On a ring origin of the equatorial ridge of Iapetus |
On a ring origin of the equatorial ridge of Iapetus |
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Wing Ip just had an interesting Iapetus-related paper published in GRL.
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We may find Iapetan like ridge structures on a percentage of the larger KBOs.
Not sure NASA wold mass produce New Horizon clones and start launching them en masse to the outer solar system ( [laugh] ), but it would be interesting to have a few more examples to study. |
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Hi,
before we should keep on speculating whether the equatorial ridge was built by an ancient Iapetian ring, we should take a closer look at the ridge, e.g. if there are older structures below it - what could answer its built up... Here again what I wrote half a year ago - and an interesting pic: One question to answer should be: So, if there is really an older feature below a ring-built belt we could eventually be in trouble with the ring's age....What is older, the equatorial ridge or its surrunding/overlaying area, speak the craters? Therefore I compared these two shots of the 'belly band': Visible left is a large bassin (large pink circle) in the western part of CR cut by the part of the ridge with the 'white peaks'. Thus the crater must be older than them, even if its central peak (small pink circle) doesn't coincide with the 'white peak' NW of it and it is also lower. So you could guess the ridge there is fairly young, maybe eruptive.... In the right image another part of the ridge in central CR is shown. It seems to be quite old. Lots of craters (red circles) crashed into it and disturbed its line. The craters in the blue circles look somehow tilted, probably raised up by the ridge. But due to bad resolution this is difficult to discern... And don't forget there is no evidence for the ridge east of CR, only some uncertain albedo features. Is the equatorial ridge powered by some longitudinal subsurfaced source or is there a gravitational cause from one direction? The belts different heights and ages then could be explained by a longitudinal shift over a longterm period. For me speaking, I'm more convinced of an internal origin of the belt - probably connected with a large impact and/or some internal processes. This ring theory sounds too strange and unlikely... ![]() ![]() But planets around a neutron star did that as well ... ![]() Bye. |
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Hi, This ring theory sounds too strange and unlikely... Bye. That makes you the second poster here, along with Ugordan, to be sceptical of the whole idea. Any particular reason for this, or just a general hunch? As an undergraduate in 1970 I remember arguing with my geology professor about the origin of lunar craters. His line was "Why invoke an exotic external cause when there's a perfectly natural geological explanation?" With hindsight it seems surprising that fossil ring structures were not predicted ahead of the Iapetus discovery, given the ubiquity of rings when things break up in the vicinity of other things, plus the fact that most ring material will inevitably spiral inward over time and has to end up somewhere. So, A QUESTION: Has anybody here come across a prior prediction of fossil ring structures, either in the scientific literature, in fiction, or in informal communications? |
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So, A QUESTION: Has anybody here come across a prior prediction of fossil ring structures, either in the scientific literature, in fiction, or in informal communications? Yes. Rings, anyhow. I recall prior to the Voyager 1 flyby of Saturn, the JPL team was cautioned to "expect the unexpected" and rings around moons were specifically mentioned as something that might be seen. Sorry I don't have a link for this, but I seem to recall this was shown in the PBS Nova episode about the Voyager Saturn flybys. IIRC, the episode title was 'Resolution on Saturn', and I am quite sure I haven't seen that episode since it's original broadcast. Also, I think there is art work (at least) showing the earth's moon forming after the Orpheus impact. The debris field is invariably portrayed as a ring like structure. That the entire structure wouldn't be incorporated into the nascent moon seems obvious, but the eventual disposition of such material seems to be unremarked upon. As for a specific prediction of the appearance of an emplaced ring structure on a small airless body made prior to Cassini, I haven't found anything yet. |
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