Duck Bay, New update from Steve |
Duck Bay, New update from Steve |
Sep 21 2006, 05:55 PM
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Sep 21 2006, 06:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 688 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Sweden Member No.: 273 |
I know a place that could fit the description! If you go (much) south from Buenos Aires, you'll get to "Peninsula Valdes". There, you'll find sea Lions as well as "Pinguinos de Magallanes "(not sure how to write this but this means Magellan) where there's a collony of about one Million Pinguins. It clearly looks like a bay on the South side and that's also a breeding place for a type of Whale in the month of june only. Ocean is quite calm there. This correspond to the description. I've been there back in 1988 but my slides are not digitalised. That is the Punta Tombo colony, which is the only large penguin colony on the mainland of a continent anywhere in the World. Incidentally there are some "Patos" there too, large and flightless steamer ducks, and they may have been more numerous back then. tty |
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Sep 21 2006, 07:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Tesheiner, I was just preparing my version when your's appeared! Good news is I agree 100% with you! My image shows a few more features I've identified: Good to know that. For those four features to the left (incl. bright outcrop & beacon) I was a bit doubtful about their location. Actually I was temped to place the beacon on the next cape to the left of your proposed placement (and the same as I point in my route map), but your proposal is quite convincent. Just let me (or somebody else) do a couple of distance measurements via parallax to confirm it; or did you do it already? |
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Sep 21 2006, 07:45 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Arlington, Virginia Member No.: 159 |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Relevant page from the book is attached. Thanks Babakm, description is very consistant to what I know. Bahia Blanca is about half way from Buenos Aires to Punta Tombo/Peninsula Valdes and as pointed by tty, that's the only place where we can find out pinguins. I love this thread. I think we'll have fun to find out the places visited by Magellan corresponding of the naming as the Mer team release more and more "official" names. Will be nice to have this in a more general thread instead of just here in Duck Bay -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 21-September 06 Member No.: 1173 |
Good to know that. For those four features to the left (incl. bright outcrop & beacon) I was a bit doubtful about their location. Actually I was temped to place the beacon on the next cape to the left of your proposed placement (and the same as I point in my route map), but your proposal is quite convincent. Just let me (or somebody else) do a couple of distance measurements via parallax to confirm it; or did you do it already? Hi guys (and gals?), longtime stealth reader since discovering UMSF a few months ago when we were at Erebus. Great image stitching, colorizing, rover locating and commentary, etc. on the Oppy threads. If I had DSL at home, I'd have to get my wife one of those widow cards. Hey, Tesh, I found your misplaced Beacon while reading a local paper....seems someone moved it recently... Beacon Perhaps someone could photoshop it and place it to scale on Victoria's rim at it's proper location ..... on the near-rim. |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Extending on my previous post I picked some distances using AlgorimancerPG tool with the following results:
Beacon: 150m (aprox.) --> Match! Left outcrop: 80-90m --> Match! Fredk, you got it! And I now think we are also seeing Cabo Verde. The feature highlighted in yellow (see below) is at the proper heading and at a range of 120m. Match too! |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Forest of Dean Member No.: 617 |
The name (bahia - pronounced ba-'i-a, h not pronounced, stress on second syllable) is an archaic spelling of the Portuguese word meaning "bay" and comes from "a baía de Todos os Santos" (All Saints' Bay...) (Bahia is a state of Brazil...) Monstrously off-topic -sorry- but: there's a flamenco song 'Bahia de Cadiz', by Camaron and Paco de Lucia... recorded in the late 70s. (Disclaimer: I know almost nothing about Theoretical or Applied Spanish!) -------------------- --
Viva software libre! |
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Sep 21 2006, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2922 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
Monstrously off-topic -sorry- but: there's a flamenco song 'Bahia de Cadiz', by Camaron and Paco de Lucia... recorded in the late 70s. (Disclaimer: I know almost nothing about Theoretical or Applied Spanish!) Yes, Monstrously off-topic Flamingos are NOT ducks -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2006, 09:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Your right Tesheiner, it was late here so I took a bit of a guess at that one - should know better than to do that these days.
James, what you're saying is that none of the high peaks showing up in my stretched image are one of the referred promontories?...So...Where are they?... Right, I think it's quite the opposite in fact. It's looking to me like the capes slope downward toward there ends. Tesheiner has already pointed it out in the navcams but here is Cape Verde in the pancams: James -------------------- |
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Sep 21 2006, 10:11 PM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
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Sep 21 2006, 10:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 26-June 04 From: Austria Member No.: 89 |
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Sep 21 2006, 10:39 PM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
I think the one in odave's post quacks better....
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Sep 22 2006, 01:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 209 |
Hey, if it looks like a duck....
[sorry, that had to come out sooner or later ] -------------------- --O'Dave
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Sep 22 2006, 05:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4256 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Tesheiner, I think we're pretty close on identifying these features. I only disagree with you on the "sluffing slab", what you highlight in yellow. I think it's closer than you put it. Here's my final iteration using the pancam image:
In particular, the Beacon (farthest left feature) seems pretty certain, and it does agree with the route map position you've given all along. I put the sluffing slab closer because it looks to me that the next feature I've marked to the left of it is the cliff on the near side of Cabo Verde (Cape A1), and the slab appears to be in front of it. Anyway, this is of course difficult because of the saturated whites in the pancam image and because it's hard to get accurate parallax distances that far away, and we're pushing the limits of the satellite image. All this should be clearer after some movement! |
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