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Jul 19 2012, 11:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: 19-August 07 Member No.: 3299 |
I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings?
I suspected that the tones would say every important milestone saying Ok or bad with tone alike to Moorse Code. Isn't it? The milestones would be:
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Jul 19 2012, 11:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: 5-February 06 Member No.: 675 |
I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings? So would I; all I could find from searching the web is this passage on pp. 99-100 of this 2009 discussion of Mars Science Laboratory Telecommunications System Design: "Each timeline segment of EDL has its unique event schedule (parachute deployment, for example), and each segment will have a unique set of nominal and off nominal tones. The collection of tones, of which 256 are available, constitutes the MFSK dictionary." Further search for an MSFK dictionary publicly available from NASA drew a blank. Is there a listing of the major nominal and off nominal tones? Steve M |
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Jul 19 2012, 11:42 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I've not seen one publicly available.
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Jul 20 2012, 01:26 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
The first pdf file I see by searching "descanso jpl msl telecom" is the most detailed document I could find.
Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Jul 20 2012, 06:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 3108 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Thanks Paolo. This is an excellent 5.46mb pdf document. Recommended reading to all.
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Jul 21 2012, 02:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 1-July 05 From: New York City Member No.: 424 |
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Jul 21 2012, 02:22 AM
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Member Group: Admin Posts: 976 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Pistachios rather than peanuts? Is this something new? TTT Peanuts = Standard Def Pistachios = High Def Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Jul 21 2012, 06:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 1-July 05 From: New York City Member No.: 424 |
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Jul 21 2012, 06:44 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings?........ [*]Crashing of sky crane ..... There will be no tone for that. Once the descent stage ( and the hardware is descent stage - the maneuver is 'sky crane' ) begins it's fly-away, it is silent. There could be no descent-stage impact tone. Moreover - as has been mentioned in this thread, and on the landing press kit - the Earth sets behind the vehicle shortly after parachute deployment - so all the likely tones thereafter will not be heard - they're academic. |
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Jul 23 2012, 08:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
As we'll loose direct contact during parachutte phase, this means Earth set in Gale about this time so, Earth will rise roughtly another 12 hours+ after landing. So, we'll recover direct contact with Curiosity on August 6th at about 11 am PST or 18 UTC but it'll be still night time at Gale so I wonder if they'll wait till Sun rise.
Edited: from MSL Landing kit: "early relays makes about 15 hours after landing" but I understand it'll be from an Orbiter. Anyway, as the HGA will be deployed on a later sol, I guess we "could" talk to Curiosity using the RLGA...which goes back to my question whether or not we'll attempt to communicate after Earth rise (if of any interest). -------------------- |
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Jul 25 2012, 12:27 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 12-June 07 Member No.: 2392 |
Press release just out says Mars Odyssey orbit adjusted to allow bent-pipe data relay for MSL landing as planned.
Yay!! See: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/pr...2/07/24/DC45916 |
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Jul 28 2012, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1439 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
How much confidence is there in this site's ability to handle the traffic that it will experience on the EDL date? I know UMSF weathered past events pretty well. Is this expected to be no different?
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Jul 28 2012, 05:23 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Yes.
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Jul 30 2012, 10:57 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
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Jul 30 2012, 11:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 153 Joined: 4-May 11 From: Pardubice, CZ Member No.: 5979 |
MSL course fine tuned Sat night. It's interesting to compare all four TCMs: (please correct me in case of wrong numbers) 11.1.2012 : TCM-1 - 59 min burn(s) -> dv = 5,5 m/s 26.3.2012 : TCM-2 - 9 min burn(s) -> dv = 0,78 m/s 26.6.2012 : TCM-3 - 40 s burn(s) -> dv = 0,05 m/s 29.7.2012 : TCM-4 - 6 s burn(s) -> dv = 0,01 m/s All done by 8 Aerojet MR-111C thrusters (1 lbf each) |
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