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post Jun 7 2007, 07:07 AM
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Yes, it's time to Rock the Inner Geek and proclaim your love for what you consider to be what's hot and what's...well, boring in terms of planetary excitement. Criteria may include dynamicism, color, scale, grandeur, crater-counting wrist torture, budgetary reality, and whatever else you might consider relevant. I'll open with my own picks, without giving any particular reasons. (Earth can count if you like)

In descending order...

Most Interesting:

1.) Io
2.) Titan
3.) Europa
4.) Enceladus
5.) Mars
6.) Triton
7.) Venus
8.) Pluto
9.) Dione
10. Iapetus


Least Interesting:

1.) Rhea
2.) Luna
3.) Mercury
4.) Oberon
5.) Mimas
6.) Tethys
7.) Callisto
8.) Ganymede
9.) Earth
10.) New Jersey


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post Jun 12 2007, 09:47 AM
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I'd like to join the 'interesting Venus' lobby. The atmosphere alone would be enough. It's by far the thickest one in our Solar System that we can study all the way from top to bottom. Surface exploration is challenging, but I've no doubt that new materials will some day (soon?) be devised and assembled into a fleet of rovers that are happy in that environment and can conduct detailed geological surveys over extended periods of time. It is a truly wonderful place, and right on our doorstep.
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post Jun 12 2007, 05:46 PM
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The Venus quirk that blocks what would otherwise be the easiest means to explore it are the clouds. Venus would be a hell of a target for Earth-based telescopes, not to mention orbiter imagery, if it weren't for those darned clouds. As a result, if there are smoking plumes of volcanic origin, we can't see them. Whatever vis/IR spectroscopy could do in determining the mineralogy of landforms (a la TES and THEMIS at Mars) -- impossible from above the clouds. Visible-light sounding or star occultation studies of the lower atmosphere -- impossible. So even way up there (over here?) away from the heat, Venus is still tough.

By analogy to Titan, imagine losing all of the ISS/VIMS imagery, leaving you with RADAR and Huygens. That's roughly what we have at Venus. The only solution will be to have aerobots look at the surface beneath the clouds, and doing that on a global basis is inconceivable.

I guess eventually, we'll have some aerobots paint "stripes" of vis/IR mapping across long noodles of Venus's map, coloring in representative samples of the terrain types. Assuming such mapping has scientific and not just aesthetic purpose -- which the high temperature makes tough for IR.

Monitoring for smoking calderas is a tough problem if they erupt infrequently (think Mount St. Helens). Very tough problem. A one-time visit might be pointless, and monitoring a volcano from a permanent surface station with cameras aimed at the caldera would be a very pricey mission for possibly little return. I would suggest that if a seismographic network is ever put into place that landing VERY near a suspected active volcano or two would be a good idea.
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- Exploitcorporations   Most Interesting/Most Boring Objects in the Solar   Jun 7 2007, 07:07 AM
- - volcanopele   hehe Most Interesting: 1) Io 2) Titan 3) Triton 4...   Jun 7 2007, 07:24 AM
- - Exploitcorporations   Bonus points for listing Mars twice, and equating ...   Jun 7 2007, 07:49 AM
- - Cugel   My list, kind of search-for-life centered I think....   Jun 7 2007, 08:26 AM
- - ngunn   Most interesting: Earth Titan Mars Venus Sedna G...   Jun 7 2007, 08:56 AM
- - Toma B   I can't believe that some of you put Moon in t...   Jun 7 2007, 09:03 AM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jun 7 2007, 02:03 AM) I can't ...   Jun 7 2007, 05:06 PM
- - djellison   I can't think of a single body in the solar sy...   Jun 7 2007, 10:15 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   I echo what Doug said (and no, I'm not forgett...   Jun 7 2007, 11:57 AM
- - akuo   As most interesting: Comets! Possibly the most...   Jun 7 2007, 12:19 PM
- - OWW   From most to least interesting: Terra Titan Mars...   Jun 7 2007, 12:41 PM
|- - tedstryk   I started with a list, but I realized that there w...   Jun 7 2007, 01:20 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Well, here we go. Most interesting: Titan, Mars, ...   Jun 7 2007, 01:57 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jun 7 2007, 02:57 P...   Jun 7 2007, 02:23 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Jun 7 2007, 03:57 P...   Jun 8 2007, 07:52 AM
- - jaredGalen   Quote of the Day for ugordan! "You can...   Jun 7 2007, 02:36 PM
- - ugordan   The ironic part is I included Uranus in the boring...   Jun 7 2007, 02:51 PM
- - ElkGroveDan   I find the denigration of Ceres as an object of in...   Jun 7 2007, 03:07 PM
- - brellis   Most dull and uninteresting object in the solar sy...   Jun 7 2007, 04:05 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   I clearly could have phrased the topic/question be...   Jun 7 2007, 05:47 PM
- - dvandorn   Now, see, I'm in the camp that every solar sys...   Jun 7 2007, 06:07 PM
- - Juramike   My preferences based on hard drive storage percent...   Jun 7 2007, 06:18 PM
- - volcanopele   LOL let me try that out. No percentages, just the...   Jun 7 2007, 07:01 PM
- - ugordan   There's a slight hint of you being an Io fan r...   Jun 7 2007, 07:18 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   (Expletive deleted), that really does skew the bal...   Jun 7 2007, 08:10 PM
- - Pavel   Most Interesting: 1) Europa 2) Titan 3) Mars 4) Ga...   Jun 7 2007, 08:52 PM
- - nprev   What's very telling is VP's space allocate...   Jun 7 2007, 11:26 PM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (nprev @ Jun 7 2007, 04:26 PM) What...   Jun 8 2007, 12:54 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 7 2007, 05:54 PM...   Jun 11 2007, 07:56 AM
- - nprev   You sure Io isn't the Hawaii of the Solar Syst...   Jun 8 2007, 01:01 AM
- - Mongo   I am taking a similar post I made here several yea...   Jun 8 2007, 01:22 AM
|- - JRehling   I can't get into the mindset of what's mos...   Jun 10 2007, 04:45 PM
- - edstrick   "...If I had to list an uninspiring object, I...   Jun 8 2007, 07:10 AM
- - mchan   Based on where I would like to see umsf craft go f...   Jun 8 2007, 07:45 AM
- - djellison   That's the flaw in this debate. What is intri...   Jun 8 2007, 09:39 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 8 2007, 10:39 AM) ...   Jun 8 2007, 12:31 PM
- - ugordan   I have a feeling Ceres can't turn out as borin...   Jun 8 2007, 11:35 AM
- - David   Rather than just list "most interesting...   Jun 8 2007, 12:54 PM
- - Pavel   Perhaps instead of "most boring objects...   Jun 8 2007, 03:33 PM
- - lyford   Good distinction, Pavel! Which object is undu...   Jun 8 2007, 04:25 PM
- - J.J.   ^ Agree with Pavel...I don't think anything in...   Jun 8 2007, 04:26 PM
- - volcanopele   Io...overrated.... oohhh, it's on! ...   Jun 8 2007, 05:51 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Jun 8 2007, 07:51 AM...   Jun 8 2007, 06:13 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   This whole exchange gave me another bright idea. T...   Jun 8 2007, 09:12 PM
- - Rakhir   Very nice !   Jun 8 2007, 09:26 PM
- - ngunn   I agree, that's beautiful, but please can we h...   Jun 8 2007, 09:33 PM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 8 2007, 10:33 PM) plea...   Jun 8 2007, 10:31 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 8 2007, 11:33 AM) I ag...   Jun 8 2007, 10:32 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jun 8 2007, 11:32 ...   Jun 9 2007, 08:29 PM
- - Exploitcorporations   Sorry about the captions, ngunn...OWW is correct o...   Jun 9 2007, 05:19 AM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (Exploitcorporations @ Jun 9 2007, 06...   Jun 9 2007, 07:49 AM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Exploitcorporations @ Jun 8 2007, 10...   Jun 9 2007, 08:28 AM
|- - J.J.   QUOTE (Exploitcorporations @ Jun 9 2007, 12...   Jun 9 2007, 04:37 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE As for Rhea, I was really grasping at straws...   Jun 10 2007, 04:42 AM
- - Thu   Here're my favourite places 1. Titan's...   Jun 9 2007, 12:36 PM
- - edstrick   "Ironically, Rhea's about the only body t...   Jun 10 2007, 08:54 AM
|- - David   Rhea is the moon that looks more like any other mo...   Jun 10 2007, 04:19 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Most interesting: 1. Mars 2. Europa 3. Titan 4. E...   Jun 11 2007, 09:50 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ Jun 11 2007, 02:50 AM...   Jun 11 2007, 08:00 PM
|- - hendric   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jun 11 2007, 03:00 PM) ...   Jun 12 2007, 05:57 AM
- - ngunn   I'd like to join the 'interesting Venus...   Jun 12 2007, 09:47 AM
|- - JRehling   The Venus quirk that blocks what would otherwise b...   Jun 12 2007, 05:46 PM
- - dvandorn   Venus is an interesting place, yes. It is somewha...   Jun 12 2007, 05:59 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 12 2007, 06:59 PM) ...   Jun 12 2007, 09:04 PM
|- - David   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 12 2007, 09:04 PM) Eve...   Jul 2 2007, 04:26 AM
- - volcanopele   Why would you need to place the seismic network ...   Jun 12 2007, 06:06 PM
- - Decepticon   RE: Most Interesting/Most Boring Objects in the Solar   Jul 2 2007, 03:05 AM
|- - volcanopele   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jul 1 2007, 08:05 PM)...   Jul 2 2007, 04:58 AM
- - mchan   Note Decepticon did not state Most WHAT / Least WH...   Jul 2 2007, 08:39 AM
- - Decepticon   RE: Most Interesting/Most Boring Objects in the Solar   Jul 2 2007, 04:00 PM
- - marsbug   In rough order of personal preference: Earth Tita...   Jul 2 2007, 05:56 PM
- - jasedm   I've been thinking about this from the point o...   Nov 7 2007, 05:48 PM
- - Geographer   The moons of the outer planets fascinate me the mo...   Nov 11 2007, 04:59 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Geographer @ Nov 11 2007, 11:59 AM...   Nov 12 2007, 02:07 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Just to correct a surprisingly common misconceptio...   Nov 11 2007, 06:46 PM
|- - jasedm   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Nov 11 2007, 06:46 P...   Nov 12 2007, 09:22 AM
- - Stu   Most interesting object in the solar system: Mars ...   Nov 11 2007, 07:01 PM
- - tasp   Here's one for the probably most surprisingly ...   Nov 11 2007, 09:56 PM
|- - GregM   .   Nov 12 2007, 02:45 AM
- - Betelgeuze   My list: 1) Ceres 2) Europa 3) Titan 4) Enceladus...   Nov 11 2007, 10:56 PM
- - rogelio   My two main criteria for “most interesting/boring”...   Nov 12 2007, 08:36 PM
- - Gladstoner   .   Jan 15 2008, 09:52 AM
- - tasp   {work with me here} Rhea's 'boringness...   Jan 15 2008, 03:12 PM
|- - JRehling   I think Rhea's boringness is a psychological a...   Jan 15 2008, 10:06 PM
- - marsbug   I have at least one paper suggesting Rhea may be m...   Jan 15 2008, 05:04 PM
- - jasedm   Poor old Rhea (old being the operative word) - Nob...   Jan 15 2008, 05:57 PM
- - tasp   Well . . . An 'active' Ariel might be wha...   Jan 15 2008, 07:13 PM
|- - jasedm   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 15 2008, 07:13 PM) Not ...   Jan 16 2008, 02:35 AM
- - jasedm   Agreed. I think it almost certain that Ariel has b...   Jan 15 2008, 08:25 PM
- - Superstring   Bumping this thread in light of recent exploration...   Aug 9 2015, 06:26 PM
- - volcanopele   Great list, Superstring, I think you and I would g...   Aug 10 2015, 08:17 PM
|- - Superstring   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 10 2015, 08:17 P...   Aug 10 2015, 11:50 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 10 2015, 03:17 P...   Aug 12 2015, 10:58 PM
- - HSchirmer   Most interesting, Methone, the Mork-from-Ork moon ...   Aug 11 2015, 05:13 PM
- - Habukaz   Hmm, tough task. Of the objects that have been vi...   Aug 16 2015, 10:01 AM
- - Antdoghalo   Sorry to necropost but this is a fun topic Most i...   Feb 16 2022, 07:10 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Hi Antdoghalo. Most of the worlds you say are b...   Feb 23 2022, 11:00 PM


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