Lucy, Discovery Mission 13 - a grand tour of the Jupiter Trojans |
Lucy, Discovery Mission 13 - a grand tour of the Jupiter Trojans |
Nov 3 2023, 09:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
I wonder if the two objects are tidally locked. Will we have enough data from the flyby to determine this?
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Nov 3 2023, 09:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 14-January 22 Member No.: 9140 |
It seems like the close up imagery could be used in combination with subsequent ground observations to characterize the orbit. If a light curve can be derived, then that would nail down the orbital period. The Lucy imagery characterizes the semimajor axis. And both of those combined, would give us the mass.
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Nov 3 2023, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
And the release says that the team had noticed brightness changes in the preceeding weeks, so those certainly could pin down the orbital period.
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Nov 7 2023, 07:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: 3-December 04 From: Boulder, Colorado, USA Member No.: 117 |
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Nov 7 2023, 07:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
How many more surprises await us? Something incredible!!! Lucy rules! |
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Nov 7 2023, 07:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 14-January 22 Member No.: 9140 |
The mind reels. Did Dinkinesh have two slow-revolving mini-satellites that came together, or did an existing contact binary get captured? It seems like something even weirder must have happened. Baffling.
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Nov 7 2023, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
I was just joking in my post from last week about Lucy's multiplication abilities!
There was that hint of weirdness in the southern hemisphere. Turns out to have been a horizon, with the back end peaking out from behind. Much like Arrokoth, it must have been a low velocity collision to merge the two moons into one. |
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Nov 7 2023, 08:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
Here you can find a slightly larger version of the recently published picture:
https://lucy.swri.edu/DinkineshEncounter.html https://lucy.swri.edu/img/Dinkinesh_satelli...trajectory2.png Some of my attempts to enlarge: Credit to original picture: NASA/Goddard/SwRI/Johns Hopkins APL |
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Nov 7 2023, 08:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
(...) Much like Arrokoth, it must have been a low velocity collision to merge the two moons into one. Let me just remind you of the theory of the formation of the equatorial ridge and small satellites presented in this article (I have already linked it regarding Ryugu): https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/research-port...eway/2022/1125/ The animation of the formation model posted there shows great potential for creating "contact binary mini-satellites": https://youtu.be/Bj_TZYYSWKQ |
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Nov 28 2023, 01:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1421 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
Dinkinesh's satellite has been named Selam.
https://www.wgsbn-iau.org/files/Bulletins/V...ll_V003_016.pdf -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Nov 29 2023, 05:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: 3-December 04 From: Boulder, Colorado, USA Member No.: 117 |
Lucy blog post announcing the satellite name, plus color and stereo views of Dinkinesh and Selam
John |
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Nov 29 2023, 11:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
Lucy blog post announcing the satellite name, plus color and stereo views of Dinkinesh and Selam John It's great to see new pictures. But where are the unprocessed pictures? (or not so much processed?) And what does it mean: "the apparent distance between Selam and Dinkinesh has been artificially reduced"? Will we see pictures with the distance not „artificially reduced”? This seems a bit strange to me... |
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Nov 29 2023, 11:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
But where are the unprocessed pictures? (or not so much processed?) Per https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/planetdat...23/pdf/7073.pdf QUOTE An additional modification to the original Lucy archive delivery timeline was made when the main belt asteroid 152830 Dinkinesh was added as a flyby target. Instrument data for this encounter will be delivered to the PDS within 9 months after downlink completion... -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Nov 30 2023, 12:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
Thanks!
This requires a lot of patience... BTW Here is the largest (I think) version of the "first" published picture of the Dinkinesh system that I found: https://space.jhuapl.edu/sites/space.jhuapl...ORRI-scaled.png |
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Nov 30 2023, 12:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1421 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
3D anaglyph. The equatorial ridge extends toward us quite a lot - quite remarkable given how relatively subtle it is in the 2D images. The top (north?) pole has a lot of topology features... perhaps craters or canyons, not sure. I've placed Dinkinesh and Selam at about the same distance to the observer because it's kind of unviewable otherwise.
-------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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