LCROSS results, News as and when we find it |
LCROSS results, News as and when we find it |
Jan 14 2010, 12:02 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
There hasn't been much activity on the "LCROSS Impact" thread since a few weeks after the Oct 8 impact, so it seemed like a good place to break and start a new thread for results.
I don't know what results will be discussed this evening, but there is -- in about one hour from the time I post this -- going to be a live webcast and Q and A with PI Tony Colaprete. Via @MyMoonLPI on Twitter: "Chat with LCROSS principal investigator Tony Colaprete TONIGHT @ 8 pm Eastern, http://bit.ly/4Gfhbj " -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Jan 16 2010, 12:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 10-September 08 Member No.: 4338 |
A few points covered in the webcast, if I remember correctly: ratio of water to dust directly measured in plume, about 4%; surprisingly, a lot of molecular hydrogen (H2), and other volatiles. Also mercury, light hydrocarbons including methane, CO2, and ammonia. Similarities to comet or asteroidal material. Much of impact energy absorbed in vaporizing the volatiles.
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Jan 16 2010, 12:45 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8785 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
The Hg detection continues to surprise me. However, if you consider it as a volatile, then it actually provides supporting evidence for the cold-trap mechanism.
In fact...WAG here, but since it's such a heavy element & much of the impact energy apparently was expended in vaporizing volatiles, does its presence explain the understated flash? -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Feb 11 2010, 07:42 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 10-September 05 Member No.: 493 |
ftp://ftp.lpi.usra.edu/pub/outgoing/lpsc2010/full204.pdf
QUOTE However the SPH calculation shows that the H2O mass ejected over the 2.5 km height is ~150 kg [4], when assuming the water content in the excavated lunar soil is 1 wt %. The difference between our observation resuts and pre-mission SPH calculation results [4] would suggest three possible interpretations. The first interpretaion is the lack of water in the shallow regions in the PSA. However because the upper limit of the ejecta (~1000 kg) and H2O mass (~40 kg) obtained by Subaru leads to ~4 wt % of water content, four times the estimate for average abundance (~1 wt %) from LP observation [2] Thus this interpretation of dry upper layer is not necessarily supported by our observation. The second interpretation is that ice grains excavated by the Centaur impact had a very large average size, slowing the rate of sublimation greatly. However this interpretation is inconsistent with the observation of the significant amount of water vapor observed by the SS/C, which can see the ejecta as low as about 1 km above the floor of Cabeus crater. The third interpretation is that the amount of high-speed ejecta reaching the height of the slit of the Subaru telescope was much smaller than the theoretical estimates. The IRCS imaging observation results [7] also supports this interpretations. There are two possible mechanisms for this interpretation. (1) The cut-off velocity exists between the ejection velocity reaching the height observable by the S-S/C and the ejection velocity reaching the height observable by the Subaru telescope. (2) The ejection angle of the Centaur impact was much smaller than that of standard impact cases (~45°).
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Apr 2 2010, 08:45 AM
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There's a news article here about water results from LCROSS and Chandrayaan-1.
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Apr 2 2010, 10:26 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1374 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Mines a glass of the pure water...thankyou.
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Jun 10 2010, 09:19 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10226 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The raw data from LCROSS are now available at PDS.
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Jun 11 2010, 12:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
cool but the lola has not been updated
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Jun 11 2010, 12:57 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14434 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
LOLA is nothing to do with LCROSS.
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Oct 18 2010, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE MEDIA ADVISORY: M10-144 NASA HOSTS MEDIA TELECON FEATURING RESULTS OF MOON MISSION IMPACT THE SCIENCE JOURNAL HAS EMBARGOED INFORMATION UNTIL 2 P.M. EDT ON OCT. 21 WASHINGTON -- NASA will host a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT on Thursday, Oct. 21, to discuss additional findings from NASA's Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, and NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO, missions. The results will be featured in six papers published in the Oct. 22 issue of the journal Science. The journal's embargo on these results will be lifted at the start of the telecon. The briefing will focus on the data from: The Diviner Lunar Radiometer Experiment which measures surface and subsurface temperatures from orbit. The Lyman Alpha Mapping Project which is mapping the entire lunar surface in the far ultraviolet spectrum. The Lunar Exploration Neutron Detector which creates high-resolution maps of hydrogen distribution and gathers information about the neutron component of the lunar radiation environment. The panelists are: -- Michael Wargo, chief lunar scientist, Exploration Systems Mission Directorate, NASA Headquarters, Washington -- Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS project scientist and principal investigator, NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. -- David Paige, Diviner instrument principal investigator, University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) -- Igor Mitrofanov, Lunar Exploration Neutron Detector principal investigator, Institute for Space Research, Moscow -- Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences, Brown University, Providence, R.I. and LCROSS science team member -- Paul Hayne, graduate student at UCLA and Diviner team member -- Randy Gladstone, Lyman-Alpha Mapping Project deputy principal investigator, Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio -- Richard Vondrak, LRO project scientist, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. To view supporting information available at the start of the teleconference, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/lcross Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio I will be calling in to the teleconference and write about it for the blog. Since the LCROSS data set is available, I've written on my to-do list an item to take a look at the data and see if there are any fun images to pull out. However, it's going to be a busy week for me. If anyone reading this has thought "I ought to see what I can get out of the LCROSS data set and post it on UMSF," this would be a good week to do it -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Oct 21 2010, 05:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 5-May 05 From: Mississippi (USA) Member No.: 379 |
NASA News Audio Live Streaming starts in a few minutes! 2:00 PM EST 18:00 UTC
LCROSS-LRO: Results of the Moon Mission Impact LISTEN LIVE NOW: › Real | › Windows This link may not be active until 10-15 minutes before the start of the teleconference. Jack EDIT Media material page http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/m...ia_telecon.html |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:56 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 24-November 04 Member No.: 111 |
Happily, I find I correctly predicted finding Hg in permanently shadowed craters on the moon, in 2008, according to the same mechanism now being offered:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...mp;#entry165706 |
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Feb 18 2011, 10:03 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8785 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Apologies for thread revival, but I've not seen this visible light image of the LCROSS impact plume before.
Main article. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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