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Pioneer Spacecraft First Into The Asteroid Belt
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post Jan 10 2006, 05:35 PM
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Launch Pioneer 10 ( 02 March 1972 )
Pioneer 10 entered the Asteroidbelt in July 1972 and emerged in February 1973 ... passing safely as we know ... during 7 months ... Jupiter Flyby in November 1973.
So we had Jovian flyby 7 months after passing Asteroid belt!
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Launch Pioneer 11 ( 05 April 1973 )
Pioneer 11 entered the Asteroidbelt in March 1974 and emerged in ??? ( September 1974 ) ... encountered Jupiter in December 1974.
Already 3 months after it cleared the Asteroid belt ? blink.gif
( went on for flyby of Saturn in August 1979 )

Does someone have exact dates for both Pioneers' milestones ?
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edstrick
post Jan 11 2006, 08:47 AM
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http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/InnerPlot.html
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/InnerPlot2.html
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/OuterPlot.html

linked to from
http://pdssbn.astro.umd.edu/outreach/location.html
Show plots of more or less all natural objects in the solar system, color coded as to type.

The asteroid belt is clearly defined by an instantaneous snapshot as a torus with a rather well defined inner edge a little way outside Mars orbit and a more diffuse outer edge at about 2/3 the radius of Jupiter's orbit. The presence of additional scattered objects like near-earth asteroids <in red>, asteroids in (I think) 3/2 jupiter resonant orbits <3 lobes of green dots beyond the outer belt edge out to Jupiter's orbit> and Trojan asteroids <blue bananna shaped clusters of dots on jupiter's orbit -- jupiter is at about 8 o'clock>, does not change that there is a real belt that's well defined.

BUT: The objects in the belt are so small and the belt is so big, and vertically extended into a donut, not a flat disk, that anywhere at random in the belt, you'd usually only see a few not very bright stars that are asteroids in the distance.

Mariner 6 and 7 did fast flybys of Mars in 69, as the Atlas Centaur could launch considerably heavier spacecraft than the Mariners, and they got a modest gravity assist from the posigrade flyby of Mars. I don't have an orbital plot at hand, but they undoubtably went a short ways into the inner belt.
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post Jan 25 2006, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 11 2006, 10:47 AM)


I presume that the "black hole" in the Kuiper belt to the right of Pluto indicates the direction where the Milky Way makes observations difficult?

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- PhilCo126   Pioneer Spacecraft First Into The Asteroid Belt   Jan 10 2006, 05:35 PM
- - Toma B   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 10 2006, 08:35 PM)Does...   Jan 10 2006, 06:02 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   What about that iron manhole cover in the nuclear ...   Jan 10 2006, 06:02 PM
- - PhilCo126   Flight time to the Asteroid belt varies for both P...   Jan 10 2006, 06:07 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 10 2006, 09:07 PM)Aste...   Jan 10 2006, 06:15 PM
- - PhilCo126   You're right Toma, some drawings use the Torus...   Jan 10 2006, 06:21 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Some of the Mars flyby missions went further from ...   Jan 10 2006, 07:33 PM
- - PhilCo126   Interesting remark Bob ... but did some of the ear...   Jan 10 2006, 07:48 PM
- - edstrick   http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/InnerPlot.htm...   Jan 11 2006, 08:47 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   I knew about Mariners 6 and 7, but did the rest ju...   Jan 11 2006, 12:08 PM
||- - ljk4-1   If Pioneer 11 had been sent to Uranus, what do you...   Jan 24 2006, 10:11 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 24 2006, 11:11 PM)If...   Jan 25 2006, 11:27 AM
||- - Planet X   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 25 2006, 05:27 AM)I don...   Jan 25 2006, 07:36 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (Planet X @ Jan 25 2006, 08:36 PM)I...   Jan 25 2006, 10:33 PM
||- - tedstryk   It could have gone to Uranus and Neptune, but for ...   May 31 2006, 07:05 PM
||- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 31 2006, 07:05 PM) ...   May 31 2006, 11:31 PM
||- - Planet X   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 31 2006, 01:05 PM) ...   Sep 6 2010, 01:10 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 11 2006, 10:47 AM)http:...   Jan 25 2006, 07:07 PM
|- - Planet X   On a bizzare side note, I have an old almanac that...   Jan 25 2006, 08:00 PM
- - ljk4-1   You know that "model" of the Pioneer 10-...   May 30 2006, 05:48 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yep -- that's the backup. NASA briefly consid...   May 31 2006, 06:32 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 31 2006, 01:32 A...   May 31 2006, 11:26 AM
|- - odave   I think he was thinking more along the lines of ...   May 31 2006, 01:26 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (dvandorn @ May 31 2006, 04:26 AM) ...   May 31 2006, 10:26 PM
- - Astrophil   What odave said, and - Nothing beside remains:...   May 31 2006, 01:29 PM


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