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post Dec 25 2006, 12:15 AM
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Anybody know if there's to be a naming of names for MSL? If so, I'd just like to propose an unimpeachable candidate moniker: Sagan (Carl to his friends). smile.gif

I know that the MPF lander was named in his honor, but for some reason the name never stuck with the public in the same way that Sojourner, Spirit, and Opportunity did; perhaps we tend to anthropomorphize rovers more than fixed landers. In that light, MSL will hopefully spend many years exploring Mars much as Sagan did; what could be more fitting?


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post Jan 1 2007, 02:54 AM
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I can dig it, Jim...but there are two excellent reasons to name major missions:

1. Public outreach. This is something that NASA has consistently underestimated in significance, but they're getting hip- no bucks, no Buck Rogers. While aficionados like myself & professionals like you may prefer functional nomenclature for its brevity & precision, the press likes sound bites, the catchier & easier the better. Sad fact of life, man. wink.gif

2. History/heraldry. UMSF is making major tracks in the history books. Hopefully, its contributions will be recognized as even more important over the next few hundred years as we (hopefully) expand human presence throughout the Solar System. Therefore, it is entirely appropriate to name these robotic pioneers after the human pioneers that laid the foundation for these critical voyages, or the ideals/concepts that represent the best of our collective human spirit.


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- nprev   MSL Naming?   Dec 25 2006, 12:15 AM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 25 2006, 12:15 AM) Any...   Dec 25 2006, 12:27 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Dec 25 2006, 01:27 AM) ...   Dec 25 2006, 08:57 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (climber @ Dec 25 2006, 08:57 PM) B...   Dec 25 2006, 10:15 PM
- - nprev   You forgot Heinlein (Red Planet)! Come to tha...   Dec 25 2006, 12:37 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 25 2006, 12:37 AM) You...   Dec 25 2006, 12:45 AM
- - nprev   Yeah...if we ever send another pair of rovers, I...   Dec 25 2006, 12:52 AM
- - edstrick   Tars Tarkas and Deja Thoris. And there's alway...   Dec 25 2006, 08:17 AM
- - tty   How come nobody has even mentioned Schiaparelli? ...   Dec 25 2006, 04:49 PM
- - nprev   Oh, great; if we do that, then we'll have to f...   Dec 25 2006, 08:05 PM
- - dvandorn   Since MSL will travel faster than the MERs and Soj...   Dec 26 2006, 03:14 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 26 2006, 03:14 AM) ...   Dec 26 2006, 05:17 PM
- - Steve   Off hand, I imagine NASA will follow past patterns...   Dec 27 2006, 01:33 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Steve @ Dec 26 2006, 05:33 PM) The...   Dec 27 2006, 01:58 AM
|- - JonClarke   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 27 2006, 01:58 AM) H...   Dec 27 2006, 07:18 AM
|- - MahFL   My late grandad served in the LRDG . He did not di...   Dec 27 2006, 03:36 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (JonClarke @ Dec 27 2006, 02:18 AM)...   Dec 27 2006, 04:50 PM
- - edstrick   Amen, though perhaps Bagnold might be a good name ...   Dec 27 2006, 11:14 AM
- - JonClarke   Glad that Bagnold meets with approval However, if...   Dec 28 2006, 01:04 AM
- - lyford   RALPH (Roving Analytic Laboratory Pursuing Hydroca...   Dec 28 2006, 08:25 PM
|- - JonClarke   QUOTE (lyford @ Dec 28 2006, 08:25 PM) RA...   Dec 29 2006, 12:11 AM
|- - ustrax   I would go for a more general name like Spirit and...   Dec 29 2006, 04:42 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (ustrax @ Dec 29 2006, 04:42 PM) ...   Dec 29 2006, 10:56 PM
|- - ustrax   MSL?... Michelle, no doubt about it... [MiSheLle...   Dec 30 2006, 04:41 PM
- - nprev   Ambulatory Laboratory for In-situ Carbon Compound ...   Dec 28 2006, 08:45 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 28 2006, 08:45 PM) Amb...   Dec 28 2006, 11:34 PM
- - nprev   Carbon And Regolith Laboratory/Semi-Autonomous Gro...   Dec 28 2006, 11:45 PM
- - tty   Basic Ambulatory Robot Seeking Out Organic Molecul...   Dec 29 2006, 06:55 PM
- - Jim from NSF.com   I perfer no name other than the project name. MSL...   Jan 1 2007, 12:28 AM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Jim from NSF.com @ Dec 31 2006, 07...   Jan 1 2007, 06:11 PM
|- - monitorlizard   QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Jan 1 2007, 12:11 ...   Jan 1 2007, 07:38 PM
- - nprev   I can dig it, Jim...but there are two excellent re...   Jan 1 2007, 02:54 AM
- - nprev   Congratulations on the worst pun of 2007 thus far....   Jan 1 2007, 08:53 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 1 2007, 08:53 PM) Cong...   Jan 1 2007, 10:36 PM
- - Ant103   I think to "Hope" for MSL naming. It...   Feb 14 2007, 04:12 PM
- - Zvezdichko   We already had one Hope - JAXA's Nozomi.   Feb 14 2007, 04:30 PM
- - Geographer   How about Feynman? I always enjoyed his book, Sur...   Jun 21 2007, 09:55 AM
- - dvandorn   I would actually prefer MSL be named after a ship ...   Jun 21 2007, 04:08 PM
- - Stu   Not a chance of it being used, but "Serenity...   Jun 21 2007, 04:23 PM
- - djellison   They can call it BunwhacketbuzzardstoppingQWalrusT...   Jun 21 2007, 05:08 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 21 2007, 06:08 PM)...   Jun 21 2007, 06:24 PM
||- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 21 2007, 08:24 AM) I had...   Jun 21 2007, 07:19 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jun 21 2007, 08:19...   Jun 21 2007, 07:21 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 21 2007, 12:08 PM)...   Jun 22 2007, 12:20 AM
- - djellison   I see you need to be taught in the ways of Python....   Jun 21 2007, 07:12 PM
- - Stu   Funny you should mention Python... I was talking t...   Jun 21 2007, 07:19 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Actually, I prefer Mr. Peabody and Sherman.   Jun 21 2007, 08:14 PM
- - nprev   Based on MSL's monster-truck-like aspects, I...   Jun 21 2007, 10:58 PM
- - dvandorn   Now, opening up the Rocky and Bullwinkle universe ...   Jun 22 2007, 12:27 AM
- - djellison   'Crushinator' could be good.   Jun 22 2007, 07:27 AM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 22 2007, 08:27 AM)...   Jun 22 2007, 08:15 AM
- - algorimancer   I'd back Serenity or Heinlein or Feynman as na...   Jun 22 2007, 01:23 PM
- - centsworth_II   I guess Bigfoot is taken.   Jun 22 2007, 02:40 PM
- - hendric   Oh come on, that's not fair at all. Having ...   Jun 22 2007, 03:14 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   How about Ark III? Of course, fans of 1970s TV ...   Jun 22 2007, 06:07 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jun 22 2007, 02:07...   Jun 23 2007, 05:37 AM
- - MarsIsImportant   After seeing the size of the rover scarecrow, it s...   Jun 24 2007, 01:53 AM
- - elakdawalla   As in Inspector Gadget? (That's what I think...   Jun 24 2007, 02:01 AM
|- - punkboi   "Dumb" and "Dumber" would...   Jun 24 2007, 03:06 AM
- - monty python   Even though Married With Children IS one of the gr...   Jun 24 2007, 04:59 AM
- - TheChemist   Probably MSL will end up being called something po...   Jun 24 2007, 12:39 PM
- - lyford   How about the Dakota-Sioux word for "Great...   Jun 24 2007, 05:19 PM
- - helvick   I love it! Tonka is easily the best name sugge...   Jun 24 2007, 05:24 PM
- - nprev   ...it's too perfect, so of course it won't...   Jun 24 2007, 06:27 PM
- - punkboi   How 'bout obscure sci-fi movie references? ...   Jun 24 2007, 07:15 PM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (punkboi @ Jun 24 2007, 08:15 PM) ...   Jun 24 2007, 07:46 PM
- - mchan   Gee, if people are starting to put in sci-fi refer...   Jun 25 2007, 06:30 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (mchan @ Jun 24 2007, 10:30 PM) Gee...   Jun 25 2007, 04:52 PM
- - dvandorn   Well, heck -- if we're talking about a rolling...   Jun 25 2007, 02:09 PM
- - akuo   How about OGRE?   Jun 25 2007, 02:20 PM
- - centsworth_II   I liked Tonka, but if you're looking for somet...   Jun 25 2007, 03:27 PM
- - TheChemist   The naming of probes is a difficult matter, ...   Jun 25 2007, 03:52 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (TheChemist @ Jun 25 2007, 11:52 AM...   Jun 25 2007, 04:33 PM
- - dvandorn   Ah, but if you were to name MSL the Hannibal 8, af...   Jun 25 2007, 05:04 PM
- - lyford   OGRE?!?!? Push the button, Max?!?...   Jun 26 2007, 04:04 AM
- - dvandorn   OK, well -- it wouldn't be much of an improvem...   Jun 26 2007, 04:19 AM
- - lyford   Hmmm, would Adam West be involved in that somehow?...   Jun 26 2007, 05:19 AM
- - akuo   Or we can go the Iain M. Banks way. Some examples:...   Jun 26 2007, 07:28 AM
- - algorimancer   QUOTE (akuo @ Jun 26 2007, 02:28 AM) Or w...   Jun 26 2007, 04:59 PM


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