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jamescanvin
post May 2 2005, 01:31 AM
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Just read this interesting article about LRO

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/28apr_lro.htm

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"This is the first in a string of missions," says Gordon Chin, project scientist for LRO at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "More robots will follow, about one per year, leading up to manned flight" no later than 2020."


One per Year? Is this just wishful thinking or have any tentitve plans been mentioned for follow up missions after LRO? If the next one is going to be 2009/10 then I guess some desisions about it will have to be made fairly soon.

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Phil Stooke
post Feb 9 2006, 02:46 AM
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Alex, you can't really say that Clementine 'resolved' the Apollo sampling sites - which in effect are only as big as the scoop or the rock which was picked up. What you can say is that we know which Clementine UVVIS pixel the sampling site is in. So the multispectral characteristics of that pixel can be described and searched for elsewhere.

My LPSC abstract (print-only, as I can't be there - look at the moon section under 'print-only) discusses this topic.

Here's an example. This is the Luna 24 landing area. If L24 was 10 km off its predicted location it could lie on the higher albedo unit at lower left or on Fahrenheit ejecta, or on a mare ridge (though that's not likely to differ chemically from its surroundings). THe grid is 0.25 degrees. The image is from the Apollo 15 panoramic camera.

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post Feb 9 2006, 09:25 AM
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Phil:

At least with the later Apollo flights and the Soviet rovers there's the prospect of seeing an albedo difference resulting from the passage of the vehicle, which may lead to some accurate LRO camera pointing (obviously not really a problem with regard to Apollo sites, which are well known, but potentially a method of finding the Lunokhods). After all, look at MGS and the MER tracks - I doubt if a mere forty years of space weathering will have wiped out the tracks on the Moon!

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- jamescanvin   LRO development   May 2 2005, 01:31 AM
- - tedstryk   If they follow through with it, it will be really ...   May 2 2005, 01:35 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Judging from what I've read: (1) There will ...   May 2 2005, 08:01 PM
|- - tedstryk   That would relate strangely to New Frontiers.   May 2 2005, 11:04 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 2 2005, 01:01 PM)Jud...   May 3 2005, 04:53 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, you know, Bush has already blindfolded himse...   May 4 2005, 12:16 AM
- - babakm   New article on LRO: http://science.nasa.gov/headl...   Jul 12 2005, 01:59 PM
|- - SFJCody   LROC site up: http://www.msss.com/lro/lroc/index...   Sep 4 2005, 04:10 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Sep 4 2005, 04:10 PM)LROC si...   Sep 7 2005, 01:05 AM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 7 2005, 03:05 AM)Humm, 0.5 ...   Oct 18 2005, 07:05 AM
|- - ljk4-1   http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/ind...8980....   Jan 3 2006, 04:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Ominous indication tonight that LRO may be about t...   Sep 16 2005, 05:32 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Stop the presses! No sooner did I write that ...   Sep 16 2005, 05:36 AM
- - edstrick   Somebody said, yesterday -?on another thread?- tha...   Sep 16 2005, 07:11 AM
- - Redstone   Things are starting to move on the Lunar Lander, w...   Sep 30 2005, 08:23 PM
- - jamescanvin   Decent Space Review article this week, giving a go...   Oct 18 2005, 01:38 AM
- - AlexBlackwell   An interesting tidbit from the "In Orbit...   Jan 9 2006, 06:03 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   NASA Developing Robotic Scouts For Lunar Explorati...   Jan 23 2006, 06:42 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Alex, your posts are very useful... Thanks. Phil   Jan 23 2006, 07:08 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 23 2006, 07:08 PM)Al...   Jan 23 2006, 11:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   "Trailing cables"? They're kidding,...   Jan 24 2006, 01:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   The first time they try it, will they have to use ...   Jan 24 2006, 04:24 PM
- - RNeuhaus   A new article from space.com Lunar Reconnaissance...   Feb 8 2006, 07:18 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The irregularities in the gravitational field are ...   Feb 8 2006, 10:01 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 8 2006, 10:01 PM)And...   Feb 9 2006, 12:31 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Alex, you can't really say that Clementine ...   Feb 9 2006, 02:46 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   Phil: At least with the later Apollo flights and ...   Feb 9 2006, 09:25 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 9 2006, 02:46 AM)Ale...   Feb 9 2006, 06:24 PM
- - Phil Stooke   It might *just* be possible, Bob, but the tracks w...   Feb 9 2006, 01:23 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 9 2006, 08:23 AM)It ...   Feb 9 2006, 01:49 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 9 2006, 02:23 PM)It ...   Feb 9 2006, 07:42 PM
- - Phil Stooke   No. That information, which is repeated on many w...   Feb 9 2006, 02:09 PM
- - Phil Stooke   One final point, often not appreciated. The laser...   Feb 9 2006, 02:19 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Kaboom! Ancient impacts scarred moon to its co...   Feb 9 2006, 06:05 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Very interesting article: Kaboom! Ancient impa...   Feb 9 2006, 07:04 PM
- - dvandorn   In fact, Bob, the footprints and wheel tracks near...   Feb 9 2006, 10:54 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 9 2006, 11:54 PM)In fac...   Feb 10 2006, 12:00 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Feb 10 2006, 06:00 AM)...Ap...   Feb 11 2006, 12:36 AM
|- - ljk4-1   If this is any help, Lunar Orbiter 3 was able to i...   Feb 11 2006, 04:42 AM
- - Phil Stooke   There are no lunar prospector images! And the...   Feb 10 2006, 03:45 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 10 2006, 03:45 AM)Th...   Feb 10 2006, 05:57 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   On Apollo 12 , Dick Gordon -- from lunar orbit -- ...   Feb 11 2006, 05:31 AM
- - dvandorn   Gordon saw both the LM and Surveyor with his eye, ...   Feb 11 2006, 06:27 AM
|- - ljk4-1   Dolores Beasley Headquarters, Washington Phone: ...   Feb 17 2006, 04:08 PM
- - PhilHorzempa   [size=2]Does anyone have recent info on the RLEP-2...   Apr 3 2006, 07:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   RLEP-2 will be a brand new spacecraft, so they wil...   Apr 4 2006, 03:01 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   NASA has made it clear that it will land at a pola...   Apr 4 2006, 03:24 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I've dug up some more on this. It turns out I...   Apr 5 2006, 12:12 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 5 2006, 08:12 AM...   Apr 6 2006, 07:08 PM
||- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Apr 6 2006, 03...   Apr 8 2006, 02:04 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   Perhaps the vehicle is already built, as the Blue ...   Apr 8 2006, 03:44 PM
||- - Jim from NSF.com   Maybe so, but there still is no vehicle able to la...   Apr 8 2006, 08:31 PM
|- - PhilHorzempa   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 5 2006, 09:12 AM...   Apr 7 2006, 08:06 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks for this, Bruce. Very nice. The landing a...   Apr 5 2006, 12:35 PM
- - dvandorn   Hiya, Jim. No, this thing wouldn't fly on a C...   Apr 7 2006, 04:37 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   Then this is not going to fly before the LSAM, bec...   Apr 7 2006, 05:00 PM
- - dvandorn   Yep -- if Bruce's information is correct, then...   Apr 7 2006, 05:13 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   I don't see happening until the LSAM contracto...   Apr 7 2006, 05:40 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   What it's supposed to be -- according to Mark ...   Apr 8 2006, 09:09 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   If there's an impactor mission using the Rayth...   Apr 8 2006, 09:14 PM
||- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 8 2006, 02:14 PM) I...   May 17 2006, 02:05 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ May 17 2006, 10:05 ...   May 17 2006, 02:28 PM
||- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ May 17 2006, 07:28 A...   May 17 2006, 03:54 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Apr 8 2006, 02:09 PM...   Apr 8 2006, 10:04 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   No, it's just "holding off" on sayin...   Apr 8 2006, 10:56 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Bruce: I suppose that the EKV technology, althoug...   Apr 8 2006, 11:21 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Cowing now confirms that RLEP-2 is in very serious...   Apr 9 2006, 10:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Bruce: The mission design as shown in the slide a...   Apr 9 2006, 11:19 PM
|- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 9 2006, 11:19 PM) B...   Apr 10 2006, 12:25 AM
- - RNeuhaus   Many more presentations: http://www.digitalspace...   Apr 10 2006, 12:15 AM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Apr 9 2006, 06:15 PM) M...   Apr 10 2006, 03:33 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Actually, it's LRO (and its piggyback) that wi...   Apr 10 2006, 03:51 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   One thing that I strangely haven't seen mentio...   Apr 11 2006, 04:10 AM
- - PhilHorzempa   Isn't it about time that RLEP-2 receive a prop...   May 10 2006, 04:53 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   I've got some genuinely reliable and wholly un...   May 10 2006, 08:49 AM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 10 2006, 04:49 A...   May 11 2006, 02:46 PM
|- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ May 11 2006, 02...   May 11 2006, 08:51 PM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 11 2006, 04:51 P...   May 12 2006, 12:15 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Let me repeat that the fact that RLEP-2 will be mu...   May 12 2006, 01:21 AM
- - Phil Stooke   PhilHorzempa said: "My suggestion is Surveyor...   May 12 2006, 01:59 AM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 12 2006, 09:59 A...   May 13 2006, 10:51 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (gndonald @ May 13 2006, 06:51 AM) ...   May 19 2006, 04:20 PM
- - Analyst   Back to LRO. I never understood the "problem...   May 12 2006, 06:19 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Analyst @ May 11 2006, 11:19 PM) B...   May 12 2006, 06:49 AM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (Analyst @ May 12 2006, 02:19 AM) I...   May 12 2006, 12:20 PM
- - Analyst   Thanks, sounds valid. On the other hand, Messenger...   May 12 2006, 07:56 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   That first rumor about Seasat's early demise g...   May 18 2006, 12:10 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 17 2006, 05:10 P...   May 18 2006, 02:36 AM
|- - mchan   I recall reading some Congressional hearings trans...   May 18 2006, 03:07 AM
- - ljk4-1   Who needs fancy and expensive laser weapons to wip...   May 18 2006, 04:53 PM
- - PhilHorzempa   Here is the recent news, from NASAWatch, about cha...   May 29 2006, 02:58 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   This wouldn't be true if Sen. Shelby's dem...   May 29 2006, 03:28 AM
- - PhilHorzempa   As for RLEP-2, I don't know enough to judge wh...   May 31 2006, 02:04 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ May 30 2006, 09:04 ...   May 31 2006, 11:05 AM
|- - Jim from NSF.com   QUOTE (PhilHorzempa @ May 30 2006, 10:04 ...   May 31 2006, 02:11 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Not at a cost of $2 billion or more, which wa...   May 31 2006, 05:54 AM
- - ljk4-1   They also better come up with a better acronym for...   May 31 2006, 02:39 PM
- - ljk4-1   Is anyone here working on LRO or know someone who ...   Jun 19 2006, 07:20 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   The Workshop on Lunar Crater Observing and Sensing...   Jul 24 2006, 08:29 PM
- - FordPrefect   Just a question, I can't seem to find any info...   Sep 4 2006, 10:12 AM
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