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TritonAntares
post Sep 11 2006, 09:27 PM
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Hi,
CASSINI has transmitted 184 pics (!) over the last days.
Here five takeouts, 3-4x enlargement:


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Date: 2009-09-06
Distance: 2.228.548 km
Filters: CL1 and CL2

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Date: 2009-09-08
Distance: 3.215.284 km
Filters: P120 and GRN

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Date: 2009-09-08
Distance: 3.216.610 km
Filters: P60 and GRN

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Date: 2009-09-09
Distance: 3.390.271km
Filters: P60 and GRN

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Date: 2009-09-09
Distance: 3.427.313 km
Filters: P120 and GRN

Maybe somebody is able to combine some of those images to show more details.

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post Jul 10 2007, 08:18 PM
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Ian,

That is a possibility to consider. This might be kind of in mid-stream, as for some of the key images I've switched from a spherical assumption to using a triaxial ellipsoid that has been recently published. Hopefully my software is doing that with enough accuracy. However much of the projection error associated with assuming a perfect sphere ends up being in the north-south direction, at least for images with a sub-spacecraft point near the equator. Most of the offset I'm seeing with the basin is in the east-west direction.

The older image with the shadowed version of the basin (Oct 2004) was projected assuming a sphere, so I am thinking of redoing that one. This was released from CICLOPS with a grid overlay so I was assuming things were fairly accurately done. Another thing is that I see the Voyager image may also need to be switched over to a triaxial ellipsoid and that is a key connecting image. Perhaps this being a polar view will show more of a shift?


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post Jul 11 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (scalbers @ Jul 10 2007, 02:18 PM) *
This might be kind of in mid-stream, as for some of the key images I've switched from a spherical assumption to using a triaxial ellipsoid that has been recently published. Hopefully my software is doing that with enough accuracy. However much of the projection error associated with assuming a perfect sphere ends up being in the north-south direction, at least for images with a sub-spacecraft point near the equator. Most of the offset I'm seeing with the basin is in the east-west direction.

Ooooh... trusting that triaxial ellipsoid could be part of your problem. Take a look at this image from 2004:

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The part of Iapetus that appears on the western limb in the above image is in roughly the same part of the moon as the eastern limb from the images of Roncevaux Terra that came down the pipeline the other day.

Look at the sharp "zenith discontinuity" at the equator. A triaxial ellipsoid can't possibly model that properly. The traxial ellipsoid is probably some sort of best-fit that likely deviates substantially from the true surface in a lot of places. I don't doubt that it's the best we've got, but it won't be anywhere near perfect.

Just eyeballing the new Roncevaux Terra images, it looks as if the true limb is "squashed inwards" near the basin. The triaxial ellipsoid probably lies outside the true surface in this part of Iapetus. This would cause anything lying close to the true limb to appear to be closer to Cassini than it actually is.
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- TritonAntares   New Iapetian image series   Sep 11 2006, 09:27 PM
- - Michael Capobianco   It looks like the big landslide basin has a subdue...   Apr 23 2007, 06:51 PM
- - angel1801   And I can tell you the images of Iapetus taken on ...   Jul 4 2007, 02:17 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Yep, the big basin is nicely visible -- and what...   Jul 4 2007, 02:57 PM
- - Michael Capobianco   So, could ejecta from the big southern basin have ...   Jul 4 2007, 04:44 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Here's a composite of four frames, enlarged an...   Jul 4 2007, 05:03 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 4 2007, 06:03 PM...   Jul 4 2007, 05:06 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   This is a weird one. The lack of bright craters ...   Jul 5 2007, 03:43 PM
- - angel1801   The images of Iapetus from July 8 are now in and r...   Jul 9 2007, 09:16 AM
- - Ian R   Here's my version, consisting of 12 stacked im...   Jul 9 2007, 10:30 AM
- - ngunn   Once again by the low-tech expedient of printing o...   Jul 9 2007, 03:05 PM
- - scalbers   I think I might go out on a limb so to speak and i...   Jul 9 2007, 08:45 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I'm fairly confident there is no double rim, a...   Jul 9 2007, 09:19 PM
- - scalbers   I'll be interested to see whether things will ...   Jul 9 2007, 11:26 PM
- - Ian R   Steve, Could your problems be caused by the fact ...   Jul 10 2007, 03:46 AM
- - scalbers   Ian, That is a possibility to consider. This migh...   Jul 10 2007, 08:18 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jul 10 2007, 02:18 PM) ...   Jul 11 2007, 12:18 AM
- - scalbers   Rob's image in post #125 is a good one to cons...   Jul 11 2007, 06:32 PM
|- - JRehling   Could another component of the "basin gap...   Jul 11 2007, 09:06 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (JRehling @ Jul 11 2007, 03:06 PM) ...   Jul 12 2007, 03:25 PM
- - volcanopele   Regardless, it is always best to use the triaxial ...   Jul 11 2007, 07:47 PM
- - scalbers   Interesting to look in more detail at structures o...   Jul 15 2007, 01:30 PM
- - Ian R   Steve, you're more than welcome to use the sta...   Jul 15 2007, 02:45 PM
- - scalbers   Thanks much Ian. Hopefully I'll have some time...   Jul 15 2007, 03:01 PM
- - Harkeppler   These two view of Iapetus was made from 13 and 15 ...   Jul 15 2007, 04:05 PM
- - TritonAntares   ... Difficult to say which one exactly Hamon is, I...   Jul 15 2007, 04:49 PM
- - scalbers   Nice illustration T/A. In some ways this looks pos...   Jul 15 2007, 04:54 PM
- - scalbers   Greetings, I'm in the midst of reviving my ma...   Jul 17 2007, 06:57 PM
|- - Pavel   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jul 17 2007, 02:57 PM) ...   Jul 18 2007, 01:10 AM
- - nprev   New Iapetus article on the Cassini site: http://s...   Jul 18 2007, 12:39 AM
- - scalbers   It's from the rightmost image at this URL: ht...   Jul 18 2007, 04:45 PM
- - edstrick   When this orbit's long-range full-disk sequenc...   Jul 19 2007, 05:08 AM
- - scalbers   Greetings, I thought I'd show a blinking GIF ...   Jul 19 2007, 05:29 PM
- - MarcF   It seems that there are indeed two overlaping big ...   Jul 19 2007, 06:41 PM
- - scalbers   Yes, I must admit that the more I look at this the...   Jul 22 2007, 02:58 PM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (scalbers @ Jul 22 2007, 04:58 PM) ...   Jul 28 2007, 01:35 PM
- - scalbers   Greetings T-A, Good questions worth considering g...   Jul 28 2007, 04:10 PM
- - edstrick   I kept trying to convince myself that traces of ...   Jul 29 2007, 07:48 AM
- - Steve G   Just a quick look tonight at Where is Cassini Now?...   Jul 30 2007, 04:42 AM
- - ugordan   Here's another movie of an "ancient...   Jul 30 2007, 05:44 PM
- - Ian R   Awesome! Gordan, you're a machine!   Jul 31 2007, 06:49 AM
|- - Pavel   QUOTE (Ian R @ Jul 31 2007, 02:49 AM) Awe...   Jul 31 2007, 02:11 PM
- - TritonAntares   Hi, let me just mention these three Iapetus far d...   Jul 31 2007, 08:21 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (TritonAntares @ Jul 31 2007, 02:21...   Aug 2 2007, 12:57 AM
|- - TritonAntares   QUOTE (Rob Pinnegar @ Aug 2 2007, 02:57 A...   Aug 2 2007, 06:53 AM
- - TritonAntares   Btw., 9 additional far distance pics - including 3...   Aug 4 2007, 10:25 AM
- - scalbers   Neat to see how things are setting up as we have 3...   Aug 4 2007, 03:50 PM
- - CAP-Team   We're closing in on Iapetus! Images from y...   Sep 4 2007, 07:41 AM
- - ugordan   There's a rather neat "zero" phase o...   Sep 20 2007, 09:16 PM
- - scalbers   Or would the grainier (snowy) material be in Ronce...   Sep 23 2007, 01:19 PM
- - ugordan   It's quite possible, I was just trying to spar...   Sep 23 2007, 01:54 PM
- - scalbers   Gordan - these are interesting animations that you...   Sep 23 2007, 02:25 PM
|- - ugordan   Interesting PDF from a glance, thanks for the link...   Sep 24 2007, 01:54 PM
- - ngunn   Interesting. I would expect ice deposited as frost...   Sep 24 2007, 04:20 PM
- - CAP-Team   Below images from 17, 19 and 23 september together...   Sep 25 2007, 08:58 PM
- - scalbers   Nice views that you put together CAP-Team. One thi...   Sep 29 2007, 01:47 PM
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