PFS issue on Venus Express, PFS scanner stuck in its closed position Options

[Rakhir]

Bad news for PFS. I hope they will be able to solve this issue.

The PFS scanner is stuck in its closed position.
Several attempts to move it were made at the time, but the instrument did not respond. Experts suspected a thermal problem by which low temperatures were blocking the rotation of the mechanism.
Another attempt to move the scanner was made on 16 March 2006, in warmer flight conditions. Unfortunately, the scanner remains stuck.

The next opportunity to perform another test on the spacecraft will be end of April, after the Venus Orbit Insertion.

From http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/in...fobjectid=38964

[djellison]

Boys - don't make me come in here!! Inappropriate politics removed.

I'm amazed you've not had a dig at something/someone about this one though Bruce - deployment of devices in space is something you've enjoyed lambasting in the past ( based on Galileo and MEX )

Doug

[The Messenger]

Boys - don't make me come in here!! Inappropriate politics removed.

I'm amazed you've not had a dig at something/someone about this one though Bruce - deployment of devices in space is something you've enjoyed lambasting in the past ( based on Galileo and MEX )

Doug

It is not inappropriate to complain about the untimeliness of this release. In a worse case scenario, the failure will be traced to widget xyz, and the same widget has a deployment function on New Horizions.

Failures of space-based hardware need to be known and understood by the space design communtity in a timely manner, so we can look under the bonnet of anything we are building and fix it, before it hits the street. This is a space health management issue...

[djellison]

It is not inappropriate to complain about the untimeliness of this release...

It IS inappropriate to bring Iraq into it, to use a rather crude phrasology when refering to the Italians and to have a post that saying nothing but "Grrrrrrrrr"

Doug

[Guest_BruceMoomaw_*]

It IS inappropriate to bring Iraq into it, to use a rather crude phrasology when refering to the Italians and to have a post that saying nothing but "Grrrrrrrrr"

Doug

Yeah, actually it was (although you'll note that I was actually sneering at US pretensions of superiority in that post, by doing a Merle Haggard imitation with a sarcastic snark at the end). My apologies. (Also, I thought Messenger was GRRRing at me, rather than at the damn PFS.)

I would imagine that solar cycling has as much chance of remedying this as anything, although it will be tricky to pull off.


If they can't correct this, it WILL be a pity to lose it -- PFS was the second most important instrument onboard. Yet again, moving parts prove to be the bane of space missions, and we have proof that it's better to err on the side of excess in designing the strength of actuators (whether motors or springs).

[Marz]

Yeah, actually it was (although you'll note that I was actually sneering at US pretensions of superiority in that post, by doing a Merle Haggard imitation with a sarcastic snark at the end). My apologies. (Also, I thought Messenger was GRRRing at me, rather than at the damn PFS.)

I would imagine that solar cycling has as much chance of remedying this as anything, although it will be tricky to pull off.
If they can't correct this, it WILL be a pity to lose it -- PFS was the second most important instrument onboard. Yet again, moving parts prove to be the bane of space missions, and we have proof that it's better to err on the side of excess in designing the strength of actuators (whether motors or springs).

Dumb question, but is VIRTIS the primo instrument of VExpress? Are some mission objectives compromised if PFS remains stuck, or can VIRTIS still achieve the main science goals?

After Mars Express gave us the Great Boom Scare of '05, I wonder if some serious thought & money should be spent trying to make deploy-or-bust designs?

[GravityWaves]

After Mars Express gave us the Great Boom Scare of '05, I wonder if some serious thought & money should be spent trying to make deploy-or-bust designs?

more problems for Europe maybe they'll fix it ?... well at least Mars Express done great at Mars