Home Plate Speculations, Get it in now, before we know the truth! |
Home Plate Speculations, Get it in now, before we know the truth! |
Jan 25 2006, 04:10 PM
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Down in the Front Page Stories board, Phillip asked what all of us UMSF types think Home Plate might be made of and how it was formed. He actually wants Jim Bell's speculations, but asked for UMSF's speculations, as well.
Since we're getting close to getting there, it's time for any of your uninformed speculations out there to be recorded for all posterity... I posted the following in that thread, but it really belongs here, so I'm reposting it here and inviting discussion. I figure that a lot of us don't bother to read the boards we don't stay actively involved with, so for all of you, this is new. Otherwise, I apologize for the repetitiion! Look at the vertically-exaggerated image posted here. Home Plate seems very obviously, in this stretched image, to be the remnant of an impact crater. There are several impact crater remnants in the inner basin, here. Each seems to have been formed in a surface that was a good many meters higher than the present surface -- those missing several meters have been deflated from this terrain, by some process, leaving the shocked "pedestal" remnants of the deeper cratering forms. Remember, when you make an impact crater, you don't just affect the surface. The disruption caused by the cratering event goes well under the surface, consisting of impact melt (if the impact is energetic enough) and shocked, brecciated rocks. The crater remnants we're seeing on the surface look like the brecciated and shocked rocks that were originally created in a bowl-shaped lining beneath this cluster of impact craters. I can see traces of at least five different craters within the inner basin, here. (The ridge of rock Spirit is passing right now is, in fact, a small crater remnant.) As for Home Plate, it sits within the largest and most well-defined of these crater remnants. Maybe such layers were exhumed in *all* of the craters here, and have since been completely eroded away -- but that doesn't seem right. We have traces of several craters, and in only one of them do we see any trace of this lighter-colored material. I'd have to think that either the impact target composition was different where the Home Plate impact occurred -- which seems a little unlikely when you consider some of these impacts are only a few tens of meters apart -- or that some other substance was deposited in Home Plate crater that wasn't deposited in the other craters. (Or that has been completely deflated from the other craters, if it ever existed there.) So, logic *seems* to point towards post-cratering material deposition accounting for the light-rock ring. Personally, I think it could have been water deposition. Home Plate could have been a puddle that was filled and dried thousands of times (maybe with an internal artesian spring) that resulted in aqueous transport and deposition. Or, it could have just been a good wind trap and it trapped a lot of light-colored dust. Hard to say. I'm not only interested in the light-rock ring's composition, I'm getting very curious about the erosion process that deflated the original surface. Could aeolian erosion have deflated *that* much surface, even over a few billion years? Do we need to postulate aqueous erosion, or even glacial erosion? Maybe the specific composition and erosion patterns we see on the light-rock ring will help us puzzle that out. -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Jan 30 2006, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE CosmicRocker said: I wasn't expecting to see the basin basalt lapping up into this area, but maybe the "froth on the broth" did. If you had a large glass of beer (or a small one, for that matter), the bubbles would rise to the top, would they not? Yes froth ends up on top, in volcanism its the material we call pumice. But I dont think homeplate is volcanic, but agree with those who have suggested it might a crater. A year have passed after I first suggested it here, yet I still think it is ice that have altered the terrrain, scraping off the crater wall and created the feature we see here. So if this had been on Earth I would expect some of the material in Homeplate to be shocked quartz, now it might be something different, lets wait for a closer inspection. |
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Jan 30 2006, 02:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (Myran @ Jan 30 2006, 12:51 PM) Yes froth ends up on top, in volcanism its the material we call pumice. But I dont think homeplate is volcanic, but agree with those who have suggested it might a crater. A year have passed after I first suggested it here, yet I still think it is ice that have altered the terrrain, scraping off the crater wall and created the feature we see here. So if this had been on Earth I would expect some of the material in Homeplate to be shocked quartz, now it might be something different, lets wait for a closer inspection. The obliquity of Mars varies radically over time; polar areas currently support landcapes covered with frozen CO2, which is a sink for much of the atmospheric mass of the planet. So what happens to the landforms underneath the mantle of CO2 (and water) snow? We've seen more-or-less current erosion in north-facing crater walls from orbit, but what happens in flattish areas? Could HP have been eroded during a different climatic period caused by polar wandering etc? Anyone got any thoughts on such processes, and how they might refer to the landforms we see today from the MER images? Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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