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post Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM
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biggrin.gif Here is the Venera 13 fully calibrated image, produced from raw imaging 3-filters data (note the 3 horizons at left well discernible). It was published inside "L'Astronomie Magazine" of Societe Astronomique de France.
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:28 AM
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Thanks, it was an afterthought really, but I'm glad I did it. My brain definately sees the terrain better in perspective, even though I am not seeing an new pixels.

I added a little extra info about the project on my blog: Venus in Perspective
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post Sep 12 2006, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 11 2006, 06:28 PM) *
I added a little extra info about the project on my blog: Venus in Perspective

Very interesting and well-done. One question: the "channel" in the mid-field of the image on your blog page seems suspiciously aligned with the edges of the image coverage. Is there really reason to think this is anything but an artifact of your processing? I wouldn't want people doing photogeology on the basis of seeing this feature if there isn't real evidence for it.


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post Sep 12 2006, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 11 2006, 09:40 PM) *
Very interesting and well-done. One question: the "channel" in the mid-field of the image on your blog page seems suspiciously aligned with the edges of the image coverage. Is there really reason to think this is anything but an artifact of your processing? I wouldn't want people doing photogeology on the basis of seeing this feature if there isn't real evidence for it.


The persective images are derived from superimposing different projections, with photoshop. I explain that on my latest blog entry. Geologists would not use an image like that to do any kind of analysis. They are just meant to convey the big picture of what the terrain looks like, in a familiar camera perspective. For photo interpretation of geology, you would look at the new unprojected images, with the improved radiometric response function, or even the individual perspective projections, like the three partitial images I show.

Soviet researches, at one time, reprojected the Venera images into the cylindrical form returned by the Viking Mars lander, to help make comparisons in a projection that planetary geologists had become use to studying.
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post Sep 12 2006, 11:01 AM
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Don, my first attempt to produce vertical/polar projections showed unacceptable distorsion in the lower part, due to the fact that your image isn't an equirectangular projection but is probably closer to a wide-angle image with rectilinear correction (like some processed hazard cam images from MER).
After applying to the original some "pincushion" distorsion and assuming 90 deg FOV, results appear better (vertical projections for V13 and 14 respectively):
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Do not know real scale (should be a 0.5cm/pixel assuming a camera height of 1m); someone can calculate based on the probe features...
Here the corresponding pseudo-polars:
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- vikingmars   Venera Images   Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM
- - Decepticon   Wow! Nice work.   Sep 14 2005, 09:31 PM
- - um3k   Very nice!   Sep 14 2005, 10:07 PM
- - hal_9000   WoW!   Sep 14 2005, 10:25 PM
- - gpurcell   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM) He...   Sep 14 2005, 10:36 PM
- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 14 2005, 09:26 PM) He...   Sep 15 2005, 12:18 AM
- - vikingmars   Dear Tedstryk, Yes, indeed, I had to reconstruct s...   Sep 15 2005, 07:18 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Sep 15 2005, 07:18 AM) De...   Sep 15 2005, 02:31 PM
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- - Decepticon   Now thats cool!   Sep 19 2005, 09:45 PM
- - GregM   .   Sep 24 2005, 03:39 AM
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||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 24 2005, 09:48 AM)...Su...   Sep 24 2005, 04:02 PM
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|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Sep 23 2005, 10:05 PM)ted...   Sep 24 2005, 04:39 PM
- - vikingmars   Looking again closely at the Venera 13 camera 1 ra...   Oct 4 2005, 08:00 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 03:00 PM) Loo...   Oct 4 2005, 08:29 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 09:00 PM)And ...   Oct 4 2005, 10:50 PM
- - vikingmars   ...and I forgot to show you how the camera 1 pan l...   Oct 4 2005, 08:21 PM
- - vikingmars   Well ljk4-1... I don't know about the "Ve...   Oct 4 2005, 08:50 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 08:50 PM) Wel...   Oct 4 2005, 08:59 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Oct 4 2005, 03:50 PM) Wel...   Oct 4 2005, 09:03 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Oct 4 2005, 09:03 PM)I a...   Oct 4 2005, 10:21 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 4 2005, 03:21 PM)It als...   Oct 4 2005, 10:41 PM
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|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Oct 4 2005, 05:53 PM)Well, ...   Oct 5 2005, 04:04 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 5 2005, 09:04 AM)The Ve...   Oct 5 2005, 04:42 PM
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- - RNeuhaus   How does the Venus has some kind of rain when the ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:11 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Oct 5 2005, 09:11 PM)How do...   Oct 5 2005, 09:13 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 5 2005, 10:13 PM)There ...   Oct 5 2005, 09:49 PM
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|- - Bob Shaw   Lovely image! Bob Shaw   Oct 8 2005, 06:10 PM
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|- - JRehling   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 9 2006, 07:08 AM)Very d...   Jan 9 2006, 08:29 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jan 9 2006, 08:29 PM)While ...   Jan 9 2006, 08:34 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jan 9 2006, 09:34 PM)I have...   Jan 9 2006, 11:10 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Jan 9 2006, 11:10 PM)Or eve...   Jan 9 2006, 11:12 PM
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|- - paxdan   Looks to me that if you flipped the rock over it m...   Jan 11 2006, 04:02 PM
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|- - DFinfrock   Don, Those old Venera images were always apprecia...   Sep 12 2006, 01:03 AM
- - DonPMitchell   Thanks, it was an afterthought really, but I'm...   Sep 12 2006, 01:28 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 11 2006, 06:28 ...   Sep 12 2006, 04:40 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 11 2006, 09:40 PM...   Sep 12 2006, 06:26 AM
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||- - DonPMitchell   The images were originally 800 x 600, and the sky ...   Sep 12 2006, 11:42 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 11 2006, 11:26 ...   Sep 12 2006, 01:57 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Sep 12 2006, 06:57 AM...   Sep 12 2006, 03:56 PM
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- - Tayfun Öner   A quicktime VR would be nice.   Sep 12 2006, 06:21 PM
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