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Posted by: Sunspot Aug 28 2004, 12:39 PM

Are all of the images from Cassini being posted on the RAW website? The latest status report mentions mosaics of the rings:

"Science activities this week included optical remote sensing (ORS) scans of
Saturn's south pole as well as Ultraviolet Imaging Spectrograph mosaics of
Saturn's magnetosphere. Imaging Science Subsystem (ISS) performed mosaics
and movies of the rings and Saturn's south pole."

Can any Cassini insiders here shed any light on this?

Posted by: Sunspot Aug 30 2004, 07:54 PM

From Cassini's RAW website:

"The Cassini raw image processing system is being upgraded. During this period, the spacecraft will continue to take data and images. The upgrade process will be completed by Sept. 3. Once the upgrade is complete, all raw images received during this period will be available on the web. "

I wonder if they are adding the RAW data from earlier in the mission. I can't wait to see the images of Jupiter blink.gif blink.gif

Posted by: volcanopele Aug 31 2004, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (Sunspot @ Aug 30 2004, 12:54 PM)
From Cassini's RAW website:

"The Cassini raw image processing system is being upgraded. During this period, the spacecraft will continue to take data and images. The upgrade process will be completed by Sept. 3. Once the upgrade is complete, all raw images received during this period will be available on the web. "

I wonder if they are adding the RAW data from earlier in the mission. I can't wait to see the images of Jupiter blink.gif blink.gif

I haven't heard anything but I am hoping that the way the images are stretched will be changed.

Posted by: Sunspot Sep 3 2004, 10:31 AM

The latest RAW images are being added to the website, but I dont see any diference to it or the images. huh.gif

Posted by: volcanopele Sep 3 2004, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Sunspot @ Sep 3 2004, 03:31 AM)
The latest RAW images are being added to the website, but I dont see any diference to it or the images. huh.gif

yeah, I just looked at them too. For me it's not that big of a deal, but I can understand if others out there are frustrated with JPL.

Posted by: peter59 Aug 21 2007, 07:06 PM

This is my little contribution for the Unmanned Spaceflight community.

New software dedicated for fast preview Cassini's Raw Images Archive
(Coiss_2001 to Coiss_2025 volumes)
http://members.tripod.com/petermasek/CassiniView.zip

I have problem with auto stretch, I hope next version will be better.

Posted by: alan Aug 21 2007, 07:16 PM

That didn't work:

CODE
This file is hosted by Tripod, a Lycos®Network Site, and is not available for download. Please check out Tripod's Help system for more information about Remote Loading and our Remote Loading policy.

Posted by: peter59 Aug 21 2007, 07:23 PM

OK, please review the attached program.

 CassiniView.zip ( 254.34K ) : 531
 

Posted by: ugordan Aug 21 2007, 07:40 PM

Wow, this is real neat.
I was planning on doing something similar that would also feature calibration ability, but was too lazy to ever do anything about it.

Great work, this will come in handy when browsing the cryptic image filenames! One thing I do with my image filenames upon calibration is include filter combo and 2 letter acronym of the target for quick navigation, it might be useful if you could do something similar in the image title bar - just to help quickly identify what you're looking at.

Posted by: tedstryk Aug 21 2007, 08:16 PM

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: peter59 Aug 22 2007, 07:39 PM

This newer version of CassiniView, originally dedicated for
Coiss_2001 to Coiss_2025 volumes (Data from Saturn Approach
to End of Mission), was adjusted for properly work with
Coiss_1001 to Coiss_1009 volumes (Cruise and Jupiter Encounter Data).

Additionally "target name" was added after "file name" on top
of open window for better orientation.

 CassiniView.zip ( 254.34K ) : 504
 

Posted by: scalbers Feb 29 2008, 10:43 PM

Greetings,

I was getting some errors on the Cassini Raw Images page when attempting to call up the Dione Narrow Angle images from 9/30/2007. I wonder if anyone else is seeing such errors?

Thanks,

Steve

................................................................................
....................................................

The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error.
Please contact the website administrator.

The following information is meant for the website developer for debugging purposes.
Error Occurred While Processing Request
corrupt table

The error occurred in /data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/qry_getFeiImageInfoCache.cfm: line 52
Called from /data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm: line 231
Called from /data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm: line 1

50 : from tblFEIImage f
51 : where
52 : #PreserveSingleQuotes(storedQuery)#
53 : f.flagRelease=1 and
54 : f.isArchived=0

Resources:

* Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax.
* Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.

Browser Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071015 SUSE/2.0.0.8-1.1 Firefox/2.0.0.8
Remote Address 137.75.100.142
Referrer http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/index.cfm
Date/Time 29-Feb-08 02:42 PM
Stack Trace
at cfqry_getFeiImageInfoCache2ecfm278844408.runPage(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/qry_getFeiImageInfoCache.cfm:52) at cfraw2dimages2dlist2ecfm1835561791._factor6(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm:231) at cfraw2dimages2dlist2ecfm1835561791.runPage(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm:1)

java.lang.IllegalStateException: corrupt table
at coldfusion.util.LruCache.reap(LruCache.java:214)
at coldfusion.util.LruCache.get(LruCache.java:190)
at coldfusion.sql.Executive.getCachedQuery(Executive.java:1262)
at coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag.setupCachedQuery(QueryTag.java:708)
at coldfusion.tagext.sql.QueryTag.doEndTag(QueryTag.java:517)
at cfqry_getFeiImageInfoCache2ecfm278844408.runPage(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/qry_getFeiImageInfoCache.cfm:52)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:366)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.java:2644)
at cfraw2dimages2dlist2ecfm1835561791._factor6(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm:231)
at cfraw2dimages2dlist2ecfm1835561791.runPage(/data/cassini/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm:1)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:192)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:366)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65)
at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:279)
at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:70)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:74)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilt
er.java:28)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke(RequestThrottleFilter.java:126)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:175)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86)
at coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilte
r.java:42)
at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94)
at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:106)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:284)
at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Posted by: ElkGroveDan Feb 29 2008, 11:45 PM

Yes I was getting stuff like that when I was looking for the latest Janus images yesterday.

Posted by: jasedm Mar 3 2008, 04:31 PM

It seems the raw images pages are subject to problems again, with the same error message noted by Steve when attempting an image search.
This is such a wonderful facility, it's easy to take it for granted and get a bit impatient when it's offline. Nothing for a week or so now....I'm eagerly awaiting the NAC scan of the Maxwell gap area from yesterday's periapse observations.
........must learn patience.....

Posted by: OWW Mar 3 2008, 05:03 PM

It's not only the raw images page that's broken. What's up with the "Where's Cassini now" page? Lately it's been showing Cassini's position on January 21th....every day. I'd love to see the PRESENT position during the upcoming Enceladus flyby. unsure.gif

Posted by: jasedm Mar 5 2008, 02:38 PM

Raw images now fixed, but present position still stuck stubbornly on 21st January..

Posted by: jasedm Jun 16 2008, 06:40 PM

Some raws from 9th June appeared today (NAC ring images) which were taken during periapse last week.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-list.cfm?StartRow=1&cacheQ=1&browseLatest=1&storedQ=1668421
There are data missing from this batch of raws represented by horizontal gaps/lines in the images - does anyone know what causes this intermittent problem? (the lines have appeared on a small percentage of earlier images)
Is it a software issue, or camera scanning, or data recorder issues, or problems with DSN reception of the data??
These have appeared later than they normally would, which would seem to indicate a problem getting them down - just curious.....

Posted by: volcanopele Jun 16 2008, 07:28 PM

Usually these are caused by DSN data dropouts or errors in transmitting the data from DSN to JPL. These images are tagged as preliminary in the hope that those gaps will be filled by more data coming down the pipeline, either from the DSN or by another pass through the Cassini SSR (though the latter is only done for high priority data). After a week, if those prelim images haven't been fixed, they are changed to final images, which allows their release on the JPL raw images page.

Posted by: jasedm Jun 17 2008, 01:30 PM

Thanks VP for that very clear explanation.
Had these been near-encounter Enceladus images then (for example), the likelihood is that the contents of the SSR would have been re-transmitted on another DSN pass.

Posted by: peter59 Jun 23 2008, 03:33 PM

The analysis of these unusual images may help to determine vertical structure of Saturn's clouds. High clouds are clearly visible on Saturn's nightside

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS41/W00046798.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS41/W00046822.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS41/W00046846.jpg

Posted by: tasp Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM

Are those 'blobs' like thunderheads sticking up above the dark hemisphere, or are we seeing buoyant gas balls off the limb ??

Freaky strange pictures either way. Doesn't look like comparable Voyager Neptune shot at all.



Posted by: scalbers Jun 23 2008, 05:23 PM

Perhaps these are slightly higher clouds that catch the light better as we progress across the terminator? This type of thing would happen with high cirrus or cumulonimbus clouds on earth in twilight.

Steve

Posted by: Sunspot Jun 23 2008, 06:04 PM

Lots of storm clouds

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/raw-images-details.cfm?feiImageID=160116
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7468832.stm

Posted by: tallbear Jul 9 2008, 09:13 PM

Is there some way to "automatically" grab a series of sequential images from the RAW JPEG web site ?

I use IDL.... not sure if I can do it from inside IDL....

I've been told it's possible using JAVA ... but I'm totally Java Handicapped <G>

T

Posted by: peter59 Sep 23 2008, 08:42 PM

New ISS DVD is now available at the PDS.
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/cassini/cassini_orbiter/coiss_2038/

Posted by: ugordan Sep 23 2008, 08:47 PM

QUOTE (peter59 @ Sep 23 2008, 10:42 PM) *
New ISS DVD is now available at the PDS.

Damn, you're fast. I just checked the site a couple of hours ago!

Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: peter59 Sep 24 2008, 07:07 AM

Next new ISS DVDs are now available at the PDS.
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/cassini/cassini_orbiter/coiss_2039/
http://pdsimg.jpl.nasa.gov/data/cassini/cassini_orbiter/coiss_2040/

Posted by: Floyd Sep 27 2008, 03:46 PM

No new images from Cassini on the website since September 20 (A few from August posted since). I assume the problem is with the Cassini website and not the space craft. Anyone know what's up? We have the next Enceladus in 12 days.

Posted by: rlorenz Sep 27 2008, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Floyd @ Sep 27 2008, 11:46 AM) *
No new images from Cassini on the website since September 20 (A few from August posted since). I assume the problem is with the Cassini website and not the space craft. Anyone know what's up? We have the next Enceladus in 12 days.


Conjunction was earlier this month

Posted by: jasedm Sep 28 2008, 12:17 PM

There has been at least one downlink since conjunction (probably more). Perhaps the webmaster is on holiday???

Posted by: Floyd Sep 28 2008, 03:06 PM

Conjunction was Sept 1-7 and there were zero pictures on cassini site if you search 09/02/2008- 09/07/2008. Every day since then we have between 1 and 202 images, 09/20/2008-09/21/2008 = 43 images. From 09/21/2008 through 09/28/2008=Zero. Webmaster holiday may be the cause. cool.gif
I sent an e-mail today to the Cassini Contact Us, but it may get fixed faster if someone from the Cassini team contacts the webmaster.

[Edit] Got the meaningless auto reply thanking me for my e-mail tongue.gif

Posted by: ngunn Sep 28 2008, 04:28 PM

I wonder which will turn up first - the raw image containing Kraken Mare or a processed version? wink.gif

Posted by: rlorenz Sep 29 2008, 01:05 AM

QUOTE (tallbear @ Jul 9 2008, 05:13 PM) *
Is there some way to "automatically" grab a series of sequential images from the RAW JPEG web site ?

I use IDL.... not sure if I can do it from inside IDL....


I confronted a similar problem recently having to download 3000-odd Pioneer Venus
ephemeris files (created when 45K/orbit was a big deal, I guess)

I found a downloadable PC program called Getbot (and I am sure there are many others
with similar capability, maybe there are some that are free) that was $20 and works well.
You can select a load of files if under the same directory, or you can paste in a list of
urls and it will hit them in sequence.

(I used an IDL script to generate my list of files as a text file, as they were spread
across 68 directories [corresponding to 68 CD-ROMs) in a rather uneven way
- 40 orbits on one, 200 on another, etc. so I had to use a for-next loop with custom limits
for each CD rom..... huge pain, but beat the heck out of right-clicking 3000 times and waiting..)

Posted by: jasedm Sep 29 2008, 12:59 PM

I'm looking forward to the Tethys observations (range between ~110,000 and ~160,000km). The earlier of these will show similar terrain to the best global views achieved by Voyager 2 (Telemachus, Ajax, Polyphemus, Phemius etc) - it will be intersting to compare the differing qualities of the NAC optics of the two craft.

Posted by: scalbers Sep 29 2008, 03:03 PM

Perhaps we'll see an improvement in resolution over previous imagery (combined Voyager/Cassini) in an area north of Telemachus, though it would be near the terminator.

Posted by: ngunn Sep 29 2008, 09:38 PM

Well, we seem to have some new raw images now, including the Kraken Mare ones. smile.gif

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS44/N00120322.jpg

Posted by: elakdawalla Sep 29 2008, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (tallbear @ Jul 9 2008, 01:13 PM) *
Is there some way to "automatically" grab a series of sequential images from the RAW JPEG web site ?

Yes. Use http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/ (which is also what the Imaging Node wants you to use to grab files from their servers). Use the scripting language or software of your choice to generate a plain text file containing the sequential URLs, one per line (I use Excel for this, since I'm not much of a programmer). Then go to a command prompt and type

CODE
wget -i list.txt


Where "list.txt" is the name of your text file containing the list of filenames.

But that's actually a harder way to do it than the following. Wget is really designed to grab whole folders (even whole websites). Give the following command line a shot:
CODE
wget -r -np -e robots=off http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS44/


That grabs every image in the casJPGFullS44 folder...I just got all 1267 images in 2 minutes. Pick out whichever sequences you want from that folder. Wget is my friend!!

--Emily

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Nov 28 2008, 07:27 PM

No new images at the raw images page this week. Hopefully everything is OK though - on November 24 Cassini was supposed to obtain stereo coverage of Tethys' southern hemisphere that I was interested in seeing (DEMs are fun!).

Posted by: scalbers Nov 28 2008, 08:02 PM

Yes, I'm also hoping the page will be up so we can see the non-targeted Enceladus flyby on Dec 2.

Posted by: tedstryk Nov 29 2008, 04:29 AM

QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Nov 28 2008, 08:27 PM) *
No new images at the raw images page this week. Hopefully everything is OK though - on November 24 Cassini was supposed to obtain stereo coverage of Tethys' southern hemisphere that I was interested in seeing (DEMs are fun!).


With the Thanksgiving holiday this week, if the raw page has a problem, there is a good chance no one is around to fix it.

Posted by: jasedm Dec 2 2008, 01:18 PM

As noted on other threads, there are some raw images now available from the last periapse pass, but there are big gaps in the image numbering.
There are for example no frames between N00124458 (a single Helene Image) and N000124650 (Mimas in front of Saturn's disc) The 'missing' frames would I imagine include further Helene shots with different filters, and the Tethys south polar stereo images - I hope the data wasn't lost sad.gif
The lone Helene image is taken gazing down into the large polar crater - see below enlarged, sharpened and enhanced.




 

Posted by: angel1801 Dec 3 2008, 09:57 AM

All of the Tethys, Helene and Enceladus images are now viewable on the raw image gallery.

Posted by: jasedm Dec 3 2008, 06:09 PM

Looks like the targeting of Helene was just a tiny bit off (the moon appears at the very edge of the NAC FOV in most of the raws from the latest flyby) - I wonder how much this is due to the moon 'wandering' from it's Lagrange point due to unaccounted-for perturbations by other objects?
It seems a portion of Cassini's time in most of the revolutions include 'orbit determination' images of the rocks - now we can see why this is important.
Perhaps this was why the planned images of Pallene a couple of orbits back didn't materialise...



Posted by: Stu Jan 25 2009, 11:25 AM

Interesting composition...

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=180738


Posted by: remcook Jan 25 2009, 07:57 PM

What's the star(?) it's pointing at? It's awfully bright.

THe picture next to it of Tethys isn't bad either:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=180739

Posted by: pat Jan 25 2009, 09:37 PM

QUOTE (jasedm @ Dec 3 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Looks like the targeting of Helene was just a tiny bit off (the moon appears at the very edge of the NAC FOV in most of the raws from the latest flyby) - I wonder how much this is due to the moon 'wandering' from it's Lagrange point due to unaccounted-for perturbations by other objects?
It seems a portion of Cassini's time in most of the revolutions include 'orbit determination' images of the rocks - now we can see why this is important.
Perhaps this was why the planned images of Pallene a couple of orbits back didn't materialise...


In this case the problem was with the spacecraft ephemeris used when calculating the camera pointing. There was an OTM between the time the camera pointing was calculated and the time it was uploaded to the spacecraft. The new post OTM ephemeris was only released shortly before the instructions for the sequence were sent to Cassini. The new trajectory was different enough that when combined with the out of date pointing it put Helene near the edge/partially off the NAC frame. The ephemeris for Helene is accurate, it was where it was expected to be -- its Cassini that wasn't where it was expected to be.

A similar situation applied for the Pallene images. On top of that it turned out that Pallene was also in Saturn's shadow at the time the images were taken, something that was overlooked when the observation was planned -- so even if the camera pointing had been updated with the latest spacecraft ephemeris we wouldn't have seen anything.

Posted by: volcanopele Jan 25 2009, 09:37 PM

According to the Looking Ahead article for Rev101:

http://ciclops.org/view/5461/Rev_101

That's Beta Crucis (or Mimosa).

Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 10:19 AM

Is it just me? For the last couple of days I haven't been able to view the most recent raw images. The thumbnails are blank except for the image numbers and attempts to open the full res versions are redirected to the site feedback form (which I have completed and sent).

I particularly wanted to see the latest Kraken Mare shots. If anybody does have them could they please post a specimen in a suitable thread?

Posted by: jamescanvin Feb 3 2009, 10:36 AM

Not just you - I've been having the same problem.

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Feb 3 2009, 11:59 AM

And same here - I was hoping to see images from yesterday's flyby of Rhea.

Posted by: ugordan Feb 3 2009, 01:06 PM

Works for me, at least from work. At home it's been dead slow ever since they updated the site.

Here's the Jan 31st Titan observation:


Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 01:28 PM

Beautiful! Did you do some processing or is the lake really that clear on the raws?

Posted by: ugordan Feb 3 2009, 02:05 PM

I did about the same kind of processing as for previous shots, couldn't find that thread to post it there, though.

Not sure if this'll work for you, but here are direct links to the raw images:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS47/N00128800.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS47/N00128801.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS47/N00128802.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS47/N00128803.jpg

Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 02:05 PM) *
Not sure if this'll work for you


Nope, but your version will do me just fine in the meantime. smile.gif

Posted by: Stu Feb 3 2009, 02:44 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 10:19 AM) *
Is it just me? For the last couple of days I haven't been able to view the most recent raw images.


I have to be honest, I'm really not a fan of the new look raw images site or format. It crawls at a snail's pace, and just doesn't seem as effecient to me. It's actually put me off visiting it.

Posted by: Juramike Feb 3 2009, 03:22 PM

I had the Cassini-Huygens home as my intitial page when starting up IE.

But the annoyingly slow "loading the player" has forced me to switch to something else.
(Did that drop their view count?)

I did fill out a feedback form. Hopefully if enough people comment, the website will improve.

-Mike

Posted by: Phil Stooke Feb 3 2009, 04:38 PM

Change for change's sake. All too common in cyberspace. Want to upgrade a site? Add more content. I use the Cassini site far less now than I did before.

Phil

Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 04:57 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 01:06 PM) *
Here's the Jan 31st Titan observation:



And here's the earlier Kraken Mare view for comparison:

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=16065

I notice a small bright spot in the middle of the southerly bay in the new image. Is it real? Gordan (anybody) - does it appear in all three raws?

It's either absent or a lot less prominent in the older image.

Island, cloud or artifact?

Posted by: ugordan Feb 3 2009, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 05:57 PM) *
Island, cloud or artifact?

It's a cosmic ray hit.

Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 05:23 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 05:02 PM) *
It's a cosmic ray hit.


OK but I've just been digging for the original discovery image of the lake and that does appear to have a feature in the same position:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=9505

I wonder if we're talking about the same thing?

Posted by: Sunspot Feb 3 2009, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Feb 3 2009, 04:38 PM) *
Change for change's sake. All too common in cyberspace. Want to upgrade a site? Add more content. I use the Cassini site far less now than I did before.

Phil


I'm finding it VERY slow to use too, but then my PC is over 8 years old. I have the RAW pages bookmarked, and go straight to them skipping the homepage. But even they seem a fair bit slower to navigate.

Posted by: ugordan Feb 3 2009, 06:46 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Feb 3 2009, 06:23 PM) *
I wonder if we're talking about the same thing?


Apparently not, but anything faint and ambiguous you see in these enhanced, raw views is very suspect.

Posted by: ngunn Feb 3 2009, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 3 2009, 06:46 PM) *
Apparently not


Actually yes! I've just tried the Cassini site again and was able to look at two of the three raws. (The third one 'opens' to reveal a couple of lines of random dialogue.) So now I can see that the cosmic ray is indeed the biggest contributor to what I was looking at - but it's still an interesting part of the lake that may not be totally 'blank' to ISS.


My reason for staring at marginally visible features within the lake is simple. There shouldn't be any! I'm not looking for changes, I'm looking for what stays the same. If some of the subtle features appear in the same place each time we view the lake then maybe they represent something real. Now while with SAR you can say we're seeing through the liquid to the lake bed beneath that shouldn't be so for the ISS images - unless the lake is very shallow, or indeed more of a mudflat.

However I'm not up to the job of taking the different Kraken views, reprojecting them and overlaying for direct comparison. What a pity . .

Posted by: peter59 Feb 5 2009, 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Feb 3 2009, 12:59 PM) *
And same here - I was hoping to see images from yesterday's flyby of Rhea.

Many new images of Rhea available.

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Feb 5 2009, 11:26 AM

And lots of interesting images of the F ring, including what's perhaps the most spectacular image I've ever seen of that ring:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=181948

Just WOW!

Posted by: Sunspot Feb 5 2009, 03:54 PM

These direct links to Cassini RAW images no longer work for me, is anyone else having problems viewing them?

Posted by: jamescanvin Feb 5 2009, 04:00 PM

Read http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=335&view=findpost&p=135367 on this very thread, where we talked about this problem.

It seems intermittent. That link Bjorn posted worked for me this morning but it's gone again now.

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Feb 5 2009, 04:34 PM

The direct link works for me but I'm posting the image here so everyone can have a look:


Posted by: mchan Feb 6 2009, 05:31 AM

Thanks for posting the image. Wow, that IS spectacular. Surreal.

Posted by: remcook Mar 26 2009, 12:34 PM

More high phase angle Enceladus spray pictures
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=186507

Posted by: ngunn Apr 15 2009, 07:17 PM

Just clicked on one of the latest batch of raw image thumbnails and got this message:

"Turn of a Narrow Ring","ISINSIDER":"0","STORYURL":"","ISFEATURED":"0","STORYI

What could that possibly mean?

Posted by: elakdawalla Apr 15 2009, 10:57 PM

It's just some kind of database error. That site just hasn't been the same since their redesign.

Posted by: lyford Apr 15 2009, 11:44 PM

Well, I would have gotten more excited if it said ""ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT ENCELADUS..." laugh.gif

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Apr 16 2009, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Apr 15 2009, 10:57 PM) *
It's just some kind of database error. That site just hasn't been the same since their redesign.

I have almost stopped looking at the raw JPGs after the redesign unless something particularly interesting is going on (e.g. the recent ring images). It's just too slow if you want to look at a lot of images and errors are too frequent. The only nice thing is that last time I checked links to the directories containing the images worked but they only contain the images - not the captions.

Posted by: Ian R Apr 20 2009, 11:50 PM

Here's my RGB version of the Titan crescent that's just appeared on the raw images page:


Posted by: ngunn May 13 2009, 09:09 PM

A good one this:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS50/W00056340.jpg

Posted by: Astro0 May 21 2009, 06:46 AM

This one is nice.

Pan's shadow.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS50/N00136255.jpg

Posted by: Stu Jul 3 2009, 01:42 PM

This one has lots to drool over..

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=194614


Posted by: jasedm Jul 3 2009, 06:52 PM

Stu,
I agree wholeheartedly.
This single image conveys a HUGE amount of information - It shows the Encke gap as part of Saturn's ring system (with associated ringlet), the Keeler gap, Prometheus and Atlas, Prometheus's gravitational effect on the F-ring, Prometheus's shadow across the f ring, cosmic ray hits, background stars, fine scale gradation within the A ring and so on. It's testament to the people that point the instruments on Cassini that they tease out the absolute maximum from every opportunity.
We are so privileged to be living in the era of a dedicated Saturn orbiter, and that the people that control it are so willing to share the raw data.

Now all we need are two more orbiters, one at Uranus and one at Neptune.....

Posted by: Stu Jul 13 2009, 10:21 PM

Heck of a shadow... ohmy.gif

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=195581

Posted by: ngunn Jul 31 2009, 12:41 PM

No new raw images since 10th July - one month before Saturn equinox. I'm assuming its an unfortunately timed summer vacation thing. Anybody know different?

Posted by: volcanopele Jul 31 2009, 04:21 PM

Not sure what is up with that page. I can assure you that images have been taken and have been brought back to Earth.

Posted by: ugordan Aug 4 2009, 11:57 PM

Several nice Janus shots from July 26 have appeared on the raw page, here's one false color IR3 + UV3 composite:


Posted by: peter59 Aug 5 2009, 10:21 AM

Single shot of Enceladus taken on July 26, 2009
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS52/N00139596.jpg

Posted by: CAP-Team Aug 5 2009, 08:31 PM

I had hoped this one was going to be spectacular, with Titan's shadow crossing the rings casting its shadow on Saturn:



The real raw image is quite dissappointing.. sad.gif
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=197633


Posted by: volcanopele Aug 5 2009, 09:13 PM

LOL, yeah, the observation may have been called TISATSHAD001... but, umm, yeah, the shadow is on the other side of Saturn at the time...

Regardless, these sequences have produced AWESOME images of Saturn. Already have Monday's as my desktop background.

Posted by: Phil Stooke Aug 5 2009, 09:17 PM

Janus isn't disappointing, though - it shows the same kinds of albedo variation - irregular darkish patches - that we saw on Epimetheus in its closest images. No other small satellites show the same kinds of markings. On Hyperion, for instance, the dark spots are much more concentrated in low points.

Phil

Posted by: ugordan Aug 5 2009, 09:24 PM

FWIW, I've also made a few Janus composites from PDS data some time ago. IR1/GRN/UV3 stuff, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/ugordan/3373668632/.

Posted by: Juramike Aug 5 2009, 10:27 PM

QUOTE (CAP-Team @ Aug 5 2009, 03:31 PM) *
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=197633


Is that Titan's shadow taking a chunk out of the outer ring?

Posted by: volcanopele Aug 5 2009, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (volcanopele @ Aug 5 2009, 02:13 PM) *
LOL, yeah, the observation may have been called TISATSHAD001... but, umm, yeah, the shadow is on the other side of Saturn at the time...

Regardless, these sequences have produced AWESOME images of Saturn. Already have Monday's as my desktop background.

Whoops, I should have clicked the actually link, not a bad shot though.

Posted by: tedstryk Aug 5 2009, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (peter59 @ Aug 5 2009, 11:21 AM) *
Single shot of Enceladus taken on July 26, 2009
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS52/N00139596.jpg

I swear it almost looks like giant impact basin sticking just over the terminator in the lower half of the image...probably a coincidence though.

Posted by: Juramike Aug 5 2009, 11:55 PM

Here's my shot at processing the Enceladus image - lotsa stuff got modified. (Full details on my flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/3792970819/):



-Mike

Posted by: Juramike Aug 28 2009, 06:59 PM

Crop from raw image http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=199701 of the F-ring and two crescent moons (slight gamma slide)

Some seriously cool gravitational effects!



Posted by: Juramike Aug 29 2009, 06:43 AM

Animated GIF of Prometheus (the inner moon) raising gravitational effects in the F-ring as it scoots past Pandora (the outer moon).


<Animated GIF: Click to animate>

-Mike

(The full size image can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/3866256011/in/set-72157622089931268)

(Two background stars can also be seen to move due to spacecraft motion in center-right and right in the image.)

Posted by: nprev Aug 29 2009, 06:56 AM

ohmy.gif <WHAM!!!><rubs sore jaw ruefully> That's breathtaking, Mike!

First time that I've ever really perceived the symmetry of the F-ring waves.

Posted by: Floyd Aug 29 2009, 02:41 PM

Really nice series of images of http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS53/N00141772.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Aug 29 2009, 03:08 PM

RGB composite, color-balanced to resemble http://www.flickr.com/photos/ugordan/258907722/ calibrated view:



Magnified 2x. I figure there's a 60/40 chance the image is upside-down, with north pointing down.

(Cue Phil)

Posted by: volcanopele Aug 29 2009, 08:23 PM

North is pretty much up. That view shows the leading hemisphere of Telesto, compared to previous observations that highlighted the trailing hemisphere.

Posted by: ugordan Aug 30 2009, 06:23 PM

Some of the most prominent spoke displays I ever saw from Cassini came down.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=200348

Too bad the images are downsampled and horribly artifacted (short exposures?). They aren't visible in saturnlit portion of the rings, but the low sun angle on the evening side really brings them out nicely.

Posted by: Bill Harris Aug 30 2009, 09:16 PM

The "spoke images" were pretty chunky, but have you seen the Ring shadow/Cassini (?) Gap display on Janus? N00141747 -55?


Link to initial GIF animation of the, uh, event:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2723114

Posted by: jasedm Aug 31 2009, 07:19 AM

Wow! That is quite something to behold Bill!
I would guess that's sunlight piercing the Encke gap and traversing Janus, rather than the Cassini division which isn't really a gap.
This is like a Cassini updating of the F ring shadow traversing Epimetheus which was captured fortuitously by one of the Voyagers all those years back.

Very cool.

Posted by: Bill Harris Aug 31 2009, 10:54 AM

You may very well be right; Cassini "Gap" is a mis-nomer, and that division is far too wide to produce an anti-shadow this narrow. I was probably thinking "a" gap and not a specific Gap. Look at the nature of the beast: you see sharp edge, narrow ringlet, then wide-diffuse edge. This made me think "generic Cassini", but it could easily be the Keeler, Enke or (here we go again) the Huygens Gap.

Those with ephemerides and Celestia can figure out the details, I'm just reportin' the news... smile.gif

Posted by: Bill Harris Sep 1 2009, 07:34 PM

This has to be from sunlight filtering through the Cassini Division.

Quick calculations, assuming a ring plane-to-Sun angle of 0.3 deg and a shaft-of-light width of 193 km (max. diam. of Janus) I get a gap width of some 36,000 km, which matches most closely to the Cassini Division. The widest gap, the Enke Gap, gives a shadow width of only 1.7 km, far too small. Also assumes an "infinitely distant point source" for the sunlight, so no penumbral effects.

Posted by: Juramike Sep 10 2009, 02:23 AM

Animation of spoke images taken September 7, 2009:


(Animated GIF: click to animate)

These are from Cassini raw images N00142200-21 taken with the Narrow Angle Camera from a distance of 3 million km.

The sequence was aligned, individual frames exposure balanced, then contrast-enhanced to bring out detail. This is a severely downsampled animation.

A 50% resolution sequence can be found on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/3905781190/


-Mike

Posted by: elakdawalla Sep 10 2009, 02:37 AM

Cool. The spokes are about as obvious here as they were to Voyager. Clearly there's a seasonal effect, but last time I talked to rings people about this (which was a couple years ago) opinions were divided on whether it was simply seasonal lighting conditions or that there was actually seasonality to the phenomenon of spoke formation (or maybe even both are in play). Anybody know what the status of that argument is?

Posted by: ugordan Sep 14 2009, 09:19 AM

Iapetus on September 13, two IR1/GRN/UV3 composites stacked and magnified 2x:



Nice to see some fairly good new images of this (at least visually) interesting moon.

Posted by: Hungry4info Sep 14 2009, 12:10 PM

Ahh wonderful! I love this moon smile.gif

Posted by: scalbers Sep 14 2009, 10:19 PM

Nice to see areas like Saragossa Terra and Seville Mons all in one view as they've often been fragmented in past imagery.

Posted by: ugordan Sep 15 2009, 11:44 AM

And September 14 sequence, same treatment:



Posted by: remcook Sep 15 2009, 12:25 PM

If you look at the limb you can see how non-spherical Iapetus really is. It reminds me of a paper mache ball or a circle cut out of paper by a 3-year old smile.gif

Posted by: Astro0 Sep 18 2009, 07:28 AM

OMG! ohmy.gif



There is a spectacular sequence of Saturn's rings showing 'spoke' features, moons, moon shadows and more.
Ultimately it will need cleaning up and stabilising, but this animation is just extra cool cool.gif
 Saturn.wmv ( 1.05MB ) : 505

I've reduced the image size to ~30% of original.
Will have to post a final 'celaned up' version elsewhere.

Astro0

Posted by: tedstryk Sep 21 2009, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 15 2009, 11:44 AM) *
And September 14 sequence, same treatment:

Beautiful. I shall have some fun with these when they hit the PDS.

Posted by: ngunn Sep 24 2009, 10:12 PM

I love this - the darkened rings (with spokes), and the overall composition in this particular square. I hope that this time when they release the processed mosaic they preserve the true relative tone values.

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS53/W00060178.jpg

Posted by: scalbers Sep 26 2009, 07:02 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 15 2009, 11:44 AM) *
And September 14 sequence, same treatment:




Nice to see this sequence as well. I've been experimenting with the Sept 13 sequence in my map and will try the same with this one. They may add a bit of coverage at slightly better resolution. They (along with a look at the official map) are helping to suggest some positional improvements in the Seville Mons and "Snowman" crater areas (generally the Saturnshine imagery).

Posted by: ugordan Sep 26 2009, 08:16 PM

Nightside portion of the Saturn mosaic from September 22nd:


Posted by: ugordan Sep 27 2009, 10:58 AM

A rare perspective on Iapetus, 3.7 mil km, IR1/GRN/UV3 magnified 2x and rotated so north is roughly up:


Posted by: Decepticon Sep 27 2009, 07:57 PM

^ Even at low resolution Iapetus impresses me.

Posted by: tedstryk Sep 30 2009, 02:59 PM

This set has much potential when it hits the PDS smile.gif

Posted by: ugordan Oct 11 2009, 09:47 PM

Tethys and a slice of the rings, Oct 11:


Posted by: jasedm Oct 12 2009, 04:01 PM

^ That's nice!

Posted by: Astro0 Oct 12 2009, 10:47 PM

Time to totally blow your minds!!! blink.gif

I was looking through a 159 frame set of images that showed a tiny portion of Saturn's sunlit limb.
There were lots of streaks in the images and at first I thought it was just cosmic ray strikes, but they were too regular and moved in a constant stream throughout the 159 frames. I animated them and they certainly looked very cool....but then...!

I did a gamma enhancement on the images and in the background something amazing caught my eye.... SATURN'S AURORA!!!


OMG!!! In full motion!!! Incredible.

The full file it too big to post here, so I've put a cropped version on my blog http://astro0.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/saturn_streaks_crop1.gif (Warning 3.62mb)
EDIT: Full version http://astro0.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/saturn_streaks_lge1.gif (Warning 9.83mb)

PS: If someone has an explanation for the consistency of the streaks I'd be grateful.
Mystery solved (see post below)!

EDIT: Relinked the above images to versions rotated 180 degrees. It all makes much more sense.

Posted by: Reckless Oct 12 2009, 11:12 PM

OMG Indeed that is spectacular.
Very well done Astro0 smile.gif smile.gif

Roy

Posted by: nprev Oct 12 2009, 11:13 PM

blink.gif ..Show my mind blown!

What's the interval between those frames, Astro0? Those streaks look almost like co-rotating particles (exhaust condensates hanging around Cassini?) The aurorae are megacool, of course!

Posted by: Astro0 Oct 12 2009, 11:16 PM

nprev - no idea of the timing between images. If someone can work that out then fantastic.
Image sequence N00143511 to N00143352

Posted by: helvick Oct 12 2009, 11:16 PM

Absolutely amazing. I'm also curious about the streaks vs the static points - are they background stars while the static points are just noisier pixels, or are they just imaging\processing artefacts??

Posted by: Stu Oct 12 2009, 11:20 PM

Holy frak...

I went to bed last night after scanning the Kepler field of view through my binoculars, and sensing countless 'alien Earths' were within it... I got up this morning to see new images of a billions of years old meteorite sitting on the dusty plains of Mars... now I'm going to bed having seen the aurora of the Lord of The Rings fluttering and flapping on my screen...

We are all truly blessed to be here at this time.

Congratulations Astro0, that sequence will probably go global tomorrow. blink.gif

Posted by: Juramike Oct 13 2009, 02:03 AM

Wow!

Nice catch! That is outstanding!! blink.gif

-Mike

Posted by: Astro0 Oct 13 2009, 02:28 AM

OK Emily solved the mystery of the streaks for me (and helvick had the idea right too).
Rotate the image 180 degrees...kind of a D'oh! moment....sort of the 'mound becomes a crater' when viewed upsidedown blink.gif



The streaks are not in the foreground, they are the background stars.
The aurora makes way more sense rotating around the planet (I've highlighted the horizon).

I've reposted the files to my blog - cropped version http://astro0.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/saturn_streaks_crop1.gif (3.62mb) and full version http://astro0.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/saturn_streaks_lge1.gif (9.83mb)

Posted by: ElkGroveDan Oct 13 2009, 05:36 AM

Just fantastic. Congratulations Astro0 on spotting this amazing feature!

Posted by: Astro0 Oct 13 2009, 05:46 AM

Congratulations to the Cassini team for taking the images. What a wonderful set of observations they have made...and effect they have discovered! cool.gif

There are hundreds of more images in the sequence that I haven't downloaded yet. I expect that there's a lot more to see here smile.gif

Posted by: ustrax Oct 13 2009, 09:38 AM

blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
Now THAT made me forget my tooth pain...Amazing work! smile.gif

Posted by: tedstryk Oct 13 2009, 09:46 AM

Great find!

Posted by: ugordan Oct 13 2009, 10:47 AM

That's got to be one of the best movies from Cassini, ever! I can't wait to see what it looks like with calibrated data, without the hot pixels and jpeg artifacts. Great find, Astro0!

The aurora seems to rotate, I wonder if its due to Saturn's rotation or if it's connected to orbital motion of one of the moons?

Posted by: Floyd Oct 13 2009, 04:09 PM

They could also be looking for moons. There may be one or more moving at a slightly different direction than the hord of background stars. Really interesting.

Posted by: ngunn Oct 13 2009, 08:53 PM

Anecdote: My daughter just 'phoned' via computer from Germany and as we spoke I directed her to the aurora animation. She was very impressed. Just one more to add to the number. Well done all concerned!

Posted by: Phil Stooke Oct 13 2009, 09:04 PM

"They could also be looking for moons"

Surely this would be the worst possible geometry for looking for moons! Most of the frame is the planet, tons of noise and any moons are thin crescents, hence very faint. So not very likely.

Phil

Posted by: PDP8E Oct 13 2009, 09:33 PM

Astro0,

super work! you rock!

Cheers

Posted by: belleraphon1 Oct 13 2009, 10:53 PM

Astro0...

just beautiful... beautiful.

Craig

Posted by: Astro0 Oct 14 2009, 11:32 AM

....and now with titles and music on YouTube smile.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_DtBBZ4sU
Enjoy

Posted by: Doc Oct 14 2009, 11:42 AM

You the man Astro0!... outstanding, astounding blink.gif blink.gif . And the music in the Youtube clip is fitting. Definitely makes feel like tiny!

Posted by: cbcnasa Oct 14 2009, 04:15 PM

Astro0 that is fantastic, great work

Posted by: Tman Oct 15 2009, 08:13 AM

Yeah, just beautiful! Great find Astro0, also that music - I felt myself tingle.


Just a bit cheating with it (looks more like a slowly moving aurora):
http://www.greuti.ch/cassini/aurora.gif
http://www.greuti.ch/cassini/aurora2.gif

Posted by: Bjorn Jonsson Oct 15 2009, 12:27 PM

Icy satellite discussion moved into http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=6253.

Posted by: S_Walker Oct 16 2009, 02:12 PM

Here's a simple RGB I combined from the frames taken closest to true equinox.
Registered, sharpened, and combined in MaxIm DL CCD v5.02

Enjoy,

Sean Walker


 

Posted by: ngunn Oct 16 2009, 06:23 PM

Saturn's airy inhabitants witness a solar eclipse on the horizon: smile.gif
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGBrowseS54/W00060445.jpg

Posted by: ngunn Oct 16 2009, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (S_Walker @ Oct 16 2009, 03:12 PM) *
the frames taken closest to true equinox
Sean Walker


Beautiful image.

I've taken to wondering what a ring plane crossing would look like from one of Saturn's moons. It's not inconcievable to imagine an Enceladus orbiter at some future date. I'm looking at a table where the orbital inclination of Enceladus is given as 0.02 degrees. Would the rings really disappear? For how long? A few seconds, minutes or hours? Would there be a magic moment when the only visible features are F ring perturbations, Daphnis wake and other vertical protuberances?

EDIT: If that Enceladus orbiter were in a polar orbit it would presumably make the ring plane crossing many times for each time that (the centre of) Enceladus itself did so. Could this provide a significant secondary imaging objective for such a mission?

Posted by: ngunn Oct 18 2009, 12:33 PM

Open University logo found orbiting Saturn:
http://www.davidairey.com/images/logos/open-university.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGBrowseS54/N00143771.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Oct 18 2009, 01:13 PM

Oooh, nice find, Nigel! Can't resist a colorization:



EDIT: Ugh, looks like I managed to turn it upside down - corrected now.

Posted by: ngunn Oct 18 2009, 01:42 PM

I've been waiting for it ever since seeing the preview:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=5418&view=findpost&p=147234

But I like your colouring better than the simulation.

Posted by: djellison Oct 18 2009, 01:48 PM

Helen thinks it looks a bit like the deathstar smile.gif

Posted by: elakdawalla Oct 18 2009, 11:48 PM

This one's fun. The moon below the rings on the disk is Enceladus, but who's casting the shadow? Is it Mimas? It needs to be something with an inclined orbit, otherwise the shadow would be below the ring plane.

 

Posted by: brellis Oct 19 2009, 06:31 AM

my new desktop mystery. thanks E

Posted by: volcanopele Oct 19 2009, 07:16 AM

Yes, that's Mimas's shadow.

Posted by: ugordan Oct 19 2009, 04:43 PM

Here's another one showing the entire crescent and compared side-by-side to two old, calibrated images:



I cheated by mirroring the 2006 one left-right so all crescents would be oriented in the same direction.

Posted by: sgendreau Oct 19 2009, 06:15 PM

Oh. My. God. (thud)

Sorry, please excuse me while I fit the mind back into the skull.



sgendreau the newbie, not used to photos like these yet

Posted by: Stu Oct 19 2009, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (sgendreau @ Oct 19 2009, 07:15 PM) *
sgendreau the newbie, not used to photos like these yet


You never will get used to them.

Trust me. wink.gif

Posted by: JohnVV Oct 19 2009, 10:47 PM

sgendreau
for jpg's of the raw unprocessed images you might want to look here.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/index.cfm

Posted by: remcook Oct 20 2009, 01:19 PM

mmmm methane filter! Looks pretty
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=203602

Posted by: volcanopele Oct 23 2009, 10:32 AM

Cold Light from Afar
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA12319

Enigmatic Titan
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA12320

So THAT'S where these images came from! Thought they were odd images for the NAV team to take. Good targeting kiddos...

Though for the last time, the detached haze/blue upper layers of Titan's atmosphere are NOT that bright... not even close

Posted by: ugordan Oct 23 2009, 10:49 AM

QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 23 2009, 12:32 PM) *
Though for the last time, the detached haze/blue upper layers of Titan's atmosphere are NOT that bright... not even close

I'll say... Looks like the blue filter was massively brightened compared to red/green ones. The kind of "sexing up" natural color images I don't particularly like.

Posted by: JohnVV Oct 24 2009, 08:54 AM

i have been using them for a while know as desktop backgrounds
here is a RGB i put together of Hyperion
[attachment=19377:HyperionRGB.png]
and one of Saturn (2572_7217_11.png)
[attachment=19378:2572_7217_11a.png]

Posted by: sgendreau Oct 24 2009, 05:13 PM

QUOTE (JohnVV @ Oct 24 2009, 12:54 AM) *
i have been using them for a while know as desktop backgrounds
here is a RGB i put together of Hyperion



OMG (thud) ....

Posted by: scalbers Oct 24 2009, 05:54 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Oct 19 2009, 04:43 PM) *
Here's another one showing the entire crescent and compared side-by-side to two old, calibrated images:



I cheated by mirroring the 2006 one left-right so all crescents would be oriented in the same direction.


Great illustration of the seasonal change in the blue atmospheric color up north...

Posted by: JohnVV Oct 25 2009, 05:06 AM

QUOTE
OMG (thud) ....

these images are fun . back a few years ago i found the pds site great for maps BUT also for "Kodak moments " too.
you might also like this site also
http://apollo.sese.asu.edu
http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/SUPPORT_DATA/index.html
--from link in above site --
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS08-14-2383

also it can be fun to just look at the "browse" images in the pds archive
-- a random page for the iss cam. --
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/cassini/cassini_orbiter/coiss_2044/extras/browse/1585714912_1585780819/
all are .jpg's so just click on them

in every section there is a page like this
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/data/cassini/cassini_orbiter/coiss_2044/extras/
that has a "browse" folder

Posted by: ngunn Oct 27 2009, 10:47 PM

Some nice new close encounter images, with interesting secondary lighting (I think), have just appeared:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00144775.jpg

But my main reason for posting is to ask for help with this one - I'm totally baffled (again).

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00144745.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Oct 27 2009, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 27 2009, 11:47 PM) *
But my main reason for posting is to ask for help with this one - I'm totally baffled (again).

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00144745.jpg

My take is that's an image beyond Saturn's terminator, with rings still receiving sunlight. North is to the left and the northern hemisphere receives reflected ringshine. In other words, a looong exposure image.

Posted by: ngunn Oct 27 2009, 11:09 PM

I agree - a nightside image illustrating beautifully why you must be on the right side of the rings to read a newspaper on Saturn after sundown. Thanks!

Posted by: ugordan Oct 29 2009, 07:12 PM

Another colorization, this one a Titan-Dione mutual from October 27th. Not too happy with the result as I didn't have a good, similar phase color image, but anyway...


Posted by: elakdawalla Oct 29 2009, 07:55 PM

Oh very cool how Dione is colored by smoggy Titan!

Posted by: dilo Oct 29 2009, 08:21 PM

Really well done, Gordan! cool.gif

Posted by: ngunn Oct 29 2009, 10:28 PM

Science plus happenstance equals art:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00144941.jpg

Posted by: ilbasso Oct 30 2009, 03:06 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Oct 29 2009, 05:28 PM) *
Science plus happenstance equals art:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00144941.jpg


(sound of brain exploding as I try to puzzle this one out)

Posted by: ngunn Oct 30 2009, 03:12 PM

I think it's got some data drop-out, but the immediate visual effect is quite strange and eye-catching.

Posted by: elakdawalla Oct 30 2009, 04:29 PM

It's part of that animation of Tethys, Prometheus, and Pandora -- there's a jump in the animation where there was a frame missing. When images appear on the raw site late like this one does, it's usually because there was an issue with the data and they were trying to get it retransmitted from the spacecraft. At some point, the spacecraft's recorders are emptied in preparation for the next sequence, and they have to give up on getting the full image back; at that point the best version they have gets posted to the raw site.

--Emily

Posted by: volcanopele Oct 30 2009, 05:25 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Oct 29 2009, 12:12 PM) *
Another colorization, this one a Titan-Dione mutual from October 27th. Not too happy with the result as I didn't have a good, similar phase color image, but anyway...

Nice but its Rhea, from the Looking Ahead article:

Finally, the third mutual event is an occultation of Rhea by Titan when Saturn's largest moon is 1.01 million kilometers (630,000 miles) away and Rhea is 2.3 million kilometers (1.5 million miles) away.

Seriously I write these things pretty much for you guys...

Posted by: ugordan Oct 30 2009, 05:54 PM

Ahh, it figures... The terminator did look too rough for Dione. I originally thought it might be Tethys, but it didn't fit so I just went with http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=606&vbody=-82&month=10&day=27&year=2009&hour=15&minute=27&rfov=60&fovmul=-1&bfov=50&porbs=1&showsc=1. I guess the color is all wrong for http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=606&vbody=-82&month=10&day=27&year=2009&hour=19&minute=31&rfov=60&fovmul=-1&bfov=50&porbs=1&showsc=1, then. dry.gif

As for the Looking Ahead, most of the time I've come to prefer being surprised by cool shots and observations here and there rather than reading about them in advance and impatiently expecting them, only to be disappointed half the time (I'm exaggerating obviously) by unplanned data losses and dropouts.

Posted by: Floyd Oct 30 2009, 08:17 PM

Keep the Looking Ahead's coming VP--I read them--I don't mind being not surprised or disappointed occasionally.

Posted by: ngunn Nov 6 2009, 11:26 PM

Well, just look at that!
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00145458.jpg

Posted by: Steve G Nov 7 2009, 06:27 AM

Remember the dark old days when you needed a subscription to Sky & Telescope (and the ill fated Star & Sky which burned me 2 years out of a subscription) when you might get a spacecraft image 6 weeks after the fact. Then, 30 years later, having this wonderful community unleashed with the raw data doing its own miracles, we are truly blessed. We live in an exciting age of exploration. Not to mention instant gratification.

Posted by: Juramike Nov 7 2009, 05:32 PM

False color images of Saturn's atmosphere from the November 5th observations. Are the hemispheres symmetrical?



Nope.

Detail of the layers (inverted left side warped to line up corresponding bands):



-Mike




Posted by: Juramike Nov 8 2009, 01:48 PM

Storm on Saturn (not sure which hemisphere, I'm guessing N) observed on November 7, 2009.
Gradient adjusted combination of cassini raw images N001455531.jpg and N0001455532.jpg (both CL1 CB3 images) processed to bring out atmospheric details.


Posted by: ngunn Nov 8 2009, 09:36 PM

Tonight's favourite:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/W00061084.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Nov 8 2009, 10:00 PM

"looks like that thing is eating the planet!"

Posted by: nprev Nov 8 2009, 10:36 PM

<burp!> VERY cool!!!! tongue.gif

Wow; you can even see the fuzzy edges of the shadow from Titan's "ring effect'!

Posted by: ngunn Nov 8 2009, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 8 2009, 10:36 PM) *
you can even see the fuzzy edges of the shadow from Titan's "ring effect'!


Not sure about that. I did a rough calculation and satisfied myself that the fuzziness is mostly accounted for by the angular diameter of the Sun, the distance of Titan from Saturn and the oblique projection of the shadow on the planet. That's very tentative though and I'd welcome evidence to prove that the shadow is actually more fuzzy because Titan is.

Posted by: Juramike Nov 10 2009, 03:51 PM

Three moons and a ring in one image! Nice!

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00145741.jpg

Posted by: Juramike Nov 10 2009, 03:53 PM

FOUR moons and a ring in one image!

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00145744.jpg




 

Posted by: stevesliva Nov 10 2009, 07:23 PM

Ah ah ah!

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 10 2009, 09:32 PM

Which moons are these? Janus, Enceladus, Tethys, and Prometheus?

Posted by: elakdawalla Nov 10 2009, 10:03 PM

You got 1 smile.gif It's Mimas, Janus, Rhea, and Pandora.

 

Posted by: Juramike Nov 10 2009, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 10 2009, 04:32 PM) *
Which moons are these? Janus, Enceladus, Tethys, and Prometheus?


Mimas, Janus, Rhea, and Pandora. [L to R]
(from Emily's blog post)

[oops, Emily beat me to it!]

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 10 2009, 10:05 PM

Just one? Ouch! huh.gif

Posted by: Juramike Nov 10 2009, 10:08 PM

No sympathy from me. You totally kicked my butt on the moon name http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=6238&view=findpost&p=147319.

smile.gif

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 10 2009, 10:11 PM

Maybe we need another sort of quiz, or perhaps flashcards, with images of the moon and you've got to name it (this would understandably be restricted to the moons for which there are decent images). rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Juramike Nov 11 2009, 04:37 AM

Animated GIF tracking Rhea as the other moons scoot past.
(Rhea can be seen to rotate slightly if one looks closely)


[*click to animate]

Can you recognize each?

(Labelled answers here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/4094740502/)

Posted by: Juramike Nov 11 2009, 05:25 AM

Wow! There are just some phenomenal images in this sequence!

Check out Rhea eclipsing another moon (Janus?), just visible as a bump: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00145792.jpg

And Rhea against Saturn with Janus right next door: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00145796.jpg

But for sheer high-contrast beauty, this is my absolute fave:




Posted by: nprev Nov 11 2009, 06:58 AM

blink.gif ...Mike, you got that right. Mind-blowing!

Who would have thought that the reality of Saturn would be even better than a Chesley Bonestell painting??

Posted by: Astro0 Nov 11 2009, 06:59 AM

Here's a movie file of this sequence. Very cool indeed.
 Rhea_Janus_Saturn.wmv ( 896.15K ) : 433

Posted by: Bill Harris Nov 11 2009, 07:49 AM

QUOTE (juramike)
Check out Rhea eclipsing another moon (Janus?), just visible as a bump: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...4/N00145792.jpg
And, as a plus, there is a high-altitude haze layer visible in Saturn's atmosphere.

--Bill

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 11 2009, 09:25 AM

Amazing images =o!

Is that something? Moon? Background star? Noise?

 

Posted by: Juramike Nov 12 2009, 01:38 AM

Here's a movie of the full sequence:

 Following_Rhea.mov ( 521.04K ) : 430


-Mike

Posted by: Littlebit Nov 13 2009, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 10 2009, 11:58 PM) *
blink.gif ...Mike, you got that right. Mind-blowing!

Who would have thought that the reality of Saturn would be even better than a Chesley Bonestell painting??

Wow! Best piece of space art since Apollo II!

Posted by: Juramike Nov 14 2009, 05:45 AM

Some really neat moon shots!

Dione and Rhea:



Tethys and Enceladus


-Mike

Posted by: nprev Nov 14 2009, 05:51 AM

I love these kinds of shots!

(Hope the rain's finally stopped for you, Mike!)

Posted by: Juramike Nov 14 2009, 06:43 AM

Saturn in Methan-O-Vision as of November 12, 2009. N/S hemisphere assymetry.



RGB [CB2 IRP0, MT2 IRP0, Inv CL1 VIO*CB2 IRP0] with a HiPass filtered CB2 IRP0 overlay. Contrast adjusted and channel mixed.

-Mike


Posted by: ugordan Nov 14 2009, 05:14 PM

Is this dark object a moon and if so, which one?



The bright point below obviously is a moon crescent, but this object shows no sunlit crescent even though this is obviously a very long exposure. Moon in eclipse? It's not a camera artifact as it moves between 3 frames and is motion-blurred in the blue frame, consistent with orbital motion.

The RGB composite above is from an http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=206240. Also, I thought the ring was much thicker, it looks pretty compressed above.

Posted by: Bill Harris Nov 14 2009, 09:51 PM

RED, GRN and BL1 filters? 61220, -221, -222 ?

--Bill

Posted by: ugordan Nov 14 2009, 10:22 PM

Yes.

Posted by: nprev Nov 15 2009, 12:17 AM

That almost looks like a shadow of a moon rather than the object itself. Any idea what the solar illumination angle with respect to it is?

Posted by: ugordan Nov 15 2009, 12:51 AM

I don't think it can be a moon shadow, Nick. The phase angle at the time was around 107 degrees and Cassini was 2.4 million kilometers away from Saturn. That http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=699&vbody=-82&month=11&day=11&year=2009&hour=23&minute=30&rfov=60&fovmul=-1&bfov=30&porbs=0&showsc=1 isn't too favorable for diffuse ring viewing, but it does provide for a significant shadowed region around the right ring ansa (which I believe was the one imaged). For a point-like moon shadow, the sun would have to be behind Cassini.

Posted by: nprev Nov 15 2009, 01:06 AM

Well, that was my best guess! smile.gif I have no idea.

It's a bit large for an artifact; were there any other images taken of this field at this time?

Posted by: Bill Harris Nov 15 2009, 02:20 AM

Looking at W00061219 and -6127 (much deeper exposures, CL1-CL2 filters) as a "brightfield" exposure, you can see some dead pixels but not in the area of Object X. So it is not in the camera.

I'm stumped. Maybe a cloaked Deathstar? smile.gif I wonder, also, if those "comet-like" streamers in the deep exposures are real or internal reflections? Don't recall seeing them elsewhere.

--Bill

Posted by: charborob Nov 15 2009, 04:05 AM

Nice image. Not sure which moons these are. Interesting note: the Saturnshine on the small one is brighter than on the other one. Must be closer to Saturn. I upsampled the image to almost twice the original size. JPEG artifacts are a bit of a nuisance around the limbs.

Here is the link to the original: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS54/N00146136.jpg


 

Posted by: Juramike Nov 15 2009, 05:52 AM

That's Tethys and Enceladus. (Enceladus is the bright little guy.)

Posted by: ngunn Nov 15 2009, 11:37 AM

Hyperion rising:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146237.jpg

Posted by: Astro0 Nov 15 2009, 12:29 PM

Sequence animated.


Posted by: ugordan Nov 15 2009, 01:21 PM

Neat! Two colorizations, the one on the right has several Hyperion images stacked to reduce artifacts (in retrospect I could have done the same with Titan... oh, well):


Posted by: jasedm Nov 15 2009, 01:36 PM

Wow! they're fabulous!
Nice work Gordan. (and astro0)

Posted by: ElkGroveDan Nov 15 2009, 05:32 PM

QUOTE (Astro0 @ Nov 15 2009, 04:29 AM) *
Sequence animated.

...and (mostly) stabilized


 

Posted by: ngunn Nov 15 2009, 06:39 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Nov 15 2009, 01:21 PM) *
Two colorizations


Wonderful - I was really, really hoping you'd do that with the 'Hyperion rising' one. Incidentally on the other image I'm seeing a bean-shaped black blob around Hyperion, apparently silhouetted against the rest of the scene. I presume that's crept in when you were stacking images.

Posted by: ugordan Nov 15 2009, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (ngunn @ Nov 15 2009, 07:39 PM) *
Incidentally on the other image I'm seeing a bean-shaped black blob around Hyperion, apparently silhouetted against the rest of the scene. I presume that's crept in when you were stacking images.

Yep, that would be the source, separate background subtraction for the base and Hyperion images. It's not readily apparent to me though, I have to really look hard to notice it, that's why it escaped me. How bright is your monitor setting?

Posted by: ngunn Nov 15 2009, 06:59 PM

It's pretty bright - I see things I can't see on the computers at work.

Posted by: ugordan Nov 15 2009, 07:04 PM

There's your problem, it's not optimized for sRGB colorspace dynamic reproduction. Anyways, I updated the image above, try it now.

Posted by: ngunn Nov 15 2009, 10:03 PM

Looks good.

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 15 2009, 10:22 PM

I'm unable to view the Titan animation. q_q

QUOTE
The error returned was:
Sorry, some required files are missing, if you intended to view a topic, it's possible that it's been moved or deleted. Please go back and try again.

Posted by: JohnVV Nov 16 2009, 07:35 AM

Hungry4info

CODE
AMD Athlon 7450 Dual-Core Processor 2.40 GHz
3.0 GB of RAM
Windows Vista SP 1
NVIDIA GeForce 8200

no wonder you are on MS Vista

that animation would be this one ?
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=19678

if so it is a gif

are you using internet explorer ? or Firefox 3.5

Posted by: volcanopele Nov 16 2009, 09:06 AM

I don't see how using Vista should make any difference. I use Vista and it runs just fine on my machine with Firefox 3.5.5.

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 16 2009, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (JohnVV @ Nov 16 2009, 01:35 AM) *
that animation would be this one ?
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=19678

Not that one, but the "Stabilized" one from ElkGroveDan.
I'm using Firefox 3.5.

It's no longer an issue though, I am now able to see it.

Posted by: Juramike Nov 17 2009, 07:37 PM

Enceladus and Rhea:




Posted by: volcanopele Nov 17 2009, 07:40 PM

oooo, one that worked perfectly! Thanks for the heads up, Mike.

Posted by: ugordan Nov 17 2009, 07:41 PM

QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Nov 16 2009, 04:01 PM) *
It's no longer an issue though, I am now able to see it.

You most likely caught him in the middle of updating the post and editing attachments. It happens and is no reason for panic - in the future just try accessing it after a while.

Posted by: ugordan Nov 17 2009, 07:44 PM

Soo, VP, any chance of a single color set wandering into these clear frame mutuals in the future? There have been a few of those in the past, one RGB set for color "context" followed by rapid fire CL frames...

Posted by: Juramike Nov 17 2009, 08:12 PM

QUOTE (volcanopele @ Nov 17 2009, 02:40 PM) *
oooo, one that worked perfectly! Thanks for the heads up, Mike.


There are three strikingly beautiful shots:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146366.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146365.jpg (the one seen above)
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146367.jpg

Posted by: charborob Nov 17 2009, 08:25 PM

It would be nice if we had that in our own sky, to behold with our naked eyes.

Posted by: ugordan Nov 17 2009, 08:55 PM

But then it wouldn't be an extraordinary sight, but yet another ordinary event.

Posted by: charborob Nov 17 2009, 10:10 PM

I wouldn't say that. I'm not tired of looking at our own Moon. I like to see it rise, I contemplate its phases. Its a natural: each time I go outside, night or day, I look around to see if the Moon is there. Throw in a couple of other moons, and you would get a never-ending spectacle. Have you lost your capacity to be amazed by the (seemingly) ordinary things?

Posted by: peter59 Nov 20 2009, 05:58 PM

What fantastic views ! (Rhea and Titan) laugh.gif
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146481.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00146495.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Nov 20 2009, 06:07 PM


Posted by: paxdan Nov 20 2009, 06:09 PM

wow, spectacular.

Posted by: elakdawalla Nov 20 2009, 06:28 PM

Holy cow, it's a 3-color animation. They never do those. This'll be fun to assemble!

Posted by: jasedm Nov 20 2009, 06:32 PM

That is phenomenal! - What a beautiful image!
The two moons look like they're within touching distance.
Simply breathtaking.

Posted by: nprev Nov 20 2009, 07:34 PM

ohmy.gif ...are there really any words?

I try to never make requests, but Gordan, is there any way to make that desktop-sized? I want this image, if you dig my meaning.

Posted by: belleraphon1 Nov 20 2009, 08:09 PM

Absolutely fantastic image.....

Craig

Posted by: peter59 Nov 20 2009, 08:20 PM

Animated GIF


Posted by: ugordan Nov 20 2009, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (nprev @ Nov 20 2009, 08:34 PM) *
I try to never make requests, but Gordan, is there any way to make that desktop-sized?

It's possible to stack a few frames and enlarge, but with the raw jpegs it doesn't really do much. Here's a 150% size stack of blue frames centered on Titan to improve limb details below Rhea (being blue frames they really mess up the north polar hood so that's untouched) and a stack of green frames to improve details on Rhea. Color is from the first composite. Not much of an improvement.


One could do this registration with complete color sets to further improve s/n and color, but it's a lot of work and I'll let someone else pitch in.

Posted by: nprev Nov 20 2009, 09:04 PM

You're too modest, man; that's perfect. Now my desktop. Thank you!!! smile.gif

Posted by: tedstryk Nov 20 2009, 09:09 PM

WOW! That's an amazing image Ugordan!

Posted by: jasedm Nov 20 2009, 09:18 PM

Vicarious enjoyment of others very hard graft - thank you Cassini people for sharing this cornucopia. Feel very privileged to be party to these images as they come down. What a delight!

Posted by: djellison Nov 21 2009, 11:24 PM

You can't. Just edit the post - put 'please delete' on it -and an admin will cull it at some point.

Posted by: pat Nov 23 2009, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Nov 20 2009, 06:28 PM) *
Holy cow, it's a 3-color animation. They never do those. This'll be fun to assemble!


I'm told that the person designing the camera commands just couldn't resist using 3-color for this observation, and that its likely to happen again.

Posted by: elakdawalla Nov 24 2009, 03:18 AM

Awesome. smile.gif Can't wait to see more!

I've actually been working on this on and off for the last 3 days (as family allows) and it's a bit of a struggle....I haven't found the right algorithm to use yet. I've got a version that has only 6 frames but the Titan color channels aren't aligned perfectly, so I'm not happy enough with it to post yet.

--Emily

Posted by: charborob Nov 24 2009, 02:51 PM

I made this amination of Pandora (center) and Epimetheus (I hope the file is not too big).


Posted by: sgendreau Nov 24 2009, 05:51 PM

OMG, that's incredible. Thank you.

And thanks also to all of you who have worked so hard on the images of the last few days -- I'm a newbie and new to this board and so my opinion isn't worth much -- but the images are stunning and your work is a gift to the rest of us. Much appreciated.

Susan

Posted by: ynyralmaen Nov 24 2009, 07:36 PM

QUOTE (Astro0 @ Oct 12 2009, 10:47 PM) *
... I did a gamma enhancement on the images and in the background something amazing caught my eye.... SATURN'S AURORA!!!


http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/newsreleases/newsrelease20091124/ of the ISS Saturn aurora images and animations...

Posted by: ngunn Nov 24 2009, 10:09 PM

I notice they've used an orange tint to highlight the aurora. That got me thinking: What colour are Saturn's aurorae, actually? I would have expected them to choose green if they wanted to add colour to the movie - except that the colour of terrestrial aurorae is down to oxygen and nitrogen mostly and they are in short supply on Saturn. Ionised hydrogen glows red, so maybe orange aurorae for Saturn is about right after all. Anybody know?

Posted by: nprev Nov 25 2009, 12:58 AM

Char, that's a fascinating animation; thank you indeed! smile.gif

Hats off to all our UMSF image wizards; really amazing work on Cassini's latest.

Posted by: Juramike Nov 25 2009, 02:55 AM

Nice shot of Dione at half-phase:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=207730

Posted by: ugordan Nov 26 2009, 10:54 PM

Rhea and Dione mutual in RGB:



Too bad it wasn't http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=605&vbody=-82&month=11&day=25&year=2009&hour=01&minute=05&rfov=60&fovmul=-1&bfov=6&porbs=0&showsc=1, just a few minutes earlier...

Posted by: Loiserl Nov 27 2009, 02:30 AM

20 frames. I cleaned them from cosmic ray hits and got the brightness corrected. Epithemeus is in the center, but which one is the other one? I don't know because by using the JPL's Solar System Simulator I couldn't find Epithemeus.

Direct image link removed. Nice one but against rule 3.2! Mod.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1878/animacionepimeteo.gif

Posted by: Hungry4info Nov 27 2009, 02:40 AM

Very nice animation! =)
I think the spherical moon is Tethys. It's gotta be close to the planet, and its not as bumpy as Mimas. That leaves Enceladus, and Tethys (Dione is a bit far away). The moon seems uniformly cratered, excluding Enceladus.

So my guess is Tethys.

Posted by: peter59 Nov 27 2009, 11:11 AM

Another nice shot. Janus and ????.


Posted by: charborob Nov 27 2009, 01:59 PM

According to the CICLOPS site, it should be Rhea.

"On November 24, ISS will image two transits by the co-orbital moons Janus and Epimetheus across the disk of Rhea.» (http://ciclops.org/view/5969/Rev121)

By the way, Cassini has taken many images of this event. It would be interesting to make an animation. I may not have the time myself to do it today. Maybe someone else can give it a go?

Posted by: peter59 Nov 27 2009, 05:16 PM

QUOTE (charborob @ Nov 27 2009, 02:59 PM) *
It would be interesting to make an animation.

You say, you have.



Posted by: Loiserl Nov 28 2009, 04:57 AM

Animations from raw images:
Rhea centered on the image and Tethys passing by: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3154/rheaanimation26112009.gif

Titan (centered) and Tethys passing behind. I stopped the frame when Tethys is behind Titan to match (more or less) the time it would take it to make it to the other side: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3702/titananimation26112009.gif
I'm sorry the files are big.
Regards!

Posted by: ugordan Nov 28 2009, 11:00 AM

A single "frame" from the Titan-Tethys mutual:



This one is targeted at Epimetheus, but I'll be damned if I can see it:

Behind the rings?

Iapetus, IR1/GRN/UV3, 2x:

Posted by: nprev Nov 28 2009, 11:11 AM

Ah, jeez...These mutuals are just blowing me away! Beautiful work as per your usual, Gordan, thanks very much! smile.gif

Posted by: ngunn Nov 29 2009, 07:10 PM

!
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00147638.jpg

Posted by: Ant103 Nov 30 2009, 01:21 AM

Yes !!! It's Dione made an occultation of Tethys, very spectacular smile.gif

So spectaculare that I've made a little movie of that.

 tethys_dione_281109_anime.mov ( 169.59K ) : 340
 

Posted by: remcook Nov 30 2009, 08:56 AM

Tethys' nightside is so much brighter than Dione's. Did it get more saturnshine?

Posted by: Ian R Dec 3 2009, 09:55 AM

Here's my first Saturn composite in many, many months:


Posted by: ugordan Dec 3 2009, 01:48 PM

Whoa, a lightning storm! ph34r.gif

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208751
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208752
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208753
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208754
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208755
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208756
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208757
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208758
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208759 <- the money shot
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208760

Posted by: remcook Dec 3 2009, 01:52 PM

!! That's just cool smile.gif Once again, well spotted Gordan!

Posted by: paxdan Dec 3 2009, 02:11 PM

Money shots, plural. There are strikes in the other images too (below). It makes a great little movie, the storm rotates into view with the flashes going off.

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208755

Posted by: ugordan Dec 3 2009, 02:29 PM

QUOTE (paxdan @ Dec 3 2009, 03:11 PM) *
There are strikes in the other images too (below).

I know, that's why I linked to them all to show definite temporal variability. Don't have time to make a cleaned-up animation, though.

Posted by: ugordan Dec 3 2009, 04:56 PM

Crude animation:


EDIT: Don't know why the forum software decided to inline the entire gif instead of the usual thumbnail link.

Posted by: djellison Dec 3 2009, 05:06 PM

smaller than X pixels and it puts it in automatically I think.

Posted by: ugordan Dec 3 2009, 05:08 PM

Hmm, it's still over 100 kB in size, should I hack it into a direct link to the attachment instead? Seeing as how people have trouble browsing with slow connections and stuff.

Posted by: paxdan Dec 3 2009, 05:25 PM

I have animated this sequence too. Please see the attached .mov for an animation of the storm. The storm traverses the image from left to right. the limb of the planet and starfield beyond are visible in the lower right hand corner.

 storm_on_saturn.mov ( 266.16K ) : 389
 

Posted by: ElkGroveDan Dec 3 2009, 06:43 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 3 2009, 08:56 AM) *
EDIT: Don't know why the forum software decided to inline the entire gif instead of the usual thumbnail link.


I had the same problem. I did my own version and it seemed to choke on the file which wasn't really that big.

Posted by: elakdawalla Dec 4 2009, 05:46 PM

For those of you who use the Rings Node Saturn Viewer to figure out which moons are which in these images, they just updated the ephemerides, and Pandora is now in the correct location in their simulated views -- it was off for a while. Not sure why that was.

Posted by: nomisn Dec 6 2009, 12:22 AM

Hi

This is my first post. Some links below to some great pics of Titan, a moon and rings I found recently on the Cassini raw images page which I haven't seen here yet.

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00147455.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00147447.jpg
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/index.cfm?start=3&storedQ=2166402

Thanks to Doug and the Admin team for creating and maintaing this great forum and to all the forum members who've greated and posted the incredible picutures from various missions. Thanks also to the people running behind these missions for their work in getting these images taken in the first place.

Cheers

Simon

Posted by: Hungry4info Dec 6 2009, 03:20 AM

Neat images! Is it just me or is the limb on Titan's night side visible?

Posted by: Stu Dec 6 2009, 07:23 AM

Just... wow...

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208200

smile.gif

BTW, welcome to UMSF, nomisn! smile.gif

Posted by: nomisn Dec 6 2009, 08:06 AM

Thanks Stu. Wow indeed. I've been saying this quite a bit recently in regards to all these great images coming down from Cassini.

I've been following this forum for quite awhile but when I saw some of these Titan images coming down recently, I had to post the links. This pics are incredible and credit has to go to the Cassini team (and and the MER team) for making these raw images available online so quickly. BTW Stu thanks for the great pics you put up also here and on your sites. They're great too.

In looking again at the photo link I posted previously , it does look like the limb on night side of Titan is visible however I'll be interested to see what others think on this as to whether it is visible or not.


Posted by: dilo Dec 6 2009, 09:16 AM

Thanks for highlight, Stu! This is spectacular too:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS55/N00147455.jpg
Note also last Titan eclipse images, here the W00061875 with, on the right, two Narrow Field enlarged pictures with removed artifacts (deinterlace and hot pixel; images N00147830 and N00147832):


Posted by: ngunn Dec 6 2009, 09:23 AM

QUOTE (Hungry4info @ Dec 6 2009, 03:20 AM) *
Is it just me or is the limb on Titan's night side visible?


It's very clear on my monitor.

Posted by: Stu Dec 6 2009, 10:34 AM

Quick n dirty animation...

http://twitpic.com/sdwfh

Others will do much better, I'm sure, but I just fancied a go! smile.gif

Posted by: ugordan Dec 6 2009, 12:28 PM

QUOTE (nomisn @ Dec 6 2009, 01:22 AM) *
Some links below to some great pics of Titan, a moon and rings I found recently on the Cassini raw images page which I haven't seen here yet.

And here's a colorization of that Titan-Mimas mutual as well:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ugordan/titan_mimas_rings.jpg

Posted by: ugordan Dec 6 2009, 12:29 PM

QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 6 2009, 08:23 AM) *
Just... wow...

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/photos/raw/rawimagedetails/index.cfm?imageID=208200

smile.gif


Ahem, Stu, http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=335&view=findpost&p=150997 rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Stu Dec 6 2009, 01:21 PM

Sorry, Gordan, that one slipped by me. Hard to keep up sometimes! smile.gif

Posted by: dilo Dec 6 2009, 01:27 PM

I missed too ugordan post... anyway, this is my color version, based on the RGB triplet N00147406+407+402:


 

Posted by: ugordan Dec 6 2009, 02:48 PM

Here's a colorization of an old, calibrated CB3 filter image, N1525952199_1.IMG:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ugordan/4162424959/sizes/o/

Too bad there's a general paucity of such shots showing both Titan and Saturn in the same frame, let alone full color sets.

Posted by: scalbers Dec 6 2009, 03:22 PM

That's pretty spectacular Gordan - with the rings, crescent Titan, and atmospheres all there.

Posted by: Stu Dec 6 2009, 04:22 PM

QUOTE (ugordan @ Dec 6 2009, 02:48 PM) *
Here's a colorization of an old, calibrated CB3 filter image, N1525952199_1.IMG:


That is truly stunning, thank you.

Just missing an 'Enterprise" in the foreground and it would be perfect! laugh.gif

Posted by: ugordan Dec 6 2009, 04:26 PM

I'm leaving that up to others who are better versed at compositing mechanical objects into an image! tongue.gif

Posted by: nomisn Dec 7 2009, 08:12 AM

Thanks ugordon for the colorization of the Titan-Mimas mutual. Spectacular!


Posted by: Ian R Dec 7 2009, 10:54 AM

Another view of a crescent Saturn; this time from the 5th December:


Posted by: JohnVV Dec 7 2009, 11:00 AM

"Just missing an 'Enterprise" in the foreground and it would be perfect! "
something quick
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Posted by: Stu Dec 7 2009, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (JohnVV @ Dec 7 2009, 11:00 AM) *
something quick


Thank you muchly! laugh.gif

Posted by: Ian R Dec 7 2009, 12:41 PM

A stacked, enlarged and sharpened view of Iapteus:


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