Parker Solar Probe, Take the Solar Plunge |
Parker Solar Probe, Take the Solar Plunge |
 Dec 25 2005, 12:33 AM
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Any serious plans to send a probe into the Sun to explore its depths as far as possible?
What would help a probe last as long as it could and how deep could it get? Could it even radio or laser out any data? What about a Sun skimmer? -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Dec 25 2005, 07:46 AM
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Well, there's always David Brin's solution. Use a laser to *refrigerate* the probe, and to provide braking thrust against the Sun's gravity.
The idea is to drain the thermal energy into a system that powers a very powerful, very HOT laser. This would be the *only* way to use a "radiator" to shed heat into the photosphere. A side benefit would be that such a laser would exert *significant* thrust, and it would be aimed at a target that it couldn't much hurt -- the Sun's surface. The catch, of course, is that we really don't have the technology to build such a hot laser, or to convert the heat we can't reflect away into power for the laser. Once we develop those technologies (if we ever do), then a solar probe is more feasible... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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ljk4-1 Parker Solar Probe Dec 25 2005, 12:33 AM
nprev I don't know, but my best guess would be <p... Dec 25 2005, 02:07 AM
JRehling Solar Probe was supposed to come within 3 solar ra... Dec 25 2005, 06:15 AM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (JRehling @ Dec 25 2005, 06:15 AM)Solar... Dec 25 2005, 08:24 AM nprev The only "practical" solution I can see ... Dec 25 2005, 08:38 AM Richard Trigaux Other ways to probe the Sun would be sending a las... Dec 25 2005, 08:36 AM Jyril QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 25 2005, 11:36 A... Dec 25 2005, 12:22 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (Jyril @ Dec 25 2005, 12:22 PM)The Gene... Dec 25 2005, 04:02 PM tty A lot of neutrinos from the interior of the Sun is... Dec 25 2005, 04:37 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (tty @ Dec 25 2005, 04:37 PM)A lot of n... Dec 25 2005, 05:57 PM BruceMoomaw Richard Trigaux, alas, is too optimistic about the... Dec 25 2005, 11:23 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 25 2005, 11:23 PM)Ri... Dec 26 2005, 09:27 AM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 26 2005, 04:27 A... Dec 26 2005, 06:03 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Dec 26 2005, 06:03 PM)Ma... Dec 26 2005, 08:52 PM antoniseb It would be possible to create a probe that could ... Dec 27 2005, 01:50 AM dvandorn QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 26 2005, 02:52 P... Dec 27 2005, 06:25 AM tty QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 27 2005, 08:25 AM)Absol... Dec 28 2005, 11:53 AM Bob Shaw (Sigh)
You're all missing the obvious way to ... Dec 28 2005, 12:05 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 28 2005, 01:05 PM)(Sigh... Dec 28 2005, 12:08 PM Holder of the Two Leashes QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 28 2005, 06:05 AM) ... Aug 8 2018, 01:57 PM punkboi QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Dec 26 2005, 02:27 A... Jan 6 2006, 05:51 PM edstrick Unfortunately, the Solar Probe mission, or whateve... Dec 26 2005, 11:12 AM BruceMoomaw The trouble is that we haven't as yet come up ... Dec 27 2005, 08:36 AM BlackMage Well, if one gets to think into the really long-ra... Dec 28 2005, 07:26 AM edstrick A limitless, though relatively small, source of en... Dec 28 2005, 12:30 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 28 2005, 12:30 PM)Consi... Dec 29 2005, 08:20 AM kwan3217 I recall a sci fi story from long ago about a mann... Dec 29 2005, 05:05 AM tty QUOTE (kwan3217 @ Dec 29 2005, 07:05 AM)1) Ca... Dec 29 2005, 06:38 PM Bob Shaw QUOTE (tty @ Dec 29 2005, 07:38 PM)I wonder i... Jan 6 2006, 11:06 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 6 2006, 06:06 PM)Freema... Jan 7 2006, 03:02 AM BruceMoomaw That story was Theodore Taylor's "The Wea... Dec 29 2005, 11:37 AM Richard Trigaux PINK FLOYD
SET THE CONTROL FOR THE HEAR... Dec 29 2005, 02:56 PM BruceMoomaw So THAT'S how they got so pink.
By the way, S... Dec 29 2005, 04:38 PM Bob Shaw Bruce:
Careful there Ted, or Crazy Dan might try ... Dec 29 2005, 04:45 PM lyford QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 29 2005, 08:45 AM)Bruce... Dec 29 2005, 06:29 PM Richard Trigaux QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 29 2005, 04:38 PM)..... Dec 29 2005, 05:53 PM PhilHorzempa The Solar Probe project is still alive. In a Repo... Jul 6 2007, 02:49 PM Pando http://solarprobe.gsfc.nasa.gov/ Jul 9 2007, 06:41 AM tedstryk If it actually gets funded, it should also give us... Jul 19 2007, 05:41 PM stevesliva QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jul 19 2007, 01:41 PM) ... Sep 20 2010, 06:05 AM Y Bar Ranch Hey, my first post here.
So my idea for a solar p... Jul 29 2007, 11:01 PM Geographer What is the highest level of albedo that's bee... Nov 8 2007, 04:18 PM JRehling From one reference on the web, I'm seeing that... Dec 11 2007, 08:23 AM scalbers QUOTE (Geographer @ Nov 8 2007, 05:18 PM)... Sep 19 2010, 08:57 PM stevesliva QUOTE (scalbers @ Sep 19 2010, 04:57 PM) ... Sep 20 2010, 05:52 AM ngunn Has anyone suggested using the phenomenon of total... Dec 11 2007, 11:42 AM ugordan Wouldn't a big glass prism be massive? Dec 11 2007, 11:49 AM ngunn Lots of little ones forming a scaly skin? A cloud ... Dec 11 2007, 11:57 AM Juramike Or how about ice crystals?
Could the probe squirt... Dec 11 2007, 12:17 PM jamescanvin I notice from reading this months BIS magazine (th... Dec 11 2007, 02:23 PM Juramike QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Dec 11 2007, 09:23 A... Dec 11 2007, 02:27 PM robspace54 I understand that Johns Hopkins University Applied... Feb 5 2008, 05:44 PM djellison Yeah - that was my series of (probably very illega... Feb 5 2008, 05:56 PM Paolo I have just received the author's copies of th... Feb 19 2008, 07:24 PM mps NASA Calls on APL to Send a Probe to the Sun
It s... May 5 2008, 09:32 AM RZero Nasa Plans to go to the Sun
Seems its becoming a ... Jun 12 2008, 08:33 AM mps More detailed technical information here:
Solar Pr... Jun 12 2008, 10:53 AM Drkskywxlt Solar Probe Plus has been given the green light to... Jul 7 2010, 04:58 PM Drkskywxlt It seems that the ESA Solar Orbiter mission (if se... Jul 27 2010, 05:46 PM Sunspot Cool
We can never have too many solar missions Jul 27 2010, 07:54 PM punkboi A new article on Solar Probe Plus... 5 science ins... Sep 3 2010, 12:39 AM stevesliva Actually only four instruments mentioned, but radi... Sep 3 2010, 03:45 AM illexsquid QUOTE (stevesliva @ Sep 2 2010, 08:45 PM)... Sep 21 2010, 07:22 AM Sunspot More on one of the instruments
http://www.spacere... Sep 30 2010, 10:55 PM mps Solar Orbiter is selected as ESA's first M-cla... Oct 5 2011, 05:51 PM Paolo selected again, you mean. I don't want to get ... Oct 5 2011, 05:55 PM stevesliva Solar Probe Plus mentioned in this interesting sol... Mar 8 2013, 09:56 PM Paolo ESA's Solar Orbiter has recently been delayed ... Dec 3 2013, 06:33 PM pitcapuozzo QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 3 2013, 08:33 PM) ESA... Apr 26 2015, 12:04 PM Jaro_in_Montreal Whatever happened to this sun-grazing spacecraft c... Dec 7 2013, 06:19 PM Paolo it's now known as the Solar Probe Plus, an app... Dec 7 2013, 06:38 PM centsworth_II Holy 2001-Space-Odyssey-caveman-thrown-bone-turnin... Feb 12 2014, 06:36 PM gndonald There is a user of the Orbiter Spaceflight simulat... Mar 1 2014, 12:09 PM Explorer1 New announcement tomorrow on Solar Probe Plus:
ht... May 30 2017, 08:53 PM algorimancer Looking over the details of this mission, and cont... Jun 1 2017, 09:15 PM Explorer1 Perhaps the heat makes ion engines prohibitive?
... Jun 1 2017, 09:50 PM Decepticon Curious will Parker Solar Probe also do Venus Scie... Jun 5 2017, 07:38 AM nprev Here's a link to the instrumentation descripti... Jun 5 2017, 05:46 PM JRehling It took me a while to track down the specs of WISP... Jun 6 2017, 09:36 PM scalbers I wonder if some high-phase angle images with such... Jun 6 2017, 11:59 PM JRehling WISPR wouldn't see color – by "white ligh... Jun 8 2017, 12:41 AM Explorer1 The launch has been delayed a few times to August ... Jul 26 2018, 03:51 PM Holder of the Two Leashes The time from launch to probe entry for Venera 3 c... Jul 26 2018, 07:08 PM JRehling Mariner 10 reached Venus in 94 days. I don't k... Aug 1 2018, 05:18 PM Holder of the Two Leashes Latest news is that the Venus flyby will be Octobe... Aug 1 2018, 01:43 PM Paolo Cassini Venus to Earth in 1999 was 55 days Aug 1 2018, 05:40 PM Keatah Well at least they are launching it at night! ... Aug 8 2018, 06:19 PM nprev Launch now set for 0753 GMT. Live coverage here.
... Aug 11 2018, 04:07 AM nprev T minus 10 min now. So far so good.
GO PARKER... Aug 11 2018, 07:42 AM kenny I believe New Horizons took about 9 hours, from la... Aug 13 2018, 11:02 AM Explorer1 According to Jonathan McDowell, it was a lot faste... Aug 13 2018, 12:19 PM Holder of the Two Leashes A very detailed update on Parker:
Early milestone... Aug 20 2018, 06:35 PM Paolo first images from the wide field camera:
Illuminat... Sep 19 2018, 07:11 PM nprev Bit surprised at the quality of these since I thou... Sep 20 2018, 04:26 AM hendric WISPR looks for plasma coming off the Sun, so it... Sep 20 2018, 02:56 PM Explorer1 QUOTE (hendric @ Sep 20 2018, 09:56 AM) M... Sep 20 2018, 03:35 PM hendric Maybe dust impacts could be detected via attitude ... Sep 25 2018, 02:42 PM Explorer1 Venus Flyby Complete! Oct 3 2018, 11:02 PM Steve G That's crazy fast. What was the next quickest ... Oct 4 2018, 03:18 AM |
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