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Getting into Victoria crater, Finding the right place & knowing Oppy's abilities
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post Sep 27 2006, 08:01 PM
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We'll not know all the possible places to rove down into Victoria before having a complete view from different angles. Anyway, we can already see that the far rim slopes look very sandy and can only hope the near rim behave better. It's not only a matter of % of the slopes but also about drivability i.e. hard surface instead of sand. Most of the discussions with the pictures we have today are about going/not going inside. I thought we need a thread for this and also think that we can post here all the studies and teh video that have been done when Oppy was about to enter Endurance.
As a start, and to challenge the idea, I (re)post what I think could be a ramp to enter the crater. It's situated in the bleu F1 Bay in James' map. The reason is that the ramp look rocky as compared to all the other ramps visible on the far rim. There's also a lot of rocks to study instead of going nowhere.
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post Sep 28 2006, 01:48 AM
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The views are spectacular, but that's not what the mission is about. Understanding the geology is Opportunity's purpose. The geology is not likely to change from spot to spot along the crater. The best science will be gained by going deeper - not around. It's my opinion that a good entrance should not be passed up.

Having said that...

It is starting to look like there might be some very steep angles in some of the layers of some of the outcrops.

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...ost&id=7727

Nix posted that in another thread. If it is true that we are seeing angled layers, that would be very interesting to unravel...

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- climber   Getting into Victoria crater   Sep 27 2006, 08:01 PM
- - RNeuhaus   That ramp would look interesting to be inspected. ...   Sep 27 2006, 08:18 PM
- - BrianL   I think there are better choices on the near rim i...   Sep 27 2006, 08:23 PM
- - kenny   Everything I've seen so far looks terribly ste...   Sep 27 2006, 08:27 PM
|- - sranderson   QUOTE (kenny @ Sep 27 2006, 02:27 PM) The...   Sep 27 2006, 10:22 PM
- - Jeff7   How about something like this? Check out the slope...   Sep 27 2006, 09:42 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   This kind of surface is of outcrop along with a li...   Sep 27 2006, 09:55 PM
- - djellison   I think a partial circumnavigation ( even if it in...   Sep 27 2006, 10:32 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2006, 06:32 PM)...   Sep 27 2006, 11:41 PM
||- - sranderson   There will certainly be an abundance of caution, i...   Sep 28 2006, 01:22 AM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (sranderson @ Sep 28 2006, 02:22 AM...   Sep 28 2006, 07:41 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 27 2006, 05:32 PM)...   Sep 28 2006, 04:50 AM
- - Bill Harris   I'll agree with Doug. Into Victoria at this p...   Sep 27 2006, 10:49 PM
- - diane   As I sometimes need to remind myself, context is (...   Sep 28 2006, 01:44 AM
- - Edward Schmitz   The views are spectacular, but that's not what...   Sep 28 2006, 01:48 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (Edward Schmitz @ Sep 28 2006, 01:4...   Sep 28 2006, 04:36 AM
- - diane   Angled layers pretty much mean one of two things, ...   Sep 28 2006, 04:20 AM
- - nprev   Diane, hear hear...I think that an extremely conse...   Sep 28 2006, 04:56 AM
- - CosmicRocker   There is still a lot to consider about this crater...   Sep 28 2006, 06:19 AM
- - Tesheiner   Remember that a hypotetical entry ramp will be con...   Sep 28 2006, 07:04 AM
- - diane   To clarify on a couple of things, yes, I do want t...   Sep 28 2006, 11:36 AM
- - centsworth_II   There is no reason that GOING IN needs to be such ...   Sep 28 2006, 02:13 PM
|- - diane   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Sep 28 2006, 10:13...   Sep 28 2006, 02:39 PM
- - Burmese   I think they will navigate less than 1/2 way and p...   Sep 28 2006, 02:15 PM
- - Phillip   Here is what today's Washington Post article h...   Sep 28 2006, 02:21 PM
|- - Pando   QUOTE (Phillip @ Sep 28 2006, 07:21 AM) H...   Sep 28 2006, 04:12 PM
- - Pando   The other issue is how far... The other side is at...   Sep 28 2006, 04:10 PM
- - djellison   Another finger into the pie of decision making Wo...   Sep 28 2006, 04:14 PM
|- - JRehling   Are the north cliffs even in daylight or do we hav...   Sep 28 2006, 04:32 PM
||- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (JRehling @ Sep 28 2006, 11:32 AM) ...   Sep 28 2006, 06:30 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 28 2006, 12:14 PM)...   Sep 28 2006, 09:51 PM
- - atomoid   Now we have officialy 'arrived' and can se...   Sep 28 2006, 05:37 PM
- - Myran   I agree with you Burmese, personally I would consi...   Sep 28 2006, 05:56 PM
- - alan   Getting in at Duck Bay may look easy but what abou...   Sep 28 2006, 07:21 PM


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