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OPAG Reports, Formal proposals/evaluations of future outer SS missions
JRehling
post Nov 9 2007, 08:28 PM
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http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/announcements.html

That's one little URL with a lifetime's worth of reading material.

Three detailed studies are available in PDF format. The missing body is Titan, which will be the subject of a forthcoming report.

The three focus missions are:
Europa Explorer: Fairly detailed description of a mission that is pretty much what Europa Orbiter would have been.

Jupiter System Observer: Basically, Galileo 2 (without the antenna mishap!). The craft would start with a 3-year tour of all the Galileans, then spend 1 year in an elliptical Ganymede orbit, then the rest of the mission in a tight, polar Ganymede orbit (like MGS at Mars). That would map the heck out of Ganymede, but also be close enough to the rest of the system to make long-range observations for years. Note that Ganymede would thereby provide a lot of radiation shielding.

Enceladus: where three profiles are examined in depth: Enceladus Orbiter only; Enceladus Orbiter with soft lander; Saturn orbiter with Enceladus soft lander.

There's more to chew on here than I have had (or may ever have) time for, but I'll throw in my two cents' worth:

Seems like a Europa-only mission would only benefit from coming after a JSO. EE would explore Europa much better than JSO would; why even have JSO observations at Europa if EE came first? In many ways, these two missions are competitive. EE would have the big payoff, but JSO seems like basic recon that would prime EE, especially giving specs on radar performance. But if we waited til JSO was 4 years into its mission before completing design of EE, then put EE sometime mid-century.

If an Enceladus mission included a Saturn orbiter, then maybe the same orbiter could provide data relay for separate Titan elements. However, a lot of the Enceladus science goals would require an Enceladus orbiter, so I don't think a Saturn orbiter for Enceladus/Titan will win out.

Note that Enceladus orbital velocity is low enough that the craft could manage to take lots of hits from ice pellets and survive. Put a bulletproof vest on the craft and let it soar through the plumes endlessly.
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- JRehling   OPAG Reports   Nov 9 2007, 08:28 PM
- - djellison   A comparatively simple orbiter doesn't make mu...   Mar 24 2008, 06:30 PM
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|- - djellison   QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 24 2008, 06:51 PM) An...   Mar 24 2008, 06:53 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 24 2008, 06:53 PM)...   Mar 24 2008, 07:14 PM
- - Mariner9   It is tough to know just what 700 million Euros wi...   Mar 24 2008, 09:43 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Mar 24 2008, 09:43 PM) ...   Mar 24 2008, 10:26 PM
- - mps   QUOTE (vjkane @ Mar 25 2008, 12:26 AM) In...   Mar 25 2008, 11:25 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (mps @ Mar 25 2008, 12:25 PM) I thi...   Mar 25 2008, 11:40 AM
|- - Mariner9   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 25 2008, 04:40 AM) T...   Mar 25 2008, 08:55 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 25 2008, 11:40 AM) ....   Mar 26 2008, 12:25 AM
|- - SFJCody   Very interesting episode of the Sky at Night this ...   Jun 3 2008, 08:41 PM
- - jasedm   I'd like to register my agreement also - why t...   Mar 25 2008, 08:55 PM
- - jasedm   Good arguments.   Mar 25 2008, 08:59 PM
- - djellison   There's a science update tomorrow at 6pm UT - ...   Mar 25 2008, 09:37 PM
- - vjkane   The presentations from the outer planet flagship i...   Jun 15 2008, 03:38 AM
- - Mariner9   I was struck by the 10 year travel time for the Ti...   Jun 15 2008, 04:18 PM
- - ngunn   I am DELIGHTED to see in the latest Titan proposal...   Jun 16 2008, 11:19 AM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 16 2008, 12:19 PM) I a...   Jun 16 2008, 05:47 PM
||- - ngunn   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 16 2008, 06:47 PM) Ha...   Jun 16 2008, 06:14 PM
|- - just-nick   QUOTE (ngunn @ Jun 16 2008, 03:19 AM) I a...   Jun 18 2008, 04:02 AM
- - volcanopele   it is a relatively new idea (or at least a reborn ...   Jun 18 2008, 04:34 AM
- - ngunn   Let's not forget that ESA has already landed a...   Jun 18 2008, 08:14 AM
- - gpurcell   "Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter - Ambitious" ...   Jun 18 2008, 02:28 PM
- - vjkane   An additional presentation from the Flagship instr...   Jun 20 2008, 05:41 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 20 2008, 06:41 PM) Fi...   Jun 20 2008, 09:34 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 20 2008, 01:41 PM) Th...   Jun 21 2008, 10:21 PM
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|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 21 2008, 07:39 PM) Ca...   Jun 23 2008, 02:13 AM
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|- - Juramike   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 20 2008, 08:05 PM) Th...   Jun 21 2008, 12:34 AM
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- - Mariner9   I think you are right, the longer they have to de...   Jun 27 2008, 09:48 PM
- - mps   QUOTE (Mariner9 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:48 AM) ...   Jun 28 2008, 11:30 AM
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|- - ugordan   2020? That's depressing.   Jun 28 2008, 08:51 PM
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|- - vjkane   QUOTE (vjkane @ Jun 29 2008, 01:12 AM) Th...   Jun 29 2008, 03:20 PM
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