Nh - The Launch Thread, Godspeed little one |
Nh - The Launch Thread, Godspeed little one |
 Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was time, with the Atlas V about to roll out - for a new thread for NH for the launch etc.
Someone asked over at the HZ just how NH can go so fast, this was my reply.... QUOTE How do you get a spacecraft to Jupiter in under a year? Easy. Make it very very light, and put it on a very very big rocket. The config of Atlas V rocket being used to launch NH (551 - 5m fairing, 5 solids, and one engine on the Centaur stage ) would typically put 8,670kg into GTO or 20,520 into LEO. New Horizons is 478kg, and it's Star 48B 3rd stage is 2,137kg - so instead of hauling 20 tons, this vehicle is hauling about 2.5 tons thus you get a HUGE velocity out of it. AND, once it's done that, you have the final kick of the 48B, 591 thousand kgs-s (thus accelerating is all a further 3.5 - 4km/s ball park speed, if my maths is right) At launch - the vehicle is 573,160kg. NH is 0.083% of it. Imagine the Apollo entry capsule on top of a Saturn V...tiny tiny tiny... that was 5,800 kg on a 3,038,500kg rocket - 0.191% - more than double that percentage of NH. The cutaway's are almost comical, with this tiny gold-clad box on an enormous vehicle. Basically - it's a LOT of rocket, and not a lot of payload. For comparison, look how much fuss was made of Stardust that entered so quickly. It took >16 hrs to get from the distance of the moon to Utah. NH makes that journey in 9 hours  One thing the NH mission is not short of, is superlatives. I'm not one for good luck charms (although I'll eat peanuts during a Martian EDL with the best of them), but this mission has been so long in coming, that it deserves every ounce of luck it can have - the best, most accurate launch possible, the cleanest checkout, and incident free cruise to Jupiter. Goodluck and Godspeed little one, we're with you every step of the way. Doug PS - Alan, you're a credit to your field, spending so much time answering questions and writing the PI Perspectives, it's been a hell of a journey! |
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Jan 17 2006, 04:12 PM
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Spaceflight Now.com
1607 GMT (11:07 a.m. EST) Winds at the pad have gusted up to 29 knots. The limit is 33 knots at launch time. Not so good news... -------------------- The scientist does not study nature because it is useful; he studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.
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Jan 17 2006, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 05:12 PM) Spaceflight Now.com 1607 GMT (11:07 a.m. EST) Winds at the pad have gusted up to 29 knots. The limit is 33 knots at launch time. Not so good news...  The clouds in the NASA TV feed are zipping along at a noticable clip but there doesn't seem to be any indication of worry from the NASA side ATM. |
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Jan 17 2006, 04:29 PM
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Ok, there are obviously some serious problems with the streaming videos. I get constant "buffering" on both WMV and RM streams.
Looks like major network congestion... grrrrr! And I was really looking forward to watching this live 
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djellison Nh - The Launch Thread Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
Toma B Atlas-5 with New Horizons is moving toward launch ... Jan 16 2006, 03:27 PM imran Yes, Godspeed indeed. The launch will be spectacu... Jan 16 2006, 03:28 PM Toma B On the way!!!
Jan 16 2006, 03:37 PM
helvick QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 04:37 PM)On the ... Jan 16 2006, 03:47 PM Toma B Rocket is in place....Yippeee!!! ... Jan 16 2006, 04:10 PM Myran 4-5 mph helvick? That was a humble start. Now its ... Jan 16 2006, 04:17 PM ljk4-1 01.12.06
J.D. Harrington
Headquarters, Washington... Jan 16 2006, 04:35 PM odave That's quite an inspiring sight. Wunderground... Jan 16 2006, 05:40 PM Analyst Goodluck and sunny weather tomorrow. It's been... Jan 16 2006, 05:55 PM punkboi QUOTE (Analyst @ Jan 16 2006, 10:55 AM)Btw, i... Jan 16 2006, 06:48 PM imran Check Spaceflight Now for latest mission updates.
... Jan 16 2006, 06:54 PM Toma B It is now exactly T-24 hours until liftoff………..if ... Jan 16 2006, 06:24 PM elakdawalla I'm checking out the really wonderful Expendab... Jan 16 2006, 06:47 PM Toma B NEW IMAGES at Spaceflightnow.com
http://www... Jan 16 2006, 07:02 PM imran QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 07:02 PM)NEW IMA... Jan 16 2006, 07:08 PM odave QUOTE (imran @ Jan 16 2006, 02:08 PM)Awesome ... Jan 16 2006, 07:33 PM BPCooper QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 03:02 PM)NEW IMA... Jan 17 2006, 03:57 PM Toma B QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 17 2006, 06:57 PM)Go At... Jan 17 2006, 04:01 PM Toma B Am I seeing Carolin Porco (...Cassini...) with New... Jan 16 2006, 07:16 PM ToSeek QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 07:16 PM)Am I se... Jan 16 2006, 07:27 PM Toma B The "go" has been given to the launch te... Jan 16 2006, 07:56 PM Sunspot I'm almost too nervous to watch these launches... Jan 16 2006, 07:59 PM punkboi QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 16 2006, 12:59 PM)I... Jan 16 2006, 08:21 PM djellison That's CP.
Doug Jan 16 2006, 08:20 PM Toma B ...and finally HI-RES pictures at KSC...
New Horiz... Jan 16 2006, 08:21 PM nprev QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 16 2006, 01:21 PM)...and ... Jan 16 2006, 10:00 PM yaohua2000 Predict trajectory:
http://iota.jhuapl.edu/nh116.... Jan 16 2006, 08:42 PM punkboi "The first stage fuel tank is now about half ... Jan 16 2006, 08:50 PM deglr6328 dumb ? time. Why is the first stage copper clad? Jan 16 2006, 10:16 PM Airbag QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Jan 16 2006, 06:16 PM)dumb... Jan 16 2006, 11:18 PM MahFL The first stage tank is Copper Anodised Aluminium.... Jan 16 2006, 11:41 PM mchan QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 16 2006, 03:41 PM)The firs... Jan 17 2006, 12:07 AM mcaplinger QUOTE (mchan @ Jan 16 2006, 04:07 PM)"Co... Jan 17 2006, 12:15 AM mars loon To Pluto and BEYOND !!!
at last ... Jan 17 2006, 12:28 AM djellison I think it just LOOKS like it's copper clad. i... Jan 16 2006, 10:28 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 02:28 PM)I th... Jan 16 2006, 10:45 PM helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 11:28 PM)I th... Jan 16 2006, 10:56 PM mchan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 16 2006, 07:08 AM)How ... Jan 16 2006, 10:58 PM djellison That was the actual line I quoted from the previou... Jan 16 2006, 11:02 PM Tesheiner Here is NH on top of the booster.
Good luck... Jan 17 2006, 10:24 AM edstrick Uh....
Would somebody explain to me how they hav... Jan 17 2006, 11:21 AM MahFL This link has some good info on the Atlas. I may h... Jan 17 2006, 11:45 AM djellison QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 17 2006, 11:21 AM)Uh...... Jan 17 2006, 11:50 AM ugordan QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 17 2006, 12:21 PM)Would... Jan 17 2006, 11:54 AM Bill Harris Good cut-away image, Tesheiner. That puts the sp... Jan 17 2006, 02:12 PM ugordan The thrust vectors do add up differently, but as l... Jan 17 2006, 02:26 PM Toma B QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 05:26 PM)What e... Jan 17 2006, 02:44 PM punkboi QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 07:44 AM)The Atl... Jan 17 2006, 02:46 PM ugordan QUOTE (punkboi @ Jan 17 2006, 03:46 PM)Err, w... Jan 17 2006, 02:50 PM djellison http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&hs=iE...+in+m... Jan 17 2006, 02:49 PM ugordan QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 03:49 PM)Goog... Jan 17 2006, 02:52 PM odave QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 09:49 AM)Goog... Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM chris I may or may not be able to watch the launch live ... Jan 17 2006, 02:53 PM Toma B There is some obvious weather change today at KSC.... Jan 17 2006, 02:57 PM Toma B Spaceflightnow.com
1445 GMT (9:45 a.m. EST)
NASA i... Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM yaohua2000 Who knows any NASA TV mirrors, I can only get 34Kb... Jan 17 2006, 03:00 PM chris QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 03:00 PM)Who... Jan 17 2006, 03:08 PM AstronomíaOnline.com I'm following Mike Griffin's New Horizons ... Jan 17 2006, 03:11 PM djellison QUOTE (AstronomíaOnline.com @ Jan 17 2006, 03... Jan 17 2006, 03:32 PM helvick QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 17 2006, 04:32 PM)Kudo... Jan 17 2006, 03:44 PM ljk4-1 QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 17 2006, 10:44 AM)There ... Jan 17 2006, 03:49 PM ugordan QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 04:00 PM)Who... Jan 17 2006, 03:12 PM Toma B When will they start pumping LOX and LH into rocke... Jan 17 2006, 03:33 PM ugordan QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 04:33 PM)When wi... Jan 17 2006, 03:36 PM djellison Good luck to you as well Ben - we're counting ... Jan 17 2006, 04:02 PM helvick QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 05:29 PM)Ok, th... Jan 17 2006, 04:44 PM ugordan QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 17 2006, 05:44 PM)No con... Jan 17 2006, 04:48 PM odave QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 11:29 AM)And I ... Jan 17 2006, 04:56 PM ugordan QUOTE (odave @ Jan 17 2006, 05:56 PM)No strea... Jan 17 2006, 05:09 PM MahFL No streaming here either, just refreshing webcam p... Jan 17 2006, 05:11 PM Toma B Cryogenic oxidizer is being filled into Centaur an... Jan 17 2006, 04:50 PM MahFL QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 04:50 PM)Cryogen... Jan 17 2006, 04:53 PM Jeff7 QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 17 2006, 11:53 AM)You mean... Jan 17 2006, 04:54 PM JRehling Little table of when each world got its first laun... Jan 17 2006, 04:59 PM PhilCo126 Yes TomaB that's Dr Carolyn PORCO for sure:
ht... Jan 17 2006, 05:00 PM Toma B QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 08:00 PM)Yes ... Jan 17 2006, 05:05 PM odave Thanks for the link - better than nothing! Jan 17 2006, 05:14 PM PhilCo126 Waiting for a Meteo report... At Minus 1 Hour ... ... Jan 17 2006, 05:17 PM Toma B T-1hour...
Looks sunny...
Jan 17 2006, 05:24 PM PhilCo126 Pitty Dr Clyde TOMBAUGH can't see this but I b... Jan 17 2006, 05:31 PM lyford For those "at work" or with video player... Jan 17 2006, 05:45 PM MahFL Border line winds.
Jan 17 2006, 05:54 PM MahFL Winds seems to be dropping bit Jan 17 2006, 05:55 PM Toma B QUOTE (MahFL @ Jan 17 2006, 08:55 PM)Winds se... Jan 17 2006, 06:01 PM MahFL updated: 12:46 PM EST on January 17, 2006
Observed... Jan 17 2006, 06:03 PM ljk4-1 NEWSALERT: Tuesday, January 17, 2005 @ 1658 GMT
... Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM MahFL Didn't they have a similar problem with the MR... Jan 17 2006, 06:05 PM PhilCo126 Winds 25 knots ... gusts 33 knots
But there's ... Jan 17 2006, 05:58 PM Toma B There was only ONE gust of wind greater than 33 kn... Jan 17 2006, 06:08 PM MahFL Engineers have determined the first stage liquid o... Jan 17 2006, 06:13 PM MahFL NEW LAUNCH TIME! Liftoff has been delayed to 1... Jan 17 2006, 06:15 PM jamescanvin Who scheduled this for 5am?
I'm going to have... Jan 17 2006, 06:11 PM PhilCo126 Still exciting though ... T-4 minutes ... built-in... Jan 17 2006, 06:11 PM Toma B QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 09:11 PM)Stil... Jan 17 2006, 06:13 PM Rakhir NEW LAUNCH TIME! Liftoff has being delayed to ... Jan 17 2006, 06:14 PM Jeff7 QUOTE (Rakhir @ Jan 17 2006, 01:14 PM)NEW LAU... Jan 17 2006, 06:16 PM |
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