Post Solar Conjunction/Santorini Study Drive, The second leg in our Journey to Endeavor Crater |
Post Solar Conjunction/Santorini Study Drive, The second leg in our Journey to Endeavor Crater |
Feb 16 2009, 02:51 AM
Post
#301
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 21-December 07 From: Clatskanie, Oregon Member No.: 3988 |
I was just looking over the tau images on Sol-1797 on Opportunity, and I found somthing pretty odd. At first look I thought maybe it is just a cosmic ray hit or just random noise, but when put into into a gif, it looks to be somthing different. Any ideas? |
|
|
Feb 16 2009, 03:02 AM
Post
#302
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 910 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
Thanks for the answer Paolo! We will all hold good thoughts that the RF wheel current returns to normal.
-------------------- |
|
|
Feb 16 2009, 04:25 AM
Post
#303
|
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1583 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
. At first look I thought maybe it is just a cosmic ray hit or just random noise, but when put into into a gif, it looks to be somthing different. Any ideas? Are they hot pixels? There are two that move in formation. Or I should say, the sun is moving, and the pixels are stationary in formation... |
|
|
Feb 16 2009, 04:58 AM
Post
#304
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 21-December 07 From: Clatskanie, Oregon Member No.: 3988 |
I'm sort of now thinking that .
|
|
|
Feb 16 2009, 06:40 AM
Post
#305
|
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
Um, yeah -- I mean, it's either hot pixels or you've caught the Barsoom Airlines flight pattern out of Helium, all the commuter aircraft bound for the great thoat roundup...
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
|
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 07:03 AM
Post
#306
|
|
The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
A couple of new 3D images on my ROAD TO ENDEAVOUR blog if anyone wants a look...
http://roadtoendeavour.wordpress.com/2009/...dows-and-tracks -------------------- |
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 05:29 PM
Post
#307
|
|
Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
... On 1800 we drove backwards that in the past help redistribute the lubricant, then drove forwards the same way we drove on 1797 and we'll see what the wheel currents look like. At the end of the drive we also did a few steps in a way they match the natural curvature of the RF wheel as another test to see if the currents are back to normal. Today's (sol 1802) imaging plan has only a tau measurement. |
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 05:56 PM
Post
#308
|
|
Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Today's (sol 1802) imaging plan has only a tau measurement. This was a long weekend (president's day holiday). The Sol 1800 currents were still high, today it will be one more diagnostic test I believe. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
|
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 08:07 PM
Post
#309
|
|
Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Oops, I wasn't aware of the holidays.
With the low activity today (in terms of MB) I hope those images looking toward Endeavour get a chance on the downlink queue. |
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 11:05 PM
Post
#310
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Well, if we are heading toward a wheel lockup, I think it's time to tell Oppy, no more bathroom breaks till we reach the parking lot terrain.
Paolo, any plans to experiment with that wheel held locked just to see how well she moves through the ripples? If it is not too big an impediment to travel, could locking up the wheel actually extend its lifespan for situations where all 6 wheels are really needed? |
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 11:18 PM
Post
#311
|
|
Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Well, if we are heading toward a wheel lockup, I think it's time to tell Oppy, no more bathroom breaks till we reach the parking lot terrain. That's why she ended up with one wheel locked toed-in, she was trying to hold it ;-) QUOTE Paolo, any plans to experiment with that wheel held locked just to see how well she moves through the ripples? If it is not too big an impediment to travel, could locking up the wheel actually extend its lifespan for situations where all 6 wheels are really needed? I have no idea (and probably the rest of the team as well) whether this is a symptom of actuator wear. W know that backwar driving reduces the current a little, so we might decide to drive backwars for a while. That is mutually exclusive with Autonav/D* tho. Regarding extending the lifespan of the wheel y not using it: when I moved to the US a long time ago I bright with me a PAL VCR. It was well used when I moved, and it arrived in perfect shape. I used it every once in a while to watch tome PAL tapes. Then I decided to use it sparingly. In about three months of being unused the drum stopped spinning freely (due to lubricant breakdown). So if they will ask my vote, I will vote to continue using the actuator for as long as we can. There's always time to test whether we can cross ripples when the wheel stops working :-( Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
|
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 02:39 AM
Post
#312
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 5-June 08 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 4185 |
I have no idea (and probably the rest of the team as well) whether this is a symptom of actuator wear. W know that backwar driving reduces the current a little, so we might decide to drive backwars for a while. That is mutually exclusive with Autonav/D* tho. How much is influence of the sand is driving through? Quite recently she moved from bedrock to more sandy areas, and it seems to me the front wheels take the brunt from this they 'dig the track' that the other wheels are following in. A bit further on she will be back on bedrock patches, so hopefully this will help. Regards, Geert. |
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 02:50 AM
Post
#313
|
|
Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
That is my personal take (that the higher wheel currents are due to the soil type), but I have to be honest and say that the increase is quite a bit larger than we have experienced so far. We did see higher wheel currents on the RF prior to VC, on the north side of VC and in the "parking lot" south of VC, but the difference between the RF wheel drive current and all other wheels was small compared to what I see now. So at this point my *hope* is that this is due to the soil.
Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
|
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 05:37 AM
Post
#314
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 5-June 08 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 4185 |
I think we all share this hope with you, lots of positive waves must help
Looking at the rear hazam images on sol 1800 and 1797 it looks a bit like the right wheel was digging deeper into the soil then the left wheels. The driving she is doing now is different from driving on 'parking lot' soil, when she is driving south in between the dunes there are often situations where one side is more or less 'on' (or 'in') a ripple while the other side is in a through, it stands to reason that in such a situation drive currents will be higher on the side which has to dig deeper through the soil. On previous 'parking lot' trips all wheels were on equal footage and that would make a lot of difference. On Spirit I'm always amazed that the 'stuck' wheel is really 'stuck', it is not turning at all, normally with a burnt electro motor you would expect that you could still turn it (even though it would show some resistance), but it looks like the wheel is full on the break, everything would be a lot easier if it would turn at least a bit... Regards, Geert. |
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 11:10 AM
Post
#315
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 30-March 05 Member No.: 223 |
Probably I'm missing something but if I remember correctly then wasn't Oppy used to regularly alternate between forward and backward driving for better "wear distribution" anyway ?
Or has it something to do with the stuck IDD or the new flight software that could make regular backward-driving more difficult ... ? |
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 24th May 2024 - 12:31 AM |
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member. |