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deglr6328
post Oct 14 2005, 05:01 AM
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How much cryogen does Spitzer have remaining in its dewar? Do they know, or are they just waiting to see a temperature rise after complete boil-off? Can't find much info on the website.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE (hendric @ Nov 10 2005, 10:29 PM)
Will Spitzer be useful once the Helium runs out?
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That's an interesting thought. If it ends up equilibrating at 30-40K after He boiloff I could imagine it still getting some useful data from the shorter wavelength IRAC sensors at ~3-5 microns. I should think that the noise wouldn't be too high to prevent some imaging in that band. hmmm. But then this is barely above the range of the Hubble NICMOS and you'd have the question of whether or not it would be economically worth it. (well, assuming that Hubble is still operating of course)

What I don't get is if it has such an incredibly low boiloff rate to begin with (something like a few milliliters per hour) why wouldn't they look at attaching something like this to reliquefy some of the helium? I would think that even with a modest investment in power from larger solar arrays (say.... 1 KW) you could easily double the mission lifetime by reducing the boiloff rate, if not eliminating it completely.
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:15 PM
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Spitzer Space Telescope article in December, 2005 issue of National Geographic Magazine.

There's a lot hiding in the universe's dark corners. Interstellar dust clouds and inky stretches of deep space can appear dull to ordinary telescopes. But to a car-size telescope 26 million miles (42 million kilometers) from Earth, they are alive with light—infrared light, or heat rays. Since its launch in August 2003, says Robert Kennicutt, an astronomer at the University of Arizona, NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope "has opened up half the universe to us."

In the process, it has exposed cosmic birthplaces. Stars take shape in clouds of gas and dust, and planets emerge in disks of debris around new stars. Early galaxies are also swathed in dust. Little visible light gets out, but these objects still emit heat—and infrared.

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/051...ure5/index.html


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post Jan 16 2006, 08:23 PM
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Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0511358

From: William T. Reach [view email]

Date (v1): Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:32:59 GMT (59kb)
Date (revised v2): Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:43:56 GMT (0kb,I)
Date (revised v3): Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:57:35 GMT (0kb,I)
Date (revised v4): Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:04:39 GMT (59kb)

The Dust cloud around the White Dwarf G 29-38

Authors: William T. Reach, Marc J. Kuchner, Ted von Hippel, Adam Burrows, Fergal Mullally, Mukremin Kilic, D. E. Winget

Comments: accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal Letters

Journal-ref: 2005, Astrophysical Journal Letters, volume 635, page L161

We present new observations of the white dwarf G 29-38 with the camera (4.5 and 8 microns), photometer (24 microns), and spectrograph (5.5-14 microns) of the Spitzer Space Telescope. This star has an exceptionally large infrared excess amounting to 3% of the bolometric luminosity. The spectral energy distribution has a continuum peak around 4.5 micros and a 9-11 micron emission feature 1.25 times brighter than the continuum. A mixture of amorphous olivine and a small amount of forsterite in an emitting region 1-5 Rsun from the star can reproduce the shape of the 9-11 micron feature. The spectral energy distribution also appears to require amorphous carbon to explain the hot continuum. Our new measurements support the idea that a relatively recent disruption of a comet or asteroid created the cloud.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0511358


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and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

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post Jan 24 2006, 07:15 PM
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Astrophysics, abstract
astro-ph/0601495

From: Patrice Bouchet J.. [view email]

Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 01:45:09 GMT (761kb)

SN 1987A After 18 Years: Mid-Infrared GEMINI and SPITZER Observations of the Remnant

Authors: Patrice Bouchet, Eli Dwek, I. John Danziger, Richard G. Arendt, I. James M. De Buizer, Sangwook Park, Nicholas B. Suntzeff, Robert P. Kirshner, Peter Challis

Comments: 23 pages; 3 tables; 12 figures (Fig.2, Fig.4, and Fig.7 missing because too big; Fig.14 is provisory); submitted to ApJ January 2006

We present high resolution 11.7 and 18.3um mid-IR images of SN 1987A obtained on day 6526 with T-ReCS attached to the Gemini telescope. The 11.7um flux has increased significantly since our last observations on day 6067. The images clearly show that all the emission arises from the equatorial ring (ER). Spectra obtained with Spitzer, on day 6184 with MIPS at 24um, on day 6130 with IRAC in the 3.6-8um region, and on day 6190 with IRS in the 12-37um region show that the emission consists of thermal emission from silicate dust that condensed out in the red giant wind of the progenitor star. The dust temperature is ~166K, and the emitting dust mass is ~2.6 x 10-6 Msun. Lines of [Ne II]12.82um and [Ne III]15.56um are clearly present, as well as a weak [Si II]34.8um line. We also detect two lines near 26um which we tentatively ascribe to [Fe II]25.99um and [O IV]25.91um. Comparison of the Gemini 11.7um image with X-ray images from Chandra, UV-optical images from HST, and radio synchrotron images obtained by the ATCA show generally good correlation of the images across all wavelengths. Because of the limited resolution of the mid-IR images we cannot uniquely determine the location or heating mechanism of the dust giving rise to the emission. The dust could be collisionally heated by the X-ray emitting plasma, providing a unique diagnostic of plasma conditions. Alternatively, the dust could be radiatively heated in the dense UV-optical knots that are overrun by the advancing supernova blast wave. In either case the dust-to-gas mass ratio in the circumstellar medium around the supernova is significantly lower than that in the general ISM of the LMC, suggesting either a low condensation efficiency in the wind of the progenitor star, or the efficient destruction of the dust by the SN blast wave.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0601495


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and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 30 2006, 07:13 PM
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Paper: astro-ph/0601633

Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:44:00 GMT (226kb)

Title: Spectacular Spitzer images of the Trifid Nebula: Protostars in a young,
massive-star-forming region

Authors: J. Rho, W. T. Reach (Spitzer Science Center/CalTech), B. Lefloch
(Laboratoire d'Astrophysique, Observatoire de Grenoble) and G. Fazio
(Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics)

Comments: Accepted for publication in ApJ. Full resolution images are available
at http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rho/
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Spitzer IRAC and MIPS images of the Trifid Nebula (M20) reveal its
spectacular appearance in infrared light, highlighting the nebula's special
evolutionary stage. The images feature recently-formed massive protostars and
numerous young stellar objects, and a single O star that illuminates the
surrounding molecular cloud from which it formed, and unveil large-scale,
filamentary dark clouds. The hot dust grains show contrasting infrared colors
in shells, arcs, bow-shocks and dark cores. Multiple protostars are detected in
the infrared, within the cold dust cores of TC3 and TC4, which were previously
defined as Class 0. The cold dust continuum cores of TC1 and TC2 contain only
one protostar each. The Spitzer color-color diagram allowed us to identify ~160
young stellar objects and classify them into different evolutionary stages. The
diagram also revealed a unique group of YSOs which are bright at 24 micron but
have the spectral energy distribution peaking at 5-8 micron. Despite
expectation that Class 0 sources would be "starless" cores, the Spitzer images,
with unprecedented sensitivity, uncover mid-infrared emission from these Class
0 protostars. The mid-infrared detections of Class 0 protostars show that the
emission escapes the dense, cold envelope of young protostars. The mid-infrared
emission of the protostars can be fit by two temperatures of 150 and 400 K; the
hot core region is probably optically thin in the mid-infrared regime, and the
size of hot core is much smaller than that of the cold envelope. The presence
of multiple protostars within the cold cores of Class 0 objects implies that
clustering occurs at this early stage of star formation. The TC3 cluster shows
that the most massive star is located at the center of the cluster and at the
bottom of the gravitational-potential well.

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and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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- - deglr6328   mmmnah same temp I think. Superfluid He at ~1.5K. ...   Nov 10 2005, 10:11 AM
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|- - ljk4-1   Spitzer Space Telescope article in December, 2005 ...   Dec 5 2005, 05:15 PM
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