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Phil Stooke
post Feb 4 2022, 03:12 AM
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I am starting a new thread for this mission which should fly this year.

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Thorsten Denk
post Jan 9 2024, 08:05 AM
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Update #6:
"An ongoing propellant leak [...]"
"[...] in a stable sun pointing state for approximately 40 more hours, [...]"
https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1744543629392134194

Anything known about what caused this propellant leak?

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post Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (Thorsten Denk @ Jan 9 2024, 12:05 AM) *
Anything known about what caused this propellant leak?

I haven't heard anything, and there is not much public detail about Peregrine's propulsion system. But it started right after the system was pressurized and was large enough to disturb blankets. I can think of three root causes: 1) damage during launch vibration (hopefully unlikely since the spacecraft was vibe-tested); 2) propellant migration causing a small explosion that blew a hole in the plumbing; 3) pressure regulator failure leading to overpressurization. Assuming https://www.nasa.gov/stmd-game-changing-dev...in-space-talos/ describes what they ended up flying, the main engines were MON-25/MMH biprops but how the attitude-control thrusters (presumably monoprops) were tied in, I have not seen.


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post Jan 9 2024, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM) *
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1) damage during launch vibration (hopefully unlikely since the spacecraft was vibe-tested)
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I wonder if there might be an unexpected resonance- e.g. when the SpaceX Falcon Heavy launches from Kennedy Space Center, the Vehicle Assembly Building 'squeals' because it randomly has a resonant frequency with the Merlin engine exhaust.
Sorta makes sense that the first actual lift off a brand-new rocket is when you actually find out about the sounds and launchpad acoustics.
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post Jan 9 2024, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Jan 9 2024, 10:55 AM) *
Sorta makes sense that the first actual lift off a brand-new rocket is when you actually find out about the sounds and launchpad acoustics.

Normally all of that is determined by analysis and then the testing is done with a lot of extra margin to cover all uncertainties. https://blogs.sw.siemens.com/simcenter/spac...oustic-testing/

And it's not like Vulcan is that different than Atlas in that regard.

What is a little odd is that Peregrine was supposed to be launched with two prototype Kuiper satellites, but after all of the delays, those were launched separately. There didn't seem to be any place to put them on the Centaur, but it seems implausible that they changed the configuration enough to impact Peregrine unfavorably.

If Astrobotic decides this was a vibe-induced failure, I'm sure there will be some finger-pointing.


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- Phil Stooke   Astrobotic PM-1 mission   Feb 4 2022, 03:12 AM
- - Phil Stooke   https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/173712317633...   Dec 19 2023, 05:08 PM
- - mcaplinger   Fingers crossed. But FWIW, I am certainly not hol...   Dec 19 2023, 08:06 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1742233436457...   Jan 2 2024, 08:27 PM
- - nprev   Successful launch & TLI, spacecraft AOS just o...   Jan 8 2024, 08:21 AM
- - nprev   Agh. Serious anomaly. Hopefully it will be resolve...   Jan 8 2024, 04:15 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 8 2024, 08:15 AM) Agh....   Jan 8 2024, 04:53 PM
- - mcaplinger   Landing almost certainly off the table.   Jan 8 2024, 06:35 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 8 2024, 07:35 PM)...   Jan 8 2024, 10:14 PM
- - nogal   Astrobotic has been publishing news reports on the...   Jan 8 2024, 09:49 PM
- - Explorer1   The Vulcan took it to TLI, but they were planning ...   Jan 8 2024, 10:31 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   Update #6: "An ongoing propellant leak [...]...   Jan 9 2024, 08:05 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Thorsten Denk @ Jan 9 2024, 12:05 ...   Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 04:41 PM)...   Jan 9 2024, 06:55 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Jan 9 2024, 10:55 AM) ...   Jan 9 2024, 07:27 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 08:41 AM)...   Jan 9 2024, 11:01 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE This seems odd to me, since usually such a v...   Jan 12 2024, 02:34 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Jan 9 2024, 06:01 PM)...   Jan 14 2024, 06:09 PM
|- - Edomann   QUOTE (rlorenz @ Jan 14 2024, 06:09 PM) C...   Jan 29 2024, 04:58 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Edomann @ Jan 28 2024, 08:58 PM) I...   Jan 29 2024, 06:54 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   From the latest update from Astrobotics: QUOTE .....   Jan 9 2024, 10:29 PM
- - Explorer1   https://www.astrobotic.com/update-10-for-pe...ne-m...   Jan 10 2024, 05:45 PM
- - Phil Stooke   https://twitter.com/tony873004/status/174527475741...   Jan 11 2024, 07:32 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   > This tweet (or whatever you call it these day...   Jan 11 2024, 08:35 AM
- - marsbug   Jeff Foust reports that nine of the payloads are p...   Jan 11 2024, 06:44 PM
- - Explorer1   Great to see transparency from Astrobotic; Update ...   Jan 12 2024, 04:22 AM
- - Thorsten Denk   I wonder if they still have enough control to do m...   Jan 12 2024, 09:31 AM
- - Explorer1   Well, there's no functioning seismometers on t...   Jan 12 2024, 03:08 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Jan 12 2024, 04:08 PM)...   Jan 12 2024, 03:39 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Scott Tilley has an impact prediction: https://tw...   Jan 12 2024, 06:43 PM
- - Explorer1   Some (marginally) better news. QUOTE Peregrine ha...   Jan 12 2024, 07:56 PM
- - Greenish   Been thinking about ways to visualize the evolving...   Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM
|- - Greenish   In case anyone cares to not re-do the tabulation, ...   Jan 13 2024, 09:26 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Greenish @ Jan 13 2024, 09:14 PM) ...   Jan 14 2024, 01:16 AM
- - mcaplinger   Without a schematic of the propulsion system, it...   Jan 14 2024, 05:58 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   Latest update, very detailed and interesting: http...   Jan 15 2024, 12:30 PM
- - Thorsten Denk   "Peregrine appears to have reentered [Jan 18]...   Jan 19 2024, 08:57 AM
- - Explorer1   Some poignant video footage has been released, sep...   Jan 20 2024, 08:07 PM


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