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Victoria - working names of features
jamescanvin
post Sep 21 2006, 02:49 AM
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Very soon smile.gif we're going to have a hell of a lot of features of Victoria to discuss, so I think it's about time we had some way of telling each other which bits we are talking about. (A bit like naming craters Alpha, Beta.. Zeta, etc)

I know Stu started to label a few features, but only a few, and there are A LOT!

I've tried to divide Victoria into logical sections and given each a letter. Then within each region I've numbered each point of the rim that appears to bend in the opposite way to the curve of the crater, hence numbering "Capes". Some are quite subtle and therefore may not be seen very well in reality but I think it's better to have them all in there.

Here is the map, it is externally linked so should be updated with the latest version. (Now updated with the (half scale) HiRise image)



(Click image for larger version, ~400kB)

So:
A1 is Cape Verde
A2 is The Beacon
P4 is Cabo Frio
and as of the 943 drive we can see the far rim between E2 and K1.

Of course I'm sure that some of the more prominent features will soon acquire more meaningful names, but this should still help us all follow what we're all talking about!

Bays are given the same designation as the cape on there 'clockwise side', thus most of the major bays (which tend to separate lettered regions) then have a "1" designation (making the rule easier to remember). Bay A1, where Oppy is heading first is Duck Bay and the bay that Fredk has measured the slope of is Bay I1. Most of the major bays are marked in red.

JPL's names are also added, as are their numbered capes and bays - in square brackets.
Informal UMSF names are added within round brackets.

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post Sep 21 2006, 04:02 PM
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I think all the features should be named for all the diehards in both forums who talk about The Rovers and their Journeys and Discoveries. It would be great to honor us all. biggrin.gif

Just imagine seeing Tesheiner Ridge, fredk outlook, Horton's viewpoint, Stu Ripples down at the bottom, Doug's overhang or jamescanvin Coffee Stop at Beacon??? LOL

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post Sep 21 2006, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Bobby @ Sep 21 2006, 05:02 PM) *
I think all the features should be named for all the diehards in both forums who talk about The Rovers and their Journeys and Discoveries. It would be great to honor us all. biggrin.gif

Just imagine seeing Tesheiner Ridge, fredk outlook, Horton's viewpoint, Stu Ripples down at the bottom, Doug's overhang or jamescanvin Coffee Stop at Beacon??? LOL


I'm with you on that Bobby! Also, I seem to remember after Stu pointed out the interesting south-west bays, some possible gullies, interesting overhangs and some other features, that someone else suggested at least one being named "Stu's inlets" (or ramps, bays, whatever they were being referred to at the time.) Can't find the post though... this was a quite a few months back, IIRC.

IMO A1, B1 etc are (a) very dull, (cool.gif entirely arbitrary ( c) forgettable (d) no fun! smile.gif These are "informal" names after all, it's not as if it really means anything except here on UMSF, for the next few days/weeks until we learn the official names. Also, a semi-objective way to allocate names would be by total number of posts... eg. on the route map thread, that gives us the following candidate names:

Tesheiner
djellison
dilo
Bill Harris
Sunspot
Phil Stooke
RNeuhaus
CosmicRocker
Pando
dot.dk
jamescanvin
climber
Shaka
gregp1962
alan
ElkGroveDan
mhoward
Bob Shaw
Toma B
algorimancer
OWW
SigurRosFan
paxdan
ustrax
dvandorn
ToSeek
lyford
Nirgal
TheChemist
marswiggle
hortonheardawho
[... etc ..]

...which would all look good with 'Cape' or 'Bay' after them.


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post Sep 21 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (imipak @ Sep 21 2006, 09:25 PM) *
Tesheiner
djellison
dilo
Bill Harris
Sunspot
Phil Stooke
RNeuhaus
CosmicRocker
Pando
dot.dk
jamescanvin
climber
Shaka
gregp1962
alan
ElkGroveDan
mhoward
Bob Shaw
Toma B
algorimancer
OWW
SigurRosFan
paxdan
ustrax
dvandorn
ToSeek
lyford
Nirgal
TheChemist
marswiggle
hortonheardawho
[... etc ..]
...which would all look good with 'Cape' or 'Bay' after them.


Can also be sorted out by :
+ near or far rimers biggrin.gif
+ bet before or after arrival at VC wink.gif


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- jamescanvin   Victoria - working names of features   Sep 21 2006, 02:49 AM
- - Bill Harris   Works for me, James. --Bill   Sep 21 2006, 02:55 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Coincidentally, Mark Adler (who has been doing a n...   Sep 21 2006, 03:05 AM
- - fredk   James, I was just trying to think of a temporary n...   Sep 21 2006, 03:12 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 21 2006, 01:12 PM) Jam...   Sep 21 2006, 03:32 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 21 2006, 03:32 A...   Sep 21 2006, 05:56 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 21 2006, 01:32 P...   Sep 21 2006, 06:02 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 21 2006, 06:02 A...   Sep 21 2006, 03:32 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 21 2006, 02:49 A...   Sep 21 2006, 05:30 AM
- - Bill Harris   Cape and Bay works, too. We can adopt a temporary...   Sep 21 2006, 10:24 AM
- - Castor   Does anybody know when the clean (i.e. unlabelled)...   Sep 21 2006, 12:06 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Castor @ Sep 21 2006, 12:06 PM) Do...   Sep 22 2006, 05:35 AM
- - Tesheiner   For a date I don't know for sure; there was ta...   Sep 21 2006, 02:08 PM
- - Bobby   I think all the features should be named for all t...   Sep 21 2006, 04:02 PM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (Bobby @ Sep 21 2006, 05:02 PM) I t...   Sep 21 2006, 07:25 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (imipak @ Sep 21 2006, 09:25 PM) Te...   Sep 21 2006, 08:21 PM
- - Stu   With all due respect to our Boss, I'm not enti...   Sep 21 2006, 04:14 PM
- - Gray   Don't forget Bobby. (After all it was his sugg...   Sep 21 2006, 07:34 PM
- - djellison   Actually - I think we're going down a bit of a...   Sep 21 2006, 08:27 PM
|- - climber   Agree, as I wrote on "Duck Bay" topic, I...   Sep 21 2006, 09:46 PM
- - gregp1962   Names do sounds more personal. (Though, I would al...   Sep 22 2006, 05:20 AM
- - jamescanvin   Thanks for pointing me at your cleaned up image ag...   Sep 22 2006, 05:53 AM
- - MizarKey   Right! I'm staking a claim to the ledge th...   Sep 22 2006, 06:12 AM
- - Stu   QUOTE (MizarKey @ Sep 22 2006, 06:12 AM) ...   Sep 22 2006, 08:58 AM
- - climber   Once we'll have a good shot of them, I'll ...   Sep 22 2006, 09:21 AM
- - jamescanvin   Here are the labeled Victoria maps using Dilo...   Sep 23 2006, 03:58 AM
- - Stu   Thanks James, they're going to be invaluable i...   Sep 23 2006, 07:15 AM
- - Nix   Absolutely! Good work, I made a print of that ...   Sep 23 2006, 07:58 AM
- - Stu   Okay, just to kill some time here before something...   Sep 23 2006, 08:20 AM
|- - climber   I'll keep the Magellan proposition because : 1...   Sep 23 2006, 09:21 AM
|- - angel1801   This is my very first post in any MER related foru...   Sep 23 2006, 09:25 AM
- - Stu   I agree with all your points I'm not suggest...   Sep 23 2006, 09:24 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 23 2006, 11:24 AM) I agr...   Sep 23 2006, 09:54 AM
|- - mars loon   Marco, James beautiful map and labeling scheme. ...   Sep 23 2006, 10:57 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Welcome to the MER corner, angel1801. I think eve...   Sep 24 2006, 05:01 AM
- - CosmicRocker   I originally came to this thread to post a suggest...   Sep 24 2006, 05:26 AM
|- - angel1801   I think ethnic groups get enough places for them a...   Sep 24 2006, 05:36 AM
||- - volcanopele   QUOTE (angel1801 @ Sep 23 2006, 10:36 PM)...   Sep 24 2006, 04:27 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (CosmicRocker @ Sep 24 2006, 03:26 ...   Sep 24 2006, 06:36 AM
- - gregp1962   Doug, I'm thinking that it would a good to hav...   Sep 24 2006, 05:46 AM
- - Stu   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 24 2006, 06:36 A...   Sep 24 2006, 06:57 AM
|- - jamescanvin   Thanks Stu, if you liked that, you'll love thi...   Sep 24 2006, 08:52 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 24 2006, 08:52 A...   Sep 24 2006, 11:43 PM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (mars loon @ Sep 25 2006, 09:43 AM)...   Sep 25 2006, 12:01 AM
- - Stu   Very nice... Don't know about anyone else,...   Sep 24 2006, 09:09 AM
- - fredk   James, that last Duck Bay view is superb - thanks...   Sep 24 2006, 04:20 PM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 24 2006, 06:20 AM) Stu...   Sep 24 2006, 07:06 PM
|- - diane   QUOTE (Shaka @ Sep 24 2006, 03:06 PM) It ...   Sep 24 2006, 07:20 PM
- - Reckless   Thanks James that latest Duck Bay with labels is g...   Sep 24 2006, 04:32 PM
- - jamescanvin   I've updated the maps so that north is at the ...   Sep 25 2006, 02:52 AM
|- - Zeke4ther   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 24 2006, 10:52 P...   Sep 25 2006, 07:58 PM
- - Stu   I've just started reading RED MARS (yes, again...   Sep 25 2006, 09:44 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Stu @ Sep 25 2006, 07:44 PM) I...   Sep 25 2006, 09:31 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 25 2006, 09:31 P...   Sep 26 2006, 09:53 AM
|- - MahFL   I have read all the books   Sep 26 2006, 12:07 PM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (MahFL @ Sep 26 2006, 01:07 PM) I h...   Sep 26 2006, 03:53 PM
|- - mhoward   Has this been noticed?   Sep 26 2006, 09:23 PM
- - akuo   Too bad the trilogy goes down the drain after abou...   Sep 26 2006, 12:28 PM
- - volcanopele   hehe, mhoward, confusion reigns! The MOC and ...   Sep 26 2006, 09:53 PM
|- - mhoward   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Sep 26 2006, 09:53 P...   Sep 26 2006, 10:02 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Sep 26 2006, 10:53 P...   Sep 26 2006, 10:13 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (mhoward @ Sep 26 2006, 10:02 PM) T...   Sep 26 2006, 10:25 PM
- - jamescanvin   Hmm, I don't think confusion does reign. It...   Sep 26 2006, 10:27 PM
|- - Castor   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 26 2006, 11:27 P...   Sep 27 2006, 09:44 AM
- - volcanopele   Well, there is always confusion for a bit when swi...   Sep 26 2006, 10:32 PM
- - jamescanvin   Well I'll add JPL's names to my map and th...   Sep 26 2006, 11:07 PM
- - fredk   I think we should definitely continue using James...   Sep 26 2006, 11:08 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 26 2006, 06:08 PM) I t...   Sep 27 2006, 02:26 AM
||- - Pavel   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Sep 26 2006, 10:26 PM) ...   Sep 27 2006, 02:39 AM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 27 2006, 01:08 AM) It...   Sep 27 2006, 06:52 AM
- - jamescanvin   Just to add to fredk's point 2. If JPL continu...   Sep 27 2006, 12:01 AM
- - jamescanvin   New versions using the clean MOC image that has ju...   Sep 27 2006, 07:28 AM
|- - Zeke4ther   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 27 2006, 03:28 A...   Sep 27 2006, 03:17 PM
- - climber   May I add a suggestion? Why don't we call one ...   Sep 27 2006, 07:33 PM
- - jamescanvin   New version using the HiRise image (at half resolu...   Oct 11 2006, 01:48 AM
|- - jamescanvin   Fixed now.   Oct 12 2006, 02:05 AM
- - Floyd   Fantastic job James! A couple of minor points...   Oct 11 2006, 11:49 AM
- - jamescanvin   I'm glad someone was paying attention. I...   Oct 12 2006, 12:04 AM
- - MizarKey   I went looking, but couldn't find if they...   Nov 10 2006, 01:28 AM
- - jamescanvin   I don't think so. AFAIK it has only been menti...   Nov 10 2006, 01:40 AM
- - Bill Harris   Is there a convention for designating of naming th...   Nov 10 2006, 02:56 AM
- - jamescanvin   Yes, bays are given the same designation as the ca...   Nov 10 2006, 03:13 AM
- - fredk   Yes there is a convention - we decided to name the...   Nov 10 2006, 03:14 AM
- - Bill Harris   Ok, Thank you thank you... --Bill   Nov 10 2006, 11:29 AM


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