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PhilHorzempa
post May 4 2006, 03:05 AM
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I thought that it was time to start up a discussion of what we know, or
would like to know, about the Soviet Luna Missions.

To start off, I have heard many a reference to the landing system utilized
by the early landers, such as Luna 9. However, I have yet to find a report,
or even a diagram, that shows the sequence of events, or such details as
the air bags. If such references do not exist, I hope that some of the UMSF
community have Russian contacts that could lead us to the source material
before it ends up in the dust bin of history.

In addition, I heard of an effort several years ago to obtain ALL of the imagery
from Lunakhods 1 and 2. Does anyone know if that effort was able to
secure that data?

Also, as far as Lunas 15, 18 and 23, the sample-return missions that didn't
quite make it home, are there any official reports "out there" that detail what
actually occurred to those missions? Or will we have to wait for the
high-resolution images from the LRO to determine their fates?


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post Sep 29 2006, 02:27 PM
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My guess is they were not published, but film recordings were made and are in someone's drawer at RNII KP, scratched up and gathering dust.
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karolp
post Oct 20 2006, 03:30 PM
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Hi,

I recently encountered a Polish space encyclopedia titled "Copernicus, Astronomy, Astronautics" which contained a colour picture of Earth above Moon's horizon from Zond spacecraft, similar to the one recently reprocessed here. But what really caught my attention was information on Luna 15 spacecraft, which coincided with Apollo 11 landing on the Moon:

Luna 15 in Wiki

It states apolune of Luna 15 was 110 km, similar to that of the orbital module of Apollo 11 - so was there any collision hazard issue there? I was also wondering, could it actually be sighted by astronauts on the ground? And if not, did any other astronauts during other Apollo missions actually observe artifical satellites circling the Moon at that time?

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Karol P.

Edit:

The Polish Wikipedia entry:

Lunokhod in Polish Wiki

states that a launcher carrying a Lunokhod even before Lunokhod 1, designated Lunokhod 201, crashed soon after lift off on Februray 19, 1969 indicating an abvious attempt by the Soviets to place a rover on the Moon before the American manned mission. So was it really a theme of interference with Apollo and stealing the publicity even though their manned Lunar program collapsed?


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- PhilHorzempa   Soviet Luna Missions   May 4 2006, 03:05 AM
- - DonPMitchell   My guess is they were not published, but film reco...   Sep 29 2006, 02:27 PM
|- - karolp   Hi, I recently encountered a Polish space encyclo...   Oct 20 2006, 03:30 PM
- - slava   Hello:) From Ural with cosmic love, special 4 us, ...   Nov 5 2007, 01:26 PM
- - Toma B   Ups Google Error 403 Forbidden   Nov 5 2007, 02:27 PM
- - John Whitehead   Regarding the Luna 16, 20, and 24 sample returns, ...   Nov 14 2007, 12:10 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (John Whitehead @ Nov 13 2007, 07:1...   Nov 16 2007, 04:51 PM
- - kenny   The capsule was certainly not 3 feet in diameter. ...   Nov 16 2007, 09:27 AM
|- - John Whitehead   QUOTE (kenny @ Nov 16 2007, 09:27 AM) The...   Nov 21 2007, 06:57 PM
- - peter59   I checked today the old broken link, and met me a ...   Oct 6 2009, 06:36 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (peter59 @ Oct 6 2009, 08:36 PM) Lu...   Oct 6 2009, 06:43 PM
||- - SFJCody   I wonder what prompted this release?   Oct 6 2009, 07:28 PM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (SFJCody @ Oct 6 2009, 02:28 PM) I ...   Oct 6 2009, 07:46 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (peter59 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:36 AM) I ...   Oct 6 2009, 07:39 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Oct 6 2009, 02:39 PM...   Oct 7 2009, 02:44 PM
- - Phil Stooke   They have been talking about this for years. When...   Oct 6 2009, 07:43 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   What a nice surprise! I can't wait to try ...   Oct 7 2009, 09:16 AM
- - marswiggle   Panoramas 12 and 13 in that link (click page 3) se...   Oct 7 2009, 01:46 PM
|- - Poolio   QUOTE (marswiggle @ Oct 7 2009, 09:46 AM)...   Oct 7 2009, 03:08 PM
- - ngunn   That is fantastic, marswiggle, thanks a million. W...   Oct 7 2009, 02:46 PM
- - imipak   Fantastic stuff - I'm showing my age, no doubt...   Oct 7 2009, 04:12 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (imipak @ Oct 7 2009, 11:12 AM) I w...   Oct 7 2009, 04:17 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Yes, that is Alexander (Sasha) Basilevsky, a veter...   Oct 7 2009, 05:33 PM
- - Astro0   Wow, these images are incredible. Imagine if we (U...   Oct 8 2009, 03:52 AM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Astro0 @ Oct 7 2009, 10:52 PM) 1) ...   Oct 8 2009, 04:48 PM
|- - Gsnorgathon   QUOTE (stevesliva @ Oct 8 2009, 08:48 AM)...   Oct 8 2009, 08:25 PM
- - antipode   Wow Astro0 that is an absolutely stunning image on...   Oct 8 2009, 09:24 AM
|- - MahFL   Can anyone tell us how far away and how high those...   Oct 8 2009, 01:37 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Different parts of the rim of Le Monnier crater ar...   Oct 8 2009, 03:07 PM
- - dilo   Really impressive work, Astro0. The expresion ...   Oct 8 2009, 05:40 PM
- - Astro0   Dilo asked: Where did you take the spacecraft deta...   Oct 8 2009, 09:15 PM
|- - dilo   Thanks for the answer, Astro0.   Oct 9 2009, 03:47 PM
- - peter59   I checked today link to "Laboratory for compa...   Oct 12 2009, 03:55 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (peter59 @ Oct 12 2009, 05:55 PM) L...   Oct 12 2009, 05:20 PM
- - Paolo   I had never noticed that many of the side camera p...   Oct 12 2009, 07:02 PM
- - elakdawalla   I just got a few diagrams from Sasha Basilevsky th...   Oct 21 2009, 06:47 PM
- - Hungry4info   I'm pretty sure the last one was used, but I a...   Oct 21 2009, 07:57 PM
- - elakdawalla   So does that mean - they had a 30 degree field of ...   Oct 21 2009, 08:24 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The overlap area at the back, if any, is probably ...   Oct 21 2009, 08:49 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This is a comparison of one of the new Lunokhod 1 ...   Oct 24 2009, 09:11 PM
- - ngunn   I'd been wondering if anyone was working on th...   Oct 24 2009, 09:40 PM
- - peter59   Information for those who know Russian language. T...   Dec 18 2009, 10:33 AM
|- - tedstryk   THANKS!!!!!   Dec 18 2009, 08:20 PM
- - kenny   This Luna 20 photo has been seen elsewhere, and ...   Mar 19 2011, 04:47 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The mirror image business complicates all interpre...   Mar 19 2011, 07:22 PM
- - kenny   Close up of the dril hole area, from a better phot...   Mar 19 2011, 08:45 PM
|- - tedstryk   I made mosaics with the fragments I could find. ...   Mar 20 2011, 12:14 AM
- - kenny   Very nice panos. The pair on your blog illustrate...   Mar 20 2011, 01:58 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Kenny asked me this question privately, but I thou...   Mar 23 2011, 04:14 PM
- - Explorer1   I suppose this is as good a place as any to ask; h...   Mar 24 2011, 06:39 AM
|- - Shan   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Mar 24 2011, 12:09 PM)...   Nov 4 2020, 02:38 PM
- - Hungry4info   Hasn't been found as far as I know, and I woul...   Mar 24 2011, 07:52 AM
- - kenny   No problem re Luna 20, Phil. Rather than post it p...   Mar 24 2011, 09:37 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Looking ahead to the next Russian missions... Ch...   Apr 3 2011, 06:27 PM
- - Paolo   apparently a tiny Luna 16 sample is to be auctione...   Nov 4 2018, 07:57 PM
- - Steve G   Some good news about Russia's Luna 25, that it...   Jul 7 2020, 03:40 PM
- - Paolo   check out this Roskosmos release for the 50th anni...   Oct 27 2020, 08:14 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Paolo @ Oct 27 2020, 09:14 PM) che...   Nov 16 2020, 09:22 AM
|- - Shan   QUOTE (Paolo @ Nov 16 2020, 02:52 PM) and...   Nov 17 2020, 02:46 AM
- - Paolo   I have grabbed from one of the videos in the previ...   Oct 28 2020, 01:04 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Interesting! They seem new to me, but the fir...   Oct 28 2020, 04:17 PM
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