“spirit” Cover On Aviation Week: 14 November 2005, Rocky Martian High: Spirit Takes Summit |
“spirit” Cover On Aviation Week: 14 November 2005, Rocky Martian High: Spirit Takes Summit |
Nov 14 2005, 04:57 AM
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“Spirit” Cover on Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine: 14 November 2005
Rocky Martian High: Spirit Takes the Summit “Spirit” at the Summit of Husband Hill appears as the Cover image for the 14 November 2005 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine. The highly detailed 6 page cover package, titled "Rocky Martian High", describes the dramatic flight operations of the JPL/Cornell team as Spirit completed work on a Martian mountaintop: see www.aviationweek.com. The cover photo of Spirit and 2 additional pictures inside (full widescreen view and hazcam of Hillary rock outcrop), were derived by an international team of Mars enthusiasts indicating how outside analysts can use the raw imagery data from the rovers available to everyone. Forum Members picture credit: Marco Di Lorenzo (dilo), Doug Ellison (djellison), Bernhard Braun (nirgal) and Kenneth Kremer (mars loon) View at this link: www.aviationweek.com |
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Dec 22 2005, 02:52 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14434 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
What I just can not believe is that New SCIENTIST... (I'll say that again..SCIENTIST) confused the phrase et al (used a dozen times on just about any science paper ever written) and made it into Marco's second sirname Etal.
That's bad enough - but to then put (sic) at the end, which basically says 'Yes, we know it looks odd that the guys name ends in Etal, but it's right, we checked, honestly' - is just SHOCKINGLY bad practice by whoever put it in there. I'm more upset by their utter stupidity then their failure to ask us & AW first. The answer would, of course, have been yes, but to screw it up so badly is shocking for what I thought was a good publication. Doug |
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Dec 23 2005, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 22 2005, 03:52 PM) What I just can not believe is that New SCIENTIST... (I'll say that again..SCIENTIST) confused the phrase et al (used a dozen times on just about any science paper ever written) and made it into Marco's second sirname Etal. That's bad enough - but to then put (sic) at the end, which basically says 'Yes, we know it looks odd that the guys name ends in Etal, but it's right, we checked, honestly' - is just SHOCKINGLY bad practice by whoever put it in there. I'm more upset by their utter stupidity then their failure to ask us & AW first. The answer would, of course, have been yes, but to screw it up so badly is shocking for what I thought was a good publication. Doug Doug (et al): I am wholly, entirely, completely, indivisibly, totally and utterly responsible for the (sic). It was put in to make the point that NS had, indeed, assumed that ETAL was a bit of a surname! And yes, it was obviously poor proof-reading that let it slip into the magazine, but there's been much worse in the past, I'm sure. FWIW, the page in question was much more in the territory of the graphics designers than the guys who write the editorial text, and it's a fact of life that the folk who do graphics are at heart only able to see text as black marks on paper - and the folk who write copy don't see graphics! So, on a page with a big picture and some text the proportion of schoolboy howlers dramatically rises. Still, at least the image wasn't reprinted by the Grauniad, which might have been *really* creative! I suspect that your deal with AW&ST included a reprint element, and that NS picked the image up as stock footage. Or, indeed, assumed that they were dealing with an attributable but non-copyright asserted image (as in NASA images - for example, the paintings which Don Davis did for Galileo etc). I'll scan the page in question and post it here shortly - if anybody wants a B I G version then e-mail me and I'll send you a high-res file. It's quite a coup getting published by NS, and I'm sure that they'll publish an errata if you ask - they regularly run a 'For the Record' spot on the Letters Page where they correct errors. NS (which is now shut until next year) may be contacted via a forms-based web page at: http://www.newscientist.com/contact.ns Or try the Editor: jeremy.webb@newscientist.com Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Dec 23 2005, 01:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Princeton, NJ, USA Member No.: 212 |
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 23 2005, 01:24 PM) Doug (et al): I am wholly, entirely, completely, indivisibly, totally and utterly responsible for the (sic). It was put in to make the point that NS had, indeed, assumed that ETAL was a bit of a surname! And yes, it was obviously poor proof-reading that let it slip into the magazine, but there's been much worse in the past, I'm sure. FWIW, the page in question was much more in the territory of the graphics designers than the guys who write the editorial text, and it's a fact of life that the folk who do graphics are at heart only able to see text as black marks on paper - and the folk who write copy don't see graphics! So, on a page with a big picture and some text the proportion of schoolboy howlers dramatically rises. Still, at least the image wasn't reprinted by the Grauniad, which might have been *really* creative! I suspect that your deal with AW&ST included a reprint element, and that NS picked the image up as stock footage. Or, indeed, assumed that they were dealing with an attributable but non-copyright asserted image (as in NASA images - for example, the paintings which Don Davis did for Galileo etc). I'll scan the page in question and post it here shortly - if anybody wants a B I G version then e-mail me and I'll send you a high-res file. It's quite a coup getting published by NS, and I'm sure that they'll publish an errata if you ask - they regularly run a 'For the Record' spot on the Letters Page where they correct errors. NS (which is now shut until next year) may be contacted via a forms-based web page at: http://www.newscientist.com/contact.ns Or try the Editor: jeremy.webb@newscientist.com Bob Shaw Hi Bob, thank you for the additional info here and earlier I have already emailed them at several addresses with no word back. thank you for the editors direct link. will send you an email for the hi res file. thank you ken |
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Dec 23 2005, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Here's a low-res scan of the NS page, plus a crop showing just the credits:
Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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