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SpaceListener
post Jul 19 2012, 11:06 PM
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I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings?

I suspected that the tones would say every important milestone saying Ok or bad with tone alike to Moorse Code. Isn't it?

The milestones would be:
  1. Separating from the cruise spaceship
  2. Deploy the parachute
  3. Releasing the backshield
  4. Releasing the parachute
  5. Releasing the heatshield
  6. Starting the landing propulsion
  7. Distance from the surface
  8. Hovering on the surface
  9. Releasing the Curiosity
  10. Separating Rover
  11. Notification of Curiosity : Rover touchdown
  12. Flying away of sky crane
  13. Crashing of sky crane


End of 7 minutes of terror!
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Jul 19 2012, 06:06 PM) *
I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings?

So would I; all I could find from searching the web is this passage on pp. 99-100 of this 2009 discussion of Mars Science Laboratory Telecommunications System Design:

"Each timeline segment of EDL has its unique event schedule (parachute deployment, for example), and each segment will have a unique set of nominal and off nominal tones. The collection of tones, of which 256 are available, constitutes the MFSK dictionary."

Further search for an MSFK dictionary publicly available from NASA drew a blank. Is there a listing of the major nominal and off nominal tones?

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post Jul 19 2012, 11:42 PM
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I've not seen one publicly available.
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:26 AM
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The first pdf file I see by searching "descanso jpl msl telecom" is the most detailed document I could find.

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post Jul 20 2012, 06:36 AM
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Thanks Paolo. This is an excellent 5.46mb pdf document. Recommended reading to all. smile.gif
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post Jul 21 2012, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE (brellis @ Jul 6 2012, 07:01 PM) *
I'm going to the Planetfest thingie in Pasadena, bringing a BIG bag of pistachios!


Pistachios rather than peanuts? Is this something new?

TTT
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post Jul 21 2012, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (Tom Tamlyn @ Jul 20 2012, 07:08 PM) *
Pistachios rather than peanuts? Is this something new?

TTT


Peanuts = Standard Def
Pistachios = High Def

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post Jul 21 2012, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (RoverDriver @ Jul 20 2012, 10:22 PM) *
Peanuts = Standard Def
Pistachios = High Def

Paolo

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post Jul 21 2012, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (SpaceListener @ Jul 19 2012, 04:06 PM) *
I would like to know what are the X-Band tones and its meanings?........

[*]Crashing of sky crane

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There will be no tone for that. Once the descent stage ( and the hardware is descent stage - the maneuver is 'sky crane' ) begins it's fly-away, it is silent. There could be no descent-stage impact tone.

Moreover - as has been mentioned in this thread, and on the landing press kit - the Earth sets behind the vehicle shortly after parachute deployment - so all the likely tones thereafter will not be heard - they're academic.
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post Jul 23 2012, 08:04 AM
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As we'll loose direct contact during parachutte phase, this means Earth set in Gale about this time so, Earth will rise roughtly another 12 hours+ after landing. So, we'll recover direct contact with Curiosity on August 6th at about 11 am PST or 18 UTC but it'll be still night time at Gale so I wonder if they'll wait till Sun rise.

Edited: from MSL Landing kit: "early relays makes about 15 hours after landing" but I understand it'll be from an Orbiter. Anyway, as the HGA will be deployed on a later sol, I guess we "could" talk to Curiosity using the RLGA...which goes back to my question whether or not we'll attempt to communicate after Earth rise (if of any interest).



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post Jul 25 2012, 12:27 AM
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Press release just out says Mars Odyssey orbit adjusted to allow bent-pipe data relay for MSL landing as planned.

Yay!!

See: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/pr...2/07/24/DC45916
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post Jul 28 2012, 05:00 PM
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How much confidence is there in this site's ability to handle the traffic that it will experience on the EDL date? I know UMSF weathered past events pretty well. Is this expected to be no different?


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post Jul 28 2012, 05:23 PM
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Yes.


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post Jul 30 2012, 10:57 AM
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MSL course fine tuned Sat night.

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post Jul 30 2012, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (MahFL @ Jul 30 2012, 12:57 PM) *
MSL course fine tuned Sat night.

It's interesting to compare all four TCMs:
(please correct me in case of wrong numbers)

11.1.2012 : TCM-1 - 59 min burn(s) -> dv = 5,5 m/s
26.3.2012 : TCM-2 - 9 min burn(s) -> dv = 0,78 m/s
26.6.2012 : TCM-3 - 40 s burn(s) -> dv = 0,05 m/s
29.7.2012 : TCM-4 - 6 s burn(s) -> dv = 0,01 m/s

All done by 8 Aerojet MR-111C thrusters (1 lbf each)
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