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Apr 17 2005, 01:32 PM
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Didn't Spirit have 2 problems with its wheels? The current spike caused by lubricant moving around, which has since been resolved - they turned the wheel off for the most part only turning it occasionally while drivning to clear the debris that built up in fornt of it while being dragged. And also the same problem Oppy has right now of a problem with the steering actuator?
Spirit steering problem thread: http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...eering+actuator |
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Apr 17 2005, 02:00 PM
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I believe the trench is a byproduct of trying to resolve the mechanical problem by having some force on the wheel from the side. Driving back didn't help, so maybe turning will.
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Apr 17 2005, 02:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 14-March 05 Member No.: 195 |
How much for a tow?
How far is the next filling station? This is definitely going to require a rotation of the tires soon. That's what we get for being to cheap to buy the Martian "onstar" package. I hope the trade in is still good enough for a down payment on a new one. scott |
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Apr 17 2005, 03:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 5-November 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 107 |
Ok, I just want to get this right.
It is the wheel steering motor for changing direction that maybe is broken? The actual drive motor is still working right? If it is only turned 7 degrees I think they still could drive pretty good backward not even dragging the wheel, just making some corrections from time to time. The good thing is that it is not turned much more than it is. If it was turned 90 degrees it could really have been difficult to drive -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Apr 17 2005, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2492 Joined: 15-January 05 From: center Italy Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE (TheChemist @ Apr 17 2005, 09:48 AM) I guess they could tell us, but then they'd have to kill us. News through, let's say, "informal channels" presented in this board in the past have always been accurate. In fact this is one of the main advantages of this place. I prefer not to ask many questions and just enjoy the priveleges of being part of this community Doug kindly provided us with Completely agree with you! This is exactly the reason I'm proud to partecipate to this Forum! Here I found deep knowdlege, experienced (and patient) people and timely informations. Really, cannot ask anything better, I'm very lucky and I strongly hope discussion level will remain always so high! Thanks to all this fantastic people! (and good luck to Oppy!!!!!! ) -------------------- I always think before posting! - Marco -
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Apr 17 2005, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1887 Joined: 20-November 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 110 |
I suspect turning in place would be more difficult when oppy reaches solid ground. Are there steering actuators on all six wheels or just the four on the corners? Could it be possible to turn all the wheels 7 degrees to match then drive at an angle like a car with a bent frame, probably have to rewrite the navigation software again.
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Apr 17 2005, 03:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 5-November 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 107 |
QUOTE (alan @ Apr 17 2005, 03:57 PM) I suspect turning in place would be more difficult when oppy reaches solid ground. Are there steering actuators on all six wheels or just the four on the corners? Could it be possible to turn all the wheels 7 degrees to match then drive at an angle like a car with a bent frame, probably have to rewrite the navigation software again. They can only steer on the fronts and rears For the turning, just switch to "tank mode" -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Apr 17 2005, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (dilo @ Apr 17 2005, 03:32 PM) QUOTE (TheChemist @ Apr 17 2005, 09:48 AM) I guess they could tell us, but then they'd have to kill us. News through, let's say, "informal channels" presented in this board in the past have always been accurate. In fact this is one of the main advantages of this place. I prefer not to ask many questions and just enjoy the priveleges of being part of this community Doug kindly provided us with Completely agree with you! This is exactly the reason I'm proud to partecipate to this Forum! Here I found deep knowdlege, experienced (and patient) people and timely informations. Really, cannot ask anything better, I'm very lucky and I strongly hope discussion level will remain always so high! Thanks to all this fantastic people! (and good luck to Oppy!!!!!! ) True, this forum has been able to keep the nuts out. I haven't followed it closely enough to know that certain people have inside knowledge and their info has always right. I'll take your word for it. |
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Apr 17 2005, 08:10 PM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
One thing to keep in mind -- we are not the press release people
They actually do exist somewhere, they are just really slow at times... |
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Apr 17 2005, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (Pando @ Apr 17 2005, 10:10 PM) One thing to keep in mind -- we are not the press release people They actually do exist somewhere, they are just really slow at times... yes. definitely the best Mars Rover related forum out there also very good: the mars board at Phil Plait's great "Bad Astronomy" site ...but not so much traffic over there ... |
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Apr 17 2005, 10:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 5-November 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 107 |
Would a solution to keep the rover driving in a straight line not be to drive with the same 7 degrees of "toe in" on the left front wheel?
Like this: And perhaps doing it while driving backward for the best efficiency. Any thoughts? -------------------- "I want to make as many people as possible feel like they are part of this adventure. We are going to give everybody a sense of what exploring the surface of another world is really like"
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Apr 17 2005, 11:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A. Member No.: 86 |
It seems to me like that would work, though it seems to me it would drag a bit..
If the motor is purposely disabled so that the rover can move forward (or backward), will the wheel then be locked at 7 degrees? Or will it turn freely, flopping whereever fate takes it? Or can the software simply be updated to not try to adjust the right front steering motor, thereby allowing it the possibility of 'fixing itself' while not requiring Mission Control to permanently disable the motor? |
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Apr 18 2005, 12:31 AM
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Were famous.... On spacedaily here is the Article.....
Mars Rover Opportunity Has Broken Wheel Motor Opportunities right wheel actuator stalled on Sol 433. Los Angeles, CA (SPX) Apr 16, 2005 NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has experienced a significant breakdown with the suspected failure of the front right wheel motor. According to a report posted on Doug Ellison's renowned Mars forum Unmannedspaceflight.com, "Opportunity's right front steering actuator stalled near the end of the drive on sol 433 (after 150 meters of driving). "On sol 434, they backed up a meter or so and tried to straighten the wheel, but the steering motor stalled again without moving at all. Imaging doesn't show any reason for the stall. The wheel is about 7 degrees off from straight, which would still be driveable if they can't resolve the problem." In the immediate period to the breakdown, Opportunity has reached Viking Crater, before continuing to Voyager Crater, taking panoramas of each crater and conducting detailed surface inspections. During this period the Mars Odyssey orbiter also went into safe mode causing a suspension of data relay to Earth. Driving resumed on sol 428 with data downlinked via the direct-to-Earth link. With the exception of the miniature thermal emission spectrometer (analysis is still in progress), Opportunity is in excellent health. |
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Apr 18 2005, 01:12 AM
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Does anyone have an update on where things stand now.
The latest images are available for Sol 437. More end of the track pixs. With a complete panorama. I assume there will be a workaround soon enough for MER-B and onward it shall be. simon at spacedaily.com |
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Apr 18 2005, 08:56 AM
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Hopefully we might get some idea of whats going on after the latest images are posted.......they shouldn't be too long
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