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Nasa announces new rover mission to Mars in 2020
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:24 PM
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NASA plans Mars rover remake for 2020

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NASA today announced a $1.5 billion plan to build another Mars rover based on the design of its current Curiosity rover, with the intention of sending it to the Red Planet in 2020 and perhaps storing up samples for later return to Earth.

The move comes less than a year after the space agency said it couldn't afford to contribute $1.4 billion to the European-led Exomars missions, and it seems likely to stir new debate within the planetary science community. Hoped-for missions to other interplanetary destinations, such as the Jovian moon Europa, could conceivably be impacted further by the revised plans for Mars exploration.

John Grunsfeld, associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters, insisted that the budget could handle the new commitment. "This mission concept fits within the current and projected Mars exploration budget, builds on the exciting discoveries of Curiosity, and takes advantage of a favorable launch opportunity," he said in a NASA news release.

He said the future rover would be built on the same basic design used for the Curiosity rover, which landed on Mars in August, and thus capitalize on the design work that was done during Curiosity's development for its $2.5 billion Mars Science Laboratory mission. Like Curiosity, the new rover would be nuclear-powered, thanks to a spare radioisotope thermoelectric generator, Grunsfeld said.

Grunsfeld announced the plan during a town-hall session at the American Geophysical Union's fall meeting in San Francisco. Based on Twitter updates from the meeting, reaction was deeply mixed. "NASA town meeting audience is very quiet," Lindy Elkins-Tanton of the Carnegie Institution of Washington tweeted. "I think we are all in shock."

Projected budget cuts have cast a pall of uncertainty over future plans for interplanetary probes, but the idea of bringing samples back from Mars for study on Earth is on top of planetary scientists' priority list for the next decade. Grunsfeld told his AGU audience that the rover could have the capability to gather and store samples for later return, depending on how its science mission is defined.

NASA said a science definition team would be selected to outline the mission's objectives, and that the selection of science and instruments for the mission would then be openly competed. The mission would also help lay the groundwork for eventual human exploration of Mars, the agency said.

"The Obama administration is committed to a robust Mars exploration program," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in today's statement. "With this next mission, we're ensuring America remains the world leader in the exploration of the Red Planet, while taking another significant step toward sending humans there in the 2030s."

Two rovers are currently in operation on Mars — Curiosity and Opportunity. Meanwhile, three working spacecraft are orbiting the Red Planet: the European Space Agency's Mars Express as well as NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Mars Odyssey orbiter. Next year, NASA is due to launch the $500 million MAVEN orbiter to study Mars' upper atmosphere. In 2016, NASA plans to send a $425 million lander called InSight to delve into Mars' depths.

NASA also plans to participate in the European Space Agency's Exomars program by contributing radios for an orbiter and lander due for launch in 2016, as well as scientific apparatus for a 2018 rover. But the space agency had to trim back its commitment to Exomars early this year, in large part due to the need to cover cost overruns on the James Webb Space Telescope. The Russian Space Agency is filling the gap left by NASA's pullback.

U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who has been critical of past cutbacks in NASA's planetary science program, applauded the plan announced today.

"In its few short months on Mars, Curiosity has broadened our understanding of our planetary neighbor, and the findings announced thus far point to even greater discoveries as Curiosity continues to explore Gale Crater and Mount Sharp," Schiff said in a written statement. "An upgraded rover with additional instrumentation and capabilities is a logical next step that builds upon now-proven landing and surface operations systems."

However, Schiff said he favored launching the rover in 2018 — when the alignment of Earth and Mars is more favorable, permitting the launch of a heavier payload. "I will be working with NASA, the White House and my colleagues in Congress to see whether advancing the launch date is possible, and what it would entail," he said.
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- Mongo   Nasa announces new rover mission to Mars in 2020   Dec 4 2012, 11:24 PM
- - mcaplinger   http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/newsaudio/i...ml#.U...   Jul 8 2013, 09:13 PM
- - ollopa   Anyone have a link to the report? It's suppos...   Jul 9 2013, 06:25 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (ollopa @ Jul 9 2013, 08:25 PM) Any...   Jul 9 2013, 06:33 PM
- - Paolo   and images for the briefing have appeared http://w...   Jul 9 2013, 06:43 PM
- - Explorer1   Ouch! Keith Cowing poses the tough questions a...   Jul 9 2013, 07:43 PM
- - acastillo   I am so glad that they are putting a cache on this...   Jul 11 2013, 10:20 PM
|- - JRehling   The nice thing about a cache is that it has no tim...   Jul 12 2013, 04:58 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Absolutely right! It doesn't have to be an...   Jul 12 2013, 05:14 PM
- - Jaro_in_Montreal   According to an article in Aviation Week, “While ...   Jul 15 2013, 12:38 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Jaro_in_Montreal @ Jul 14 2013, 05...   Jul 15 2013, 12:52 AM
- - djellison   It's assumed to be an RTG at this point, but a...   Jul 15 2013, 12:51 AM
- - elakdawalla   In my former life as an environmental consultant I...   Jul 15 2013, 06:58 PM
|- - Jaro_in_Montreal   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jul 15 2013, 07:58 P...   Jul 16 2013, 01:01 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Jaro_in_Montreal @ Jul 15 2013, 06...   Jul 16 2013, 02:35 AM
- - nprev   Precisely. There's no choice here, and there...   Jul 16 2013, 04:01 AM
- - Paolo   sorry to resurrect this old thread: wasn't the...   Dec 23 2013, 06:57 PM
|- - pospa   QUOTE (Paolo @ Dec 23 2013, 07:57 PM) was...   Dec 23 2013, 07:08 PM
|- - stone   A few people I know prepare alot of paperwork late...   Dec 23 2013, 10:11 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (pospa @ Dec 23 2013, 08:08 PM) It ...   Dec 23 2013, 11:38 PM
- - mcaplinger   Instrument proposals for 2020 were due a half hour...   Jan 16 2014, 05:31 AM
- - craigmcg   I will be curious to see if this rover is able to ...   Feb 17 2014, 12:54 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (craigmcg @ Feb 17 2014, 04:54 AM) ...   Feb 17 2014, 04:11 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (craigmcg @ Feb 17 2014, 04:54 AM) ...   Feb 17 2014, 04:20 PM
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- - craigmcg   I guess to save roughly $1 billion in mission...   Feb 17 2014, 06:52 PM
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- - Harder   “If you expect any of those to change for Mars 202...   Feb 17 2014, 07:26 PM
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|- - vjkane   The real tradeoff is between time spent doing scie...   Feb 17 2014, 09:08 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Harder @ Feb 17 2014, 11:26 AM) Wh...   Feb 17 2014, 09:10 PM
- - Explorer1   They haven't even settled on a power source: s...   Feb 17 2014, 08:45 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Explorer1 @ Feb 17 2014, 12:45 PM)...   Feb 17 2014, 09:23 PM
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|- - JRehling   Regarding's Doug's "Really?" to ...   Feb 19 2014, 05:47 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 19 2014, 09:47 AM) ...   Feb 19 2014, 08:47 PM
|- - Doug M.   QUOTE (JRehling @ Feb 19 2014, 07:47 PM) ...   Feb 20 2014, 02:30 PM
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|- - vjkane   QUOTE (craigmcg @ Feb 18 2014, 03:01 AM) ...   Feb 19 2014, 08:43 PM
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- - mcaplinger   "Better is the enemy of good enough."   Feb 19 2014, 02:16 PM
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- - nprev   And in military aviation as well, believe me.   Feb 20 2014, 11:04 PM
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- - DEChengst   Instruments just got announced: http://www.nasa.g...   Jul 31 2014, 06:03 PM
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|- - vjkane   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Dec 28 2014, 06:49 AM) Ye...   Dec 28 2014, 05:05 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vjkane @ Dec 28 2014, 06:05 PM) My...   Dec 28 2014, 07:38 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Dec 28 2014, 12:38 PM) In...   Dec 28 2014, 08:34 PM
|- - vjkane   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Dec 28 2014, 11:38 AM) In...   Dec 28 2014, 11:47 PM
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