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Feb 10 2006, 10:18 PM
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Sunspot, NM (Feb. 7, 2006) -- The planet Venus is best known for the thick layers of clouds that veil its surface from view by telescopes on Earth. But the veil has holes, and a New Mexico State University scientist plans on using a solar telescope to peer through them to study the weather on Venus.
"Observations of Venus from a nighttime telescope at a single location are very difficult because Venus is so close to the Sun in the sky," said Dr. Nancy Chanover, a planetary scientist at NMSU in Las Cruces, NM. "You can observe it for about two hours at most." Then the Sun rises and blinds the telescope (or Venus sets, depending on the time of year). http://www.nso.edu/press/venus06/ -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Feb 14 2006, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
Sunspot, NM (Feb. 7, 2006) -- The planet Venus is best known for the thick layers of clouds that veil its surface from view by telescopes on Earth. But the veil has holes, and a New Mexico State University scientist plans on using a solar telescope to peer through them to study the weather on Venus. "Observations of Venus from a nighttime telescope at a single location are very difficult because Venus is so close to the Sun in the sky," said Dr. Nancy Chanover, a planetary scientist at NMSU in Las Cruces, NM. "You can observe it for about two hours at most." Then the Sun rises and blinds the telescope (or Venus sets, depending on the time of year). http://www.nso.edu/press/venus06/ VENUSIAN HEAT - Filter Problems Hamper Venus Observations http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Filter_P...servations.html Sunspot, NM (SPX) Feb 13, 2006 - Instrument problems have kept the team at the Dunn Solar Telescope from observing the planet Venus as they had hoped. "The filter on our infrared camera is leaking thermal radiation and keeping us from observing the planet," said Nancy Chanover, principal investigator from New Mexico State University. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Feb 22 2006, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
Science/Astronomy:
* Planetary Protection Study Group Mulls Life On Venus http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060221_venus_life.html A special study group has advised NASA that Venus is far too hellish of a world for life to exist on or below the planet's surface. Furthermore, while the potential for life in the clouds of Venus can't be ruled out, the expert panel gauged this possibility as extremely low. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Feb 22 2006, 04:21 PM
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A special study group has advised NASA that Venus is far too hellish of a world for life to exist on or below the planet's surface. Furthermore, while the potential for life in the clouds of Venus can't be ruled out, the expert panel gauged this possibility as extremely low. Well, the lava-drinkers who have built glorious cities all over Venus will be surprised to hear this. Aside from the acid problem, and the finite nutrition in a droplet, the problem with cloud-life, on Venus or elsewhere is that turnover will lead individual droplets to undergo harsh temperature changes. The usual issue with life and extreme conditions is that it's one thing for life to originate in an accomodating niche and spread/adapt to a harsher one, but another for it to originate in a place with narrow margins. The best hope for life in the Venusian clouds would be if it once existed on the surface, before Venus lost its H2O and gained its CO2 and heat (if there was a time before that), spread to the clouds, and adapted to the massive changes that took place in the meantime. This seems less likely than fossilized life on Mars, but any attempt to prove that mathematically would require some assumptions with little basis in fact. |
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Mar 23 2006, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
I also get a small thrill out of looking at a planet in the night sky
and knowing that one of humanity's probes is there exploring it at that very moment. I particularly recall when Mars Pathfinder landed on Mars on July 4, 1997. I was outdoors watching a fireworks display when between the artificial explosions I could see the Red Planet shining fairly bright in the dark sky. And I knew right at that moment that the first machine in 21 years was just getting down to business on that world. Now we can do the same for Venus and Venus Express: NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO SEE VENUS THIS YEAR Astronomy Magazine Press Release WAUKESHA, WI — The “morning star” Venus lights the sky before dawn, heralding spring’s arrival. On March 25, the brilliant planet reaches its greatest western elongation — when the planet is as far west of the Sun as possible. Then, it sits just above the horizon in the east-southeast sky 2 hours before sunrise. Look for the waning crescent Moon passing to the right of the “morning star.” Venus will be the bright object just to the upper left of the Moon. Each day thereafter, Venus’ sky position sinks closer to the horizon. Venus shone at its brightest, magnitude –4.6, in February, but the planet will dominate the morning sky throughout summer. Take a Look To the naked eye, Venus’ light rivals only moonshine in the early morning sky. But you can use a telescope to watch as the planet changes phases, like the Moon’s, during the year. By March 25, its globe measures 25" through a telescope and has fattened to half-lit. It’s at its brightest for the year now; even though the phase increases, its angular size decreases as the Earth-Venus distance increases. Venus’ Orbit Our “sister planet” lies an average of 67 million miles (108 million kilometers) from the Sun. Because Venus lies closer to the Sun than Earth, it always appears close to our star in the sky. On March 26, Venus and the Moon help you spot a rarely seen planet: Neptune. At about 5 a.m. local time, Venus appears slightly north of (above) Neptune. The Moon lies just below and to the left of the planets. Quick Facts - Venus orbits the Sun in 225 days. - The planet is about 7,521 miles (12,104 km) in diameter, or 95 percent the size of Earth. - Venus spins on its axis once every 243 days, but it spins in the opposite direction of Earth — on Venus, the Sun rises in the west and sets in the east. - Venus’ atmosphere is thick sulfuric-acid clouds, which reflect sunlight extremely well. - The surface temperature on Venus can approach 900º Fahrenheit (482º Celsius); it’s the hottest place in the solar system after the Sun. - In Roman mythology, Venus was identified with the goddess of love and beauty, Aphrodite. To the ancient Mayans, Venus was the patron planet of warfare called Kukulcan (the feathered serpent). Also in the Sky - Throughout March — Saturn lies high in the southeast. An hour after sunset, the ringed planet shines at magnitude 0 and stands among the faint stars of Cancer the Crab. - Through the end of March — Jupiter can be spotted in the southwest sky in the predawn sky. - Wednesday, March 29 — A total solar eclipse darkens the sky over northern Africa and Asia. Astronomy magazine is leading two tour groups through the eclipse path. Visit Astronomy.com for special coverage. -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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