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post Sep 5 2006, 07:13 AM
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Might I humbly suggest this new thread, as Victoria looms large before us..?

GREAT images guys. I was out last night and have only just got online, to find Victoria opening up ahead of us... what a fantastic time! biggrin.gif


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post Sep 8 2006, 08:46 PM
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While we are waiting for the final steps towards Victoria I did the following exercise trying to identify two far rim features (A and cool.gif seen on sol 931 pancams with their counterparts on a MOC image. Yes, this has been already done by Pando (for cool.gif, but I've got different results.

Comparing this identification with Pando's, there is a difference of just 2 degrees in the absolute heading of the feature I identified as B and the one identified by him (slightly to the NE). The problem is that if I rotate the polar projection and the heading lines by those 2 degrees counter-clockwise, the near rim features I used as reference don't match (specially the one to the right of cool.gif and the pancam pointing information (taken from the PCDT web) would be off by those 2 degrees too.

We should know the "ground truth" in few days, hopefully after only one driving sol, but meanwhile I would like to know your comments.
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post Sep 8 2006, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 8 2006, 01:46 PM) *
Comparing this identification with Pando's, there is a difference of just 2 degrees in the absolute heading of the feature I identified as B and the one identified by him (slightly to the NE). The problem is that if I rotate the polar projection and the heading lines by those 2 degrees counter-clockwise, the near rim features I used as reference don't match (specially the one to the right of cool.gif and the pancam pointing information (taken from the PCDT web) would be off by those 2 degrees too.


Tesheiner, you're awesome smile.gif I wasn't trying to make mine perfect (it was done only minutes after I got the images), so there's always room for improvement. Carry on... biggrin.gif

EDIT: Actually, going back thru the messages for past few days, I would also like to credit jamescanvin who correctly identified it in this post very early after the images were down (which I missed while fiddling with the images myself).
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- Stu   Victoria ahead...   Sep 5 2006, 07:13 AM
- - climber   I agree for this new thread since it'll last o...   Sep 5 2006, 07:29 AM
- - Bobby   It will last 3 more sols before we discover Ustrax...   Sep 5 2006, 08:15 AM
|- - ustrax   Why are you taking so long?...   Sep 5 2006, 08:24 AM
- - climber   (good ) question : Knowing the height of the came...   Sep 5 2006, 11:02 AM
- - djellison   Well - for that we'd need to know the height o...   Sep 5 2006, 11:35 AM
- - Stu   If I'm right, then going from everyone's e...   Sep 5 2006, 09:52 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 5 2006, 04:52 PM) If I...   Sep 5 2006, 10:42 PM
- - gregp1962   I used to think that the rim of this huge crater w...   Sep 5 2006, 10:34 PM
|- - Nix   QUOTE (gregp1962 @ Sep 6 2006, 12:34 AM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 03:25 PM
- - Stu   Yep, that's what I said... what we'll see ...   Sep 5 2006, 11:09 PM
- - Stu   okay, I'll just talk to myself then... Jus...   Sep 6 2006, 08:17 AM
- - Stu   (testing) This might spur on some discussion a...   Sep 7 2006, 01:13 PM
|- - climber   Thanks Stu, that helps and even more if Oppy make ...   Sep 7 2006, 02:20 PM
|- - Nirgal   Looking at the new images at exploratorium I am no...   Sep 7 2006, 02:55 PM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Sep 7 2006, 04:55 PM) And...   Sep 7 2006, 03:33 PM
- - Pando   Nirgal, we do see the plains, but the very bright ...   Sep 7 2006, 03:08 PM
- - dot.dk   Pando: Do you have any sol forecasts you would lik...   Sep 7 2006, 03:11 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Sep 7 2006, 08:11 AM) And...   Sep 7 2006, 03:45 PM
- - Stu   I think we'll see some very interesting deta...   Sep 7 2006, 03:50 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 7 2006, 03:50 PM) I thin...   Sep 7 2006, 04:27 PM
|- - MichaelT   QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 7 2006, 04:27 PM) I agr...   Sep 7 2006, 05:28 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (MichaelT @ Sep 7 2006, 07:28 PM) Y...   Sep 7 2006, 06:24 PM
- - djellison   Looks like normal end-of-drive-idd-deploy, not a s...   Sep 7 2006, 03:51 PM
- - Myran   QUOTE Nix wrote: BTW, I'm getting nervous , h...   Sep 7 2006, 03:55 PM
- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 7 2006, 05:51 PM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 03:57 PM
- - djellison   Post drive FHAZ images are a normal thing though -...   Sep 7 2006, 04:03 PM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 7 2006, 04:03 PM) ...   Sep 7 2006, 07:05 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (OWW @ Sep 7 2006, 08:05 PM) Are yo...   Sep 7 2006, 10:29 PM
- - Pando   You're right Doug, the IDD is in the exact sam...   Sep 7 2006, 04:14 PM
- - Nix   some additional views; co-registered anaglyph for ...   Sep 7 2006, 05:32 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Nix @ Sep 7 2006, 07:32 PM) some a...   Sep 7 2006, 06:27 PM
- - djellison   Fair enough - I'm just used to seing reachabil...   Sep 7 2006, 10:50 PM
- - RedSky   This pic just made me realize something... here w...   Sep 8 2006, 01:02 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (RedSky @ Sep 8 2006, 01:02 AM) Thi...   Sep 8 2006, 01:52 AM
|- - Aldebaran   QUOTE (RedSky @ Sep 8 2006, 01:02 AM) Thi...   Sep 8 2006, 02:50 AM
- - Bill Harris   That's what I've been thinking, too, Aldeb...   Sep 8 2006, 06:59 AM
- - Stu   Anyone else think we're now actually seeing ...   Sep 8 2006, 03:19 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   Wow. Good call.   Sep 8 2006, 03:33 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 8 2006, 08:19 AM) Anyone...   Sep 8 2006, 03:42 PM
|- - MaxSt   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 8 2006, 11:19 AM) Anyone...   Sep 8 2006, 04:11 PM
- - Stu   Thanks, but can't claim it as my own, 100%; an...   Sep 8 2006, 03:39 PM
- - Stu   Ah, sorry Pando, I must just have missed that post...   Sep 8 2006, 03:44 PM
- - Pando   Hey no problem at all, don't worry about it. I...   Sep 8 2006, 03:49 PM
|- - ustrax   Pando=youremi?! Hey man can you count the t...   Sep 8 2006, 04:09 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (ustrax @ Sep 8 2006, 09:09 AM) Hey...   Sep 8 2006, 04:22 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 8 2006, 05:22 PM) befo...   Sep 8 2006, 04:42 PM
- - Stu   Well, if it IS "Cleft" we're glimp...   Sep 8 2006, 04:20 PM
- - Bill Harris   Stu, google "slope failure" and "ma...   Sep 8 2006, 04:58 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Sep 8 2006, 05:58 PM...   Sep 8 2006, 08:16 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (ustrax @ Sep 8 2006, 12:16 PM) Hey...   Sep 8 2006, 08:52 PM
- - Stu   Been playing about with the best image we have o...   Sep 8 2006, 05:00 PM
|- - MarkL   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 8 2006, 05:00 PM) Been...   Sep 9 2006, 02:43 PM
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|- - mhoward   Any details on the nature of the drive fault? I ha...   Sep 8 2006, 06:29 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 8 2006, 11:24 AM) ...   Sep 8 2006, 06:52 PM
- - Bill Harris   There are a lot of interesting features in the bow...   Sep 8 2006, 06:33 PM
- - dot.dk   What is the DSN issue?   Sep 8 2006, 07:10 PM
|- - stevelu   Not sure if this is what you're asking, but fo...   Sep 8 2006, 07:51 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Sep 8 2006, 02:10 PM) Wha...   Sep 8 2006, 09:09 PM
- - Tesheiner   While we are waiting for the final steps towards V...   Sep 8 2006, 08:46 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 8 2006, 01:46 PM) ...   Sep 8 2006, 10:28 PM
- - djellison   Just to bring RN's info up to date Virtually ...   Sep 8 2006, 09:26 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 8 2006, 10:26 PM) ...   Sep 8 2006, 10:06 PM
- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 9 2006, 06:46 AM) ...   Sep 9 2006, 01:13 AM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 9 2006, 03:13 AM...   Sep 9 2006, 06:43 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 9 2006, 04:43 PM) ...   Sep 9 2006, 08:07 AM
- - Bobby   I asked this question a long time ago regarding Vi...   Sep 9 2006, 01:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Bobby, it's impossible to tell. Victoria has ...   Sep 9 2006, 01:40 AM
- - CosmicRocker   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 8 2006, 08:13 PM...   Sep 9 2006, 05:48 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Oh, has anyone noticed that the trench and scuff p...   Sep 9 2006, 06:09 AM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Sep 9 2006, 06:09 A...   Sep 9 2006, 03:55 PM
|- - MarkL   QUOTE (mhoward @ Sep 9 2006, 03:55 PM) In...   Sep 9 2006, 05:24 PM
- - dot.dk   SOL 936 is a driving sol CODE936 p1154.01 0 ...   Sep 9 2006, 06:26 AM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (dot.dk @ Sep 8 2006, 11:26 PM) SOL...   Sep 9 2006, 07:11 AM
- - Bobby   OK James. I started this near/far rim topic regar...   Sep 9 2006, 08:34 AM
- - jamescanvin   I think we all know where the Beacon is by now don...   Sep 9 2006, 09:00 AM
- - djellison   The fact that we now know the near rim to be at le...   Sep 9 2006, 09:23 AM
- - Bill Harris   Not necessarily. Before, Beagle Oppy was also hig...   Sep 9 2006, 10:33 AM
- - djellison   2km back up at Erebus - we would have had to be 20...   Sep 9 2006, 11:10 AM
- - Stu   Thanks Mark. I think the interior of VC is going t...   Sep 9 2006, 03:57 PM
- - Bobby   The Space Shuttle Atlantis is up and safe. What a...   Sep 9 2006, 03:57 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Bobby @ Sep 10 2006, 01:57 AM) The...   Sep 10 2006, 02:49 AM
- - mhoward   Here's some catchup stuff: Sol 931 Navcam equ...   Sep 9 2006, 05:39 PM
- - mhoward   I guess I'll post this in this thread, even th...   Sep 9 2006, 06:05 PM
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|- - mhoward   QUOTE (Pando @ Sep 9 2006, 07:01 PM) Whic...   Sep 9 2006, 07:31 PM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (mhoward @ Sep 9 2006, 09:31 PM) Th...   Sep 9 2006, 08:01 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (mhoward @ Sep 9 2006, 06:05 PM) Pe...   Sep 9 2006, 06:40 PM
- - Stu   ...cos if that big rocky scab on the horizon reall...   Sep 9 2006, 07:04 PM
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|- - mhoward   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 9 2006, 07:35 PM) Phew.....   Sep 9 2006, 07:40 PM
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|- - diane   QUOTE (general @ Sep 9 2006, 04:48 PM) As...   Sep 9 2006, 08:51 PM
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- - fredk   Stunning polars, Phil! In the second one, the...   Sep 9 2006, 09:43 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 9 2006, 04:43 PM) Stun...   Sep 9 2006, 11:53 PM
- - Phil Stooke   To overlay my "extreme polars" on the ro...   Sep 10 2006, 12:42 AM
- - bmoskovi   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 9 2006, 05:42 PM...   Sep 10 2006, 03:51 AM
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