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Size Comparism Of The Moons Of The Gas Planets, Moon Systems of the gas giants compared |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:10 AM
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A copyright recognizes any significant value added to an intellectual property.
In the case here, spaceffm put together some very nice comparison murals. But *if* the work of scaling the images so that they were in proper scale to each other was done by someone else (especially by someone who took out a copyright, not on the images, but on the work he did to adjust each image to the proper scale), and *then* spaceffm claimed that he did the work to accurately scale the images, he would be making a false claim. It would be trying to take credit for someone else's work -- work that the someone else spent enough time and energy on, and added enough value to the images' presentations by doing the scaling calculations and manipulating the images accordingly, that he felt the value he added was worthy of its own copyright. So, if spaceffm were to produce paper copies of these murals and sell them, or even if he were to insist on being credited if the murals were shown elsewhere on the Internet, the issue a copyright court would consider would be whether or not spaceffm had added any significant value to the images, as manipulated and copyrighted by Tayfun Oner. If spaceffm could prove that he did all the work to scale and manipulate all the images in his own murals, then he would win the suit. Just because Oner had made such scaled images doesn't preclude anyone else from doing it -- as long as they do the work and don't just use Oner's pre-scaled images without attribution. However, if all spaceffm did was re-arrange the elements of similar comparison murals made by Oner, without actually doing any of the scaling and image manipulation itself, then he would lose the suit. In fact, even if spaceffm did almost all of the scaling himself, if he used even *one* pre-scaled image taken from someone else's work and deliberately passed it off as his own work, he would lose the suit. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
I was referring to the image processing - coloring, reprojecting. A few I recognize as Oner's, a few as others. I agree about free distribution, with a few exceptions, but it just struck a nerve to take images that others had processed, even if he scaled them himself, give those who processed them no credit, and then claim copyright over the product.
Here are the instances in which I have asserted copyright claims in the past. First, when someone else posted, in unaltered form, one of my images and claimed to have done the work. I have made requests that have been honored to anomalist websites, when I see my images posted there, to get them removed. The only time I have ever threatened legal action (and I did get a lawyer who is a friend of mine to send a letter, which worked) was when an anomalist site posted my Phobos 2 images WITH credit, and claimed that I was doing work with the images to investigate the nature of alien spaceships and artifacts seen in them. I only involved the laywer because the site owner, who I won't name (I am not sure I still even have the name) refused to remove the references to me or my images. The reason I took this so seriously is that when dealing with old data and foreign data not found on the PDS, I have been fortunate in that scientists and archivists have been more than helpful in providing me with material - for example, Francis Graham's finding me the matrices to make the Pioneer-11 Io images. If my name was spread over the internet as being connected to the anomalists, I fear that scientists would be less willing to respond to my inquiries for data, which would greatly damage my work. But, other than that, I have never, even if I legally could, tried to stop others from using my images, even without credit. My whole purpose of doing the work is to resurrect images that (in the case of Soviet images) never reached the west in proper form, were lost among a myriad of other images, were processed decades ago and are in need of touchups, and occasionally a famous image that I think could be processed better. This is so that some of the many vistas of the Solar System can be shared by more people, not just those of us who obsessively process the data. And, therefore, my goal is to see it spread around as much as possible. My only concern is that it not be used by anomalists to distract people with their utter nonsense from the true wonders of the solar system. -------------------- |
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