Beagle 2 in HiRISE, Possible Targets |
Beagle 2 in HiRISE, Possible Targets |
 Feb 14 2007, 05:04 PM
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EDIT: Moved these posts from the Feb 14 HiRISE Release thread to here to collect all Beagle 2 search related stuff in one place.
I'm downloading them now too -- guess I can't blog about them until I've examined them very carefully! For a bit of history on the search, Here's a blog entry I wrote about this spot a while ago Here's the MOC team's take on that spot And here's the BBC page with the Beagle 2 team's take on it EDIT: and here's my updated blog entry with links to the Beagle 2 landing ellipse images split up into 40-MB chunks. --Emily -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Feb 15 2007, 01:55 PM
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I used the wrong image scale. Sorry for that.
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Feb 15 2007, 03:04 PM
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I know that I promised to stand still and I also know that you guys are not great fans of this kind of pseudo-perspective but I couldn't avoid it...
 But it might help one way or the other. It looks to me that the spot I indicated is not an artifact, if you look to this image it looks like there is a crater under it and some shadowing. This also helps me imagine how painful might have been Beagle's end... Who knows if it might just crumbled down the hill on it's back, does anyone see a parachute there? 
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Feb 15 2007, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (ustrax @ Feb 15 2007, 08:04 AM)  I know that I promised to stand still and I also know that you guys are not great fans of this kind of pseudo-perspective but I couldn't avoid it... But it might help one way or the other. It looks to me that the spot I indicated is not an artifact, if you look to this image it looks like there is a crater under it and some shadowing. This also helps me imagine how painful might have been Beagle's end... Who knows if it might just crumbled down the hill on it's back, does anyone see a parachute there? This is certainly a good candidate - If I understand Doug's scaling, the crater is about the right size for a Beagle splat. Spirt's parachute just barely deployed in time to save a similar fate, so splat it could be. |
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Feb 16 2007, 02:56 PM
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Special Cookie Group: Members Posts: 2168 Joined: 6-April 05 From: Sintra | Portugal Member No.: 228 |
Here I am again...
I grabbed Beagle's last known image and used it in a personal simulation. It has some similarities with Doug's original image but quite different from his simulated view. I also added Beagle 2 dimensions, can anyone tell me if the spot's pixels match those? -------------------- "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied, "If you seek for Eldorado!"
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elakdawalla Beagle 2 in HiRISE Feb 14 2007, 05:04 PM
Zvezdichko Hmm...after a quck glance nothing on these picture... Feb 14 2007, 05:28 PM elakdawalla There are two HiRISE images labeled as being Beagl... Feb 14 2007, 06:30 PM elakdawalla Here's the area right around that dark crater.... Feb 14 2007, 06:40 PM
AlexBlackwell QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Feb 14 2007, 08:40 A... Feb 14 2007, 10:07 PM Zvezdichko So... it's sure that Beagle 2 is not in this a... Feb 14 2007, 07:28 PM djellison Well - I've not looked at every sq. foot of th... Feb 14 2007, 07:32 PM Zvezdichko QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 14 2007, 07:32 PM)... Feb 14 2007, 07:57 PM djellison Sorry to be brutal - but with that spec, it's ... Feb 14 2007, 08:49 PM elakdawalla I am working on cutting up the part of the .jp2 th... Feb 14 2007, 08:52 PM djellison One of them's easy to place - but not t'ot... Feb 14 2007, 10:01 PM djellison A small house - I make that rock approx 1m across ... Feb 14 2007, 10:17 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 14 2007, 12:17 PM)... Feb 14 2007, 10:21 PM djellison To be fair you posted a link to "Astronaut Ch... Feb 14 2007, 10:35 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 14 2007, 12:35 PM)... Feb 14 2007, 10:46 PM djellison I know - that's what the caption says.
Dou... Feb 14 2007, 10:50 PM AlexBlackwell QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 14 2007, 12:50 PM)... Feb 14 2007, 10:53 PM AlexBlackwell Emily has a new blog entry. Feb 14 2007, 10:57 PM elakdawalla ...and it contains the links to the pieces of the ... Feb 14 2007, 11:00 PM dvandorn Outhouse Rock was indeed the smaller rock (roughly... Feb 15 2007, 03:13 AM Zvezdichko Thank you, Emily! The chunks will help us a l... Feb 15 2007, 08:10 AM nprev Does anyone happen to know the IR characteristics ... Feb 15 2007, 09:04 AM djellison When I get home tonight I'll check if any spec... Feb 15 2007, 10:11 AM ustrax I have a candidate for the heatshield...
A cand... Feb 15 2007, 10:38 AM djellison Starting a thread for possible B2 stuff within HiR... Feb 15 2007, 10:45 AM ustrax Doug
From your 3D rendering I would change my can... Feb 15 2007, 10:47 AM djellison Fair play to you - it's an interesting target.... Feb 15 2007, 10:54 AM ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 15 2007, 10:54 AM)... Feb 15 2007, 11:07 AM djellison Depends how much of the EDL sequence worked.
Burn... Feb 15 2007, 11:15 AM ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 15 2007, 11:15 AM)... Feb 15 2007, 11:31 AM prometheus Beagle Splat?
Looks like the main chute didn... Feb 15 2007, 12:38 PM ustrax QUOTE (prometheus @ Feb 15 2007, 12:38 PM... Feb 15 2007, 12:46 PM djellison You're zoomed out by about 5x... to give you ... Feb 15 2007, 01:15 PM prometheus Are we looking at the same area? Feb 15 2007, 01:25 PM djellison Yes - you're zoomed out a huge ammount - perha... Feb 15 2007, 01:31 PM prometheus I used Stereo Photo Maker with the 2.5 Mb jpg imag... Feb 15 2007, 01:37 PM djellison QUOTE (prometheus @ Feb 15 2007, 01:37 PM... Feb 15 2007, 03:22 PM ugordan What do you gain by reprojecting the image like th... Feb 15 2007, 03:10 PM ustrax ugordan, some sense of perspective I don't get... Feb 15 2007, 03:15 PM djellison After The BA mentioned Emily's blog entry abou... Feb 15 2007, 05:12 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 15 2007, 09:12 AM)... Feb 15 2007, 05:49 PM elakdawalla Why up-range? Wouldn't it be down-range if pa... Feb 15 2007, 05:54 PM ElkGroveDan I wasn't pegging it the failure on EDL malfunc... Feb 15 2007, 06:18 PM elakdawalla As it turns out, the atmospheric aberrations cause... Feb 15 2007, 06:45 PM ElkGroveDan Then I guess I'll only throw down a few small ... Feb 15 2007, 06:52 PM ugordan I have to say, that bright object seems to be too ... Feb 16 2007, 03:07 PM djellison Remember - a cosmic ray hit might be a single pixe... Feb 16 2007, 03:58 PM ugordan The point about map projection certainly holds. My... Feb 16 2007, 04:06 PM ustrax My oppinion too ugordan, mostly due to the fact th... Feb 16 2007, 04:10 PM djellison As the simulation shows - it would be the right so... Feb 16 2007, 04:13 PM ustrax QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 16 2007, 04:13 PM)... Feb 16 2007, 05:29 PM ugordan If only someone could sneak us the raw, non map-pr... Feb 16 2007, 04:14 PM tuvas QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 16 2007, 09:14 AM) I... Feb 16 2007, 05:03 PM hendric Doug,
Have you tried map-projecting your simulat... Feb 16 2007, 04:37 PM djellison There wouldn't be much point - I don't kno... Feb 16 2007, 04:43 PM ugordan Well, having a sample of the artifacts wouldn... Feb 16 2007, 05:07 PM kenny Alex is correct. That is a smaller rock beside Ho... Feb 17 2007, 10:12 AM Ames Not sure about this one but it looks different to ... Feb 17 2007, 11:52 AM Sunspot That feature looks quite interesting actually. Is... Feb 17 2007, 12:16 PM Ames Yes 100%
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/392880... Feb 17 2007, 12:45 PM djellison Looks like a shadow behind an unusual shape rock. ... Feb 17 2007, 01:19 PM Sunspot OK heres your "spot" resized up by 500%
... Feb 17 2007, 02:00 PM Ames Yep, propbably just a rock
This one is a little d... Feb 17 2007, 03:10 PM JTN FWIW, I've Zoomified one of the Beagle 2 ellip... Feb 17 2007, 03:51 PM Sunspot Are there plans to take more images of the landing... Feb 18 2007, 12:26 AM AlexBlackwell I don't know if this press release was mention... Feb 23 2007, 06:47 PM djellison Emily pointed out that the Isidis image for Osiris... Mar 7 2007, 09:14 PM FIN Mars Beagle 2 Back Shell and Parachute?
Probably not... Oct 24 2008, 02:58 PM djellison Which image and what coords is that from? I woudl... Oct 24 2008, 03:27 PM FIN Mars QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 24 2008, 06:27 PM)... Oct 24 2008, 04:51 PM Sunspot Beagle 2 may have tumbled to a fiery doom
http://... Dec 17 2008, 08:23 PM Paolo QUOTE (Sunspot @ Dec 17 2008, 09:23 PM) B... Jan 2 2009, 11:54 AM rlorenz QUOTE (Paolo @ Jan 2 2009, 06:54 AM) Jour... Jan 2 2009, 03:05 PM djellison Two things have always put an entry-phase burn-up ... Dec 17 2008, 09:16 PM rlorenz QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 17 2008, 04:16 PM)... Dec 18 2008, 02:19 PM djellison QUOTE (rlorenz @ Dec 18 2008, 02:19 PM) E... Dec 18 2008, 04:51 PM ugordan In all fairness, you can't compare surface con... Dec 18 2008, 05:52 PM sci44 QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 18 2008, 05:52 PM) I... Dec 19 2008, 12:25 AM mchan It could be that a shape designed for the thicker ... Dec 18 2008, 04:32 PM dvandorn As I understand it, though, what's now being s... Dec 18 2008, 06:34 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (dvandorn @ Dec 18 2008, 10:34 AM) ... Dec 18 2008, 07:24 PM Doc Perfectly Doug! But the question now is what t... Dec 18 2008, 07:22 PM Stu QUOTE (Doc @ Dec 18 2008, 07:22 PM) Hones... Dec 18 2008, 09:02 PM Enceladus75 So the evidence from new analysis is pointing to a... Dec 18 2008, 08:27 PM mcaplinger QUOTE (Enceladus75 @ Dec 18 2008, 12:27 P... Dec 18 2008, 08:45 PM Enceladus75 QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 18 2008, 08:45 PM... Dec 18 2008, 08:57 PM mcaplinger Here's the Casani report for people who feel l... Dec 18 2008, 09:36 PM climber A bit OT but anyway, do you know if Phoenix EDL re... Dec 18 2008, 08:58 PM Doc Don't you worry Stu, I vented my anger a long ... Dec 18 2008, 09:41 PM nprev Well said, Stu.
It should also be noted that in e... Dec 18 2008, 09:51 PM sci44 Well the Beagle 2 mission scientists (Pillinger, S... Jan 3 2009, 03:14 PM Zvezdichko By the way, while I respect you opinion, I think t... Jan 3 2009, 09:09 PM sci44 QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jan 3 2009, 09:09 PM)... Jan 3 2009, 11:24 PM djellison Something I learnt from Mark Sims (Beagle 2) last ... Apr 15 2009, 02:30 PM Phil Stooke That's going to make it a lot easier!
M... Apr 15 2009, 03:41 PM ElkGroveDan QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 15 2009, 07:41 A... Apr 15 2009, 03:49 PM |
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