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Mgs Resolves Meridiani-like Outcrops
SigurRosFan
post Jan 12 2006, 01:44 PM
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post May 1 2006, 01:47 PM
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Giving 200 Whrs as basically the cut-off of survivability, it's more like 90-150 sols on your graphs

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post May 1 2006, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ May 1 2006, 01:47 PM) *
Giving 200 Whrs as basically the cut-off of survivability, it's more like 90-150 sols on your graphs

I think abalone's point was that if you could land such a rover in late winter you could have rising overall insolation for 100 -150 or so Sols prior to the start of this sample chart of mine which was based on the Spirit landing date so a 250+ Sol mission might be possible, the 90-150 Sol limit is only the case if you land at the same time as spirit did in late summer at 60 or so Sols before the Autumnal equinox.

The very rapid drop off in insolation with the onset of winter comes from the proximity to the martian "antartic" circle - this location is only 10 degrees closer to the equator than Phoenix's landing site.

I don't know enough about mars transfer orbits to tell whether there are practical launch windows that could place such a lander on the surface at the right time.

One possibility for "cheap" lander\rovers would be to develop core mechanics\electronics that could reliably hibernate through deep winter. Add in (semi) pointable solar arrays and you might be able to build a long lived rover or lander that could work at these latitudes for longer than a single summer season. RTG's are obviously the answer at the moment for large rovers like MSL but it would be nice to see a fleet of small sensor landers\rovers scattered across a much wider selection of terrains at some stage.
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- SigurRosFan   Mgs Resolves Meridiani-like Outcrops   Jan 12 2006, 01:44 PM
- - RNeuhaus   That pictures is a good example on how the ripples...   Jan 12 2006, 03:16 PM
|- - Oersted   Spectacularly beautiful! - And a good example ...   Jan 12 2006, 05:17 PM
- - um3k   I have a feeling that HiRISE images of Meridiani w...   Jan 12 2006, 05:25 PM
- - lyford   That is so incredibly beautiful! Thanks to ME...   Jan 12 2006, 06:12 PM
- - Nix   Spectacular image I was thinking the same um3k,...   Jan 12 2006, 07:36 PM
- - Marz   Way cool! Is Hellas too far south for a s...   Jan 12 2006, 10:20 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Marz @ Jan 12 2006, 11:20 PM)Way cool...   Jan 13 2006, 12:38 AM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 13 2006, 10:38 AM) T...   May 1 2006, 01:22 PM
- - Bob Shaw   Interesting terrain in Hellas, not least because i...   Jan 12 2006, 10:53 PM
- - SigurRosFan   Hellas impact event --> melting underground ic...   Jan 12 2006, 11:00 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (SigurRosFan @ Jan 13 2006, 12:00 AM)He...   Jan 13 2006, 09:28 AM
- - TheChemist   Hellas Basin can be truly appreciated in this MOLA...   Jan 13 2006, 10:55 AM
- - SigurRosFan   Which MOLA site?   Jan 13 2006, 12:39 PM
- - SigurRosFan   More outcrops in Hellas ... - http://www.msss.com...   Apr 30 2006, 04:18 PM
|- - FIN Mars   QUOTE (SigurRosFan @ Apr 30 2006, 07:18 P...   May 1 2006, 10:32 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (FIN Mars @ May 1 2006, 10:32 AM) W...   May 1 2006, 11:22 AM
|- - antoniseb   QUOTE (djellison @ May 1 2006, 05:22 AM) ...   May 1 2006, 12:13 PM
- - CosmicRocker   I can remember the first images of Mars to come ba...   May 1 2006, 04:14 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Apr 30 2006, 11:14 ...   May 1 2006, 04:36 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   Woaow super images I wonder, if they took the ...   May 1 2006, 06:33 AM
- - Bill Harris   "All of the above". We have similar app...   May 1 2006, 12:26 PM
- - djellison   Giving 200 Whrs as basically the cut-off of surviv...   May 1 2006, 01:47 PM
- - helvick   QUOTE (djellison @ May 1 2006, 01:47 PM) ...   May 1 2006, 02:40 PM
- - abalone   QUOTE (djellison @ May 1 2006, 11:47 PM) ...   May 1 2006, 02:57 PM
- - helvick   QUOTE (abalone @ May 1 2006, 02:57 PM) I ...   May 1 2006, 03:38 PM


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