aug 11 2023, 05:29 PM
|- - djellison   UMSF was born in a time before Twitter, Reddit, Di...   Aug 11 2023, 11:13 PM
- - ngunn   The forum does everything I want it to and always ...   Aug 11 2023, 07:44 PM
- - Decepticon   Dark Mode.   Aug 11 2023, 08:32 PM
- - scalbers   Hi - yes more outreach sounds good, as well as lar...   Aug 11 2023, 09:40 PM
- - nogal   After reading through the replies, I fully agree w...   Aug 11 2023, 09:42 PM
- - nprev   Thanks to all for the comments thus far. Forgot to...   Aug 11 2023, 11:02 PM
- - Paddy   I visit the site twice a day and must have read ev...   Aug 12 2023, 08:47 AM
- - Toma B   I'm OK with the current iteration of this foru...   Aug 12 2023, 12:51 PM
- - Antdoghalo   I second djellison. I used to be on a site called ...   Aug 12 2023, 10:18 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Several points to ponder here. Generally I suppor...   Aug 13 2023, 06:56 AM
- - JohnVV   my only concern is that if facebook,twitter,discor...   Aug 13 2023, 12:13 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (JohnVV @ Aug 13 2023, 01:13 PM) my...   Aug 13 2023, 09:21 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   Things I could imagine being better: The ability t...   Aug 13 2023, 09:37 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 13 2023, 05:21 PM) ...   Aug 14 2023, 04:07 AM
- - scalbers   I run my personal website on a hosting service ...   Aug 13 2023, 11:49 PM
- - Tom Dahl   As a daily-reader and occasional-poster, I have be...   Aug 14 2023, 12:01 AM
- - Explorer1   Having lurked since the Mer.rlproject.com days, I ...   Aug 14 2023, 01:46 AM
- - nprev   Thanks again to everybody for your thoughful repli...   Aug 14 2023, 05:31 AM
- - Brian Swift   Like button, view counts (basic analytics), mobile...   Aug 14 2023, 07:57 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Aug 14 2023, 02:57 A...   Aug 14 2023, 03:56 PM
||- - john_s   I agree with most of the comments above (other tha...   Aug 14 2023, 04:52 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Brian Swift @ Aug 14 2023, 07:57 A...   Aug 15 2023, 09:33 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 15 2023, 01:33 PM) ...   Aug 16 2023, 03:54 PM
- - climber   Hi all and thank to Doug and Nick, This is the onl...   Aug 14 2023, 08:53 AM
- - jasedm   Hi everyone, and heartfelt belated thanks to all t...   Aug 14 2023, 02:14 PM
- - brellis   I've greatly enjoyed the wonderful images and ...   Aug 14 2023, 08:07 PM
- - marsbug   One of my favourite things about the place is the ...   Aug 15 2023, 12:31 AM
|- - PFK   Some thoughts folks. As a humble chemist I've ...   Aug 15 2023, 09:03 AM
- - Explorer1   I agree with PFK, some sort of 'greatest hits...   Aug 15 2023, 02:21 PM
- - climber   Re Alan coming on NH trait, I met him back in 2019...   Aug 15 2023, 05:45 PM
- - fredk   I agree with most here about not sacrificing S/N r...   Aug 16 2023, 09:49 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (fredk @ Aug 16 2023, 05:49 PM) No-...   Aug 16 2023, 11:19 PM
|- - MahFL   Sadly change is inevitable...   Aug 17 2023, 12:32 AM
- - rlorenz   I like the simple, clean layout. It's (relativ...   Aug 20 2023, 11:03 PM
- - vikingmars   Dear Nprev, Thank you for keeping us informed of s...   Aug 29 2023, 07:46 AM
- - deedan06   Hi, I'm new to this forum but I've been wa...   Aug 30 2023, 07:46 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   FWIW, I was a charter member of the Planetary Soci...   Aug 31 2023, 01:31 AM
- - Barnard   Please keep the UMSF name. It's a solid, solid...   Aug 31 2023, 09:42 PM


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