IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

What are these moons in this picture of Saturn?, How to identify what moons are in a given dataset.
geckzilla
post Aug 8 2014, 05:51 AM
Post #1


Junior Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 24
Joined: 9-June 14
From: Fresh Meadows, NY
Member No.: 7197



A lot of you guys probably already knew about this stuff. I went through learning how to do this today so I decided to share. Hopefully this will be helpful someone out there.

One trouble I have with processing Cassini's data is that I am often left wondering what, exactly, I'm looking at. I was curious about how this information is ascertained when the moon is small enough that it's not obvious which is in the frame.
The picture I will use for an example is located here: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap050504.html
It was originally processed by Fernando Garcia Navarro.


This investigation began because every time this image runs, we get questions from people asking which moons they are. Phil Plait once wrote an article on the picture and he didn't bother to find out, or I assume he would have written it down. Luckily, from the description we know the images were captured in late February 2005, which turns out to be useful enough. I used OPUS because it displays up to 500 thumbnails at a time and has a relatively simple search interface. You can constrain it to planet Saturn, mission Cassini, and Observation Time min 2005-02-28, max 2005-03-01 to see all of the pictures Cassini took on the 28th of Feb. I also told it to contain /W in the file directory path because I knew I only wanted wide field images instead of close ups of clouds.

Now we can look through these results until we find the one that matches the picture we are searching for. Clicking thumbnails yields a variety of metadata, such as the file path.

These are the file paths for the four possible files that were used in the APOD picture. Three reds and a blue.
S/IMG/CO/ISS/1488302180/W
S/IMG/CO/ISS/1488302221/W
S/IMG/CO/ISS/1488302267/W
S/IMG/CO/ISS/1488302312/W

Observation time for the first one on the list as follows:
Observation Time 1 (UTC):
2005-059T16:49:10.899

What's this mean? 2005 is obviously the year, but 059 refers to the 59th day of that year, which turns out to be February 28th. The time is, of course, just after the uppercase T.

Apparently this is all we need. Now we go to the handy, dandy solar system simulator and enter a few parameters.
http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/

"Show me Saturn as seen from Cassini
on Feb 28 in the year 2005 at 16:50 UTC"

Field of view might take some tinkering.
"I want the body to take up 60 percent of the image width" works well in this case.

There you have it. Brilliant Dione on the left and fabulous Enceladus on the right.
Attached Image


As a bonus, now I get to process the image myself. Turns out the wavelengths were in reversed channels with the shorter one in the red and the longer one in the blue. Maybe it should have been Saturn's thin pink line the whole time. The reversal did make it look a lot more natural given the weird filter set, though. I say if you are going to use a weird filter set and someone else already did it once the more natural-looking way, you may as well go full weird instead.
Attached Image


(Amusing tidbit: I actually came to the forum to ask how to identify the moons. The problem has vexed me in the past. In the process of writing the post I ended up answering myself and converted it into a short tutorial instead.)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 28th May 2024 - 04:38 PM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.