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paxdan
post Jul 12 2006, 09:37 AM
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There are some gorgeous crescent saturn images coming down in the raws at the moment.

You can really see how oblate saturn is.
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ElkGroveDan
post Feb 5 2007, 04:01 AM
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Ian this is great work. For some reason people have been somewhat shy of processing the Saturn images. I am glad you have stepped up to the plate and really taken on this task. Keep up the good work.

EDIT: My wife who isn't all that interested in my UMSF hobby, just glanced over my shoulder and declared "Oh, now that's nice."


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post Feb 5 2007, 11:36 AM
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This is some fine work you're putting out Ian! The only comment I have is the output is a bit too blue-tinted. My goofing around with VIMS spectrometer data (check out the lower Saturn pic here, it's a similar viewpoint) to get more accurate colors basically suggests a "true color" appearance very similar to this CICLOPS view, though the saturation in that image might be a bit too high.


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Ian R
post Feb 5 2007, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 5 2007, 11:36 AM) *
This is some fine work you're putting out Ian! The only comment I have is the output is a bit too blue-tinted. My goofing around with VIMS spectrometer data (check out the lower Saturn pic here, it's a similar viewpoint) to get more accurate colors basically suggests a "true color" appearance very similar to this CICLOPS view, though the saturation in that image might be a bit too high.


I do plan to go back and adjust the colour balance of these images at some point, so thanks for the pointer Gordon. Unfortunately, the stretching that is applied to these raw JPEGs means that two views that should have identical contrast, hue and saturation, end up all over the place.

What do you suggest is the best way to correct the colour in these images? Should I manually adjust the brightness and contrast of the B&W raws, or should I simply change the Red/Green/Blue values of the resultant composite? unsure.gif

Cheers,

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post Feb 5 2007, 09:00 PM
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When I do raw processing, I composite each footprint individually (aligning the 3 channels basically) and then paste them all into one image in Photoshop as different layers. Then comes the adjusting each footprint's color channel to match all others. Once they all match up (more or less), you can flatten the image and do brigthening/dimming of each channel to approximate the calibrated output. A calibrated output will have Saturn a dullish-yellow color, not fancy colors. You can then mix the three channels sensibly to produce a satisfactory result. Mixing will wash out saturation, but you can always increase that up later. Admittedly, it's a lot of work to work with raws and I personally kind of lost the interest to do it twice, first with raws and then do it the "proper" way once the data hits PDS.

BTW, that latest image is great! It's so Voyager-esque. In fact, you can use that moon that's visible to correct the colors a bit, make it turn white and you'll have colors closer to calibrated ones. Usually you can't rely on stuff like that, though. Did you use the violet or blue filter, this looks to me like it's violet?

Cassini spent so much time on the night side that I lost track of just how south ring shadows have actually moved.

I took the liberty of tweaking your image a bit, I hope you don't mind:

It's just way cool smile.gif


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post Feb 7 2007, 05:40 AM
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QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 5 2007, 09:00 PM) *
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BTW, that latest image is great! It's so Voyager-esque. In fact, you can use that moon that's visible to correct the colors a bit, make it turn white and you'll have colors closer to calibrated ones. Usually you can't rely on stuff like that, though. Did you use the violet or blue filter, this looks to me like it's violet?

Cassini spent so much time on the night side that I lost track of just how south ring shadows have actually moved.

I took the liberty of tweaking your image a bit, I hope you don't mind


Gordan,

Interesting indeed to read your account of assembling Cassini colour composites. With the mosaics that consist of two footprints only, my approach has always been to carefully align and join the Green raw images first, and then to use that as a geometric template for aligning the Red and Blue channels.

All of these images use RGB - I haven't actually tried the Violet filter yet, and probably wouldn't anyway, unless the Blue image was missing or corrupt. In any case, the colour adjustments you and Dilo have applied to the mosaics look great!

Cheers. cool.gif


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- paxdan   Exquisite Saturn Images   Jul 12 2006, 09:37 AM
- - nprev   Yep...some lucky tourists will pay the big bucks t...   Jul 12 2006, 03:12 PM
|- - bdunford   QUOTE (nprev @ Jul 12 2006, 09:12 AM) Yep...   Jul 12 2006, 06:39 PM
- - bdunford   The oblation is what struck me, too. What are we ...   Jul 12 2006, 06:32 PM
- - jsheff   Yes, whoever does that is an unsung hero. Notice ...   Jul 12 2006, 07:00 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (jsheff @ Jul 12 2006, 08:00 PM) No...   Jul 13 2006, 06:41 AM
- - ljk4-1   What is that little white dot at the bottom of the...   Jul 12 2006, 09:38 PM
- - MizarKey   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jul 12 2006, 02:37 AM) Th...   Jul 24 2006, 08:03 PM
- - JRehling   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jul 12 2006, 02:37 AM) Yo...   Jul 24 2006, 08:06 PM
- - paxdan   even more stunning raws can someone please stitc...   Jul 27 2006, 08:36 AM
- - djellison   Two stitches..   Jul 27 2006, 09:26 AM
|- - paxdan   Thanks Doug, is that the e-ring showing up in the ...   Jul 27 2006, 09:46 AM
|- - ynyralmaen   QUOTE (paxdan @ Jul 27 2006, 11:46 AM) Th...   Jul 27 2006, 12:32 PM
- - djellison   That would be a blue image on the left and a metha...   Jul 27 2006, 09:52 AM
|- - paxdan   Quick and very dirty   Jul 27 2006, 09:58 AM
- - djellison   Ah - you mean like this. Pity the more exotic fil...   Jul 27 2006, 10:06 AM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (djellison @ Jul 27 2006, 11:06 AM)...   Jul 27 2006, 10:38 AM
|- - dilo   Below my personal attempt to process the two wide-...   Aug 2 2006, 11:53 AM
- - Ian R   Here's the best I could do with the latest set...   Aug 2 2006, 10:04 AM
|- - Jyril   QUOTE (Ian R @ Aug 2 2006, 01:04 PM) Here...   Aug 2 2006, 08:27 PM
|- - paxdan   Crescent Saturn Image on JPL Cassini Homepage   Aug 14 2006, 02:15 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (Jyril @ Aug 2 2006, 08:27 PM) Wond...   Aug 14 2006, 05:24 PM
|- - ugordan   A dirty wide angle RGB mosaic from near the ring p...   Aug 16 2006, 04:17 PM
- - djellison   oooOOOooo   Aug 2 2006, 12:37 PM
- - volcanopele   Nice mosaic! Even though we are in a more inc...   Aug 16 2006, 07:57 PM
- - remcook   there were some nice ring images taken last time I...   Aug 17 2006, 08:46 AM
|- - ugordan   Yet another crescent pic; after periapsis and this...   Aug 20 2006, 11:36 AM
- - Ian R   Real purdy   Sep 7 2006, 08:08 AM
- - Ian R   Here's the latest six-frame mosaic: It real...   Oct 6 2006, 03:24 AM
|- - dilo   Beautiful images, Ian!   Oct 6 2006, 06:23 AM
|- - ugordan   Not exactly crescent images, but these raws are ju...   Oct 13 2006, 07:40 AM
|- - dilo   ...and now look at this: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.go...   Oct 24 2006, 07:46 PM
||- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (dilo @ Oct 24 2006, 11:46 AM) ...a...   Oct 24 2006, 07:58 PM
|||- - volcanopele   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 24 2006, 12:58 P...   Oct 24 2006, 08:05 PM
||- - Borek   QUOTE (dilo @ Oct 24 2006, 08:46 PM) ...a...   Oct 24 2006, 09:05 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (ugordan @ Oct 13 2006, 12:40 AM) S...   Oct 25 2006, 05:56 AM
|- - dilo   New amazing Saturn/rings pictures obtained on Oct,...   Oct 31 2006, 06:10 AM
|- - ugordan   Check out the terminator region on top of this ima...   Oct 31 2006, 06:03 PM
|- - dilo   Good catch, ugordan! Here below enhanced versi...   Oct 31 2006, 08:33 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (dilo @ Oct 31 2006, 08:33 PM) Good...   Nov 1 2006, 01:16 AM
|- - dilo   Absolutely yes, David. Look to this old press rele...   Nov 1 2006, 07:26 AM
||- - ugordan   Yet Another Crescent Image: Wide-angle camera RGB...   Nov 5 2006, 11:22 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (David @ Oct 31 2006, 05:16 PM) Are...   Nov 5 2006, 11:33 AM
|- - ugordan   A rather colorful north polar area on Saturn is re...   Nov 12 2006, 12:13 PM
|- - dilo   My compsitions... (WideCam, RGB) (Wide, MT2+IRP...   Nov 12 2006, 07:28 PM
|- - dilo   A manual stitch from some clear filter images take...   Dec 10 2006, 09:19 AM
- - Ian R   A preview of what I'm working on at the mome...   Jan 21 2007, 04:43 AM
- - elakdawalla   Yay! That's the Saturn shot I've been...   Jan 21 2007, 05:14 AM
- - Ian R   Emily - there's quite a bit of detail in the r...   Jan 21 2007, 09:56 AM
|- - Airbag   I quite like this RGB composite of recent images: ...   Jan 21 2007, 06:04 PM
- - Ian R   After hours of hard work (don't forget that th...   Jan 25 2007, 11:03 AM
|- - tedstryk   Wow! Extremely impressive work!   Jan 25 2007, 11:08 AM
||- - ugordan   Awesome! I didn't think the footprints wou...   Jan 25 2007, 11:25 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Looks great! One 'error' I noticed tho...   Jan 25 2007, 11:18 AM
- - jamescanvin   That is totally awesome! Great work, hard to b...   Jan 25 2007, 11:21 AM
- - remcook   cool! in the top right, are those moving moonl...   Jan 25 2007, 11:41 AM
|- - ugordan   Yep, looks like Prometheus and Pandora and either ...   Jan 25 2007, 11:45 AM
|- - dilo   Bravissimo!   Jan 25 2007, 08:08 PM
- - dvandorn   Too bad all I get is an Imageshack page with a lin...   Jan 25 2007, 09:12 PM
- - bdunford   With his permission, I've featured Ian's w...   Jan 27 2007, 01:08 AM
- - Nix   BRAVO Ian, on a magical job, it's a very inspi...   Jan 27 2007, 07:53 AM
- - mars loon   Ian, absolutely glorious !!!! I...   Jan 28 2007, 03:17 AM
- - ugordan   Apparently, the raws page houses at least two nice...   Feb 1 2007, 12:36 PM
|- - mars loon   Ian's latest version is now on Emily's blo...   Feb 1 2007, 07:18 PM
- - Ian R   I'd like to thank both Emily and Bill for kind...   Feb 1 2007, 10:28 PM
- - Ian R   Here's a very quick-and-rough colour composite...   Feb 1 2007, 11:36 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (Ian R @ Feb 1 2007, 06:36 PM) Here...   Feb 2 2007, 07:32 PM
- - dilo   Great work Ian, one more time!   Feb 2 2007, 06:32 AM
- - Stu   Stunning work Ian, many congratulations! L...   Feb 2 2007, 08:07 PM
|- - Ian R   Yes, of course Stu - go for it!   Feb 3 2007, 12:06 AM
- - Ian R   Here's another one for the album:   Feb 3 2007, 12:46 AM
- - Ian R   One more for the road...   Feb 3 2007, 01:04 AM
- - elakdawalla   I downloaded the frames for those in case I found ...   Feb 3 2007, 01:58 AM
- - Ian R   Thanks Emily. I sure the colour balance isn't ...   Feb 3 2007, 06:29 PM
|- - dilo   Poetry in space.... Ian, Bravo again! Edit: ...   Feb 3 2007, 07:22 PM
- - nprev   Ian, these are just stunning, really...incredible....   Feb 3 2007, 07:35 PM
|- - Ian R   QUOTE (nprev @ Feb 3 2007, 07:35 PM) Ian,...   Feb 4 2007, 09:27 PM
- - Ian R   I think this must be my favourite view yet:   Feb 4 2007, 08:50 PM
- - Ian R   Here's a short GIF animation showing Cassini a...   Feb 5 2007, 01:34 AM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (Ian R @ Feb 5 2007, 01:34 AM) Here...   Feb 6 2007, 04:22 AM
- - Ian R   Enhanced southern-hemipshere movie (shown in rever...   Feb 5 2007, 02:08 AM
- - jamescanvin   More amazing stuff , thanks a lot Ian. James   Feb 5 2007, 02:23 AM
- - Ian R   "Saturn in Widescreen" http://img172....   Feb 5 2007, 02:36 AM
- - Ian R   You're welcome James!   Feb 5 2007, 02:55 AM
- - ElkGroveDan   Ian this is great work. For some reason people ha...   Feb 5 2007, 04:01 AM
|- - ugordan   This is some fine work you're putting out Ian...   Feb 5 2007, 11:36 AM
|- - Ian R   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 5 2007, 11:36 AM) Th...   Feb 5 2007, 07:59 PM
|- - ugordan   When I do raw processing, I composite each footpri...   Feb 5 2007, 09:00 PM
|- - Ian R   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 5 2007, 09:00 PM) .....   Feb 7 2007, 05:40 AM
- - Ian R   A new set of colour images, with some nice views o...   Feb 5 2007, 07:40 PM
- - dilo   I taken some liberty too; still not perfectly matc...   Feb 5 2007, 09:37 PM
|- - tedstryk   Wow, great stuff!   Feb 6 2007, 03:38 AM
- - Exploitcorporations   Jaw-dropping, amazing work, everyone! I've...   Feb 6 2007, 05:54 AM
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- - Ian R   Had to improvise a little bit with this one, as th...   Feb 6 2007, 07:04 AM
- - volcanopele   If it is any consolation, ugordan, that's what...   Feb 6 2007, 10:12 AM
- - ugordan   A simple RGB composite will tend to give you that,...   Feb 6 2007, 10:25 AM
- - Exploitcorporations   Thanks ugordan for the insights. I missed your ref...   Feb 6 2007, 08:07 PM
- - dilo   Waiting for another Ian stunning stitch, I played ...   Feb 6 2007, 09:20 PM
- - Ian R   Oooh, very pretty indeed dilo! Here's...   Feb 7 2007, 05:27 AM
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