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Shaka
post Feb 5 2006, 06:46 PM
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Hope no one minds, but I felt we have to have a new topic, right from the start, as a compendium of all the Factual Observations on this incredible structure...this Mother Ship from another world...this...(who said Burgess Shale? I laughed at that at the time. blink.gif ) Who will start us off with a detailed description of what we see before us TODAY February 5, 2006 - Super Sunday.
(I'll be running from game to Exploratorium all afternoon! biggrin.gif


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aldo12xu
post Feb 8 2006, 08:13 PM
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I think we're looking at strata that has been tilted through meteorite impact. The stereo images below show the bedding planes to be dipping inward at an apparent angle of at least 20 degrees, best seen in the more erosion resistant layers sticking up above the outcrop in the top right. That implies these rocks were present before the meteorite impact.

The fine laminations are not inconsistant with wind deposition and, in fact, where cross-bedding is visible, it is planar stratified, displaying none of the festoon laminations associated with flowing water. So my guess is that these are wind derived sediments. And that is also what the layering at Burns Hill is interpreted as.

I think that's about all we can say for now until we get some geochemistry data.

Left: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2364L7M1.JPG
Right: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all...00P2364R1M1.JPG


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post Feb 8 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (aldo12xu @ Feb 8 2006, 03:13 PM)
I think we're looking at strata that has been tilted through meteorite impact.  The stereo images below show the bedding planes to be dipping inward at an apparent angle of at least 20 degrees, best seen in the more erosion resistant layers sticking up above the outcrop in the top right.  That implies these rocks were present before the meteorite impact.


I thought the area Spirit landed in was covered in basalt, indicating volcanic activity.

Of course who is to say it could not be a combination of both impacts and volcanoes?


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post Feb 8 2006, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 8 2006, 08:58 PM)
I thought the area Spirit landed in was covered in basalt, indicating volcanic activity. 

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The Columbia Hills are older than the basaltic flows covering most of Gusev Crater.

Some of the rocks within Columbia Hills are interpreted to be clastic (eg. Peace may be a basaltic sandstone) and pyroclastic (eg. Wishtone may be a tuff) in origin. These may represent the basement rocks that were present before the Gusev impact event. With the impact event, these basement rocks were thrown up, tilted and broken up, creating brecciated rocks like Voltaire. All these units were subsequently cut by dikes, represented by basaltic rocks like Backstay and Cherry Bomb.

The plains basalts on which Spirit touched down were emplaced some time later.

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- Shaka   Home, Sweet Home   Feb 5 2006, 06:46 PM
- - Shaka   O.K. We're there, and we might as well start a...   Feb 5 2006, 09:44 PM
- - Burmese   Ok, the 'Going to Home Plate' thread is ge...   Feb 6 2006, 07:02 PM
- - Mongo   We already have a new thread about the arrival at ...   Feb 6 2006, 07:12 PM
- - Burmese   Oops, sorry, didn't spot that one!   Feb 6 2006, 07:14 PM
- - mhoward   Check out the view out "to sea", as it w...   Feb 6 2006, 07:15 PM
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- - Burmese   And the atmosphere is clearing a bit, I think!   Feb 6 2006, 07:25 PM
- - gpurcell   The granular lower level intrigues me. Could be a...   Feb 6 2006, 07:44 PM
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|- - Nirgal   hand-colorized Sol 744 "Home Plate" pano...   Feb 6 2006, 10:46 PM
||- - mars loon   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Feb 6 2006, 10:46 PM)hand-col...   Feb 6 2006, 11:04 PM
||- - Steve   QUOTE (mars loon @ Feb 6 2006, 11:04 PM)Bernh...   Feb 6 2006, 11:17 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Feb 6 2006, 09:21 PM) I h...   Feb 6 2006, 11:16 PM
- - RNeuhaus   I look forward in hearing from JPL's activity ...   Feb 7 2006, 01:40 AM
- - Sunspot   They need to put the MI on the rock in the top lef...   Feb 7 2006, 01:52 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 6 2006, 08:52 PM)They ne...   Feb 7 2006, 01:58 AM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE The shards of shattered rock need not indica...   Feb 7 2006, 01:55 AM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Feb 6 2006, 03:55 PM)The...   Feb 7 2006, 03:22 AM
- - Sunspot   Yep...thats the one. Also Spirit would be in a gr...   Feb 7 2006, 02:05 AM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 6 2006, 04:05 PM)Yep...t...   Feb 7 2006, 02:56 AM
- - ddeerrff   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Feb 6 2006, 08:52 PM)They ne...   Feb 7 2006, 02:59 AM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (ddeerrff @ Feb 6 2006, 04:59 PM)You me...   Feb 7 2006, 03:25 AM
- - ilbasso   That "laminated fallen rock" almost look...   Feb 7 2006, 03:00 AM
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||- - dilo   QUOTE (Shaka @ Feb 7 2006, 08:35 PM)  Is...   Feb 7 2006, 08:54 PM
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|- - Shaka   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Feb 7 2006, 10:46 AM)latest L...   Feb 7 2006, 11:29 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Shaka @ Feb 7 2006, 11:29 PM)Rats, no ...   Feb 8 2006, 08:17 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   Terrific pictures, abalone! Thanks. QUOTE (d...   Feb 8 2006, 06:05 PM
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