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Have You Ever Been Responsible For A Hoax?
paxdan
post Aug 16 2005, 08:56 AM
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I've moved my response from the Deep Impact thread....

QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 16 2005, 07:57 AM)
Personnally I am not closed to such matters as UFOs, crop circles and the like
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I once flew a very large delta kite at night with a glow stick attached, that one made it into the local newspaper. I've also had a crop circle i made reported at the back of the Fortean times. I have a pan of that i took with my 35mm camera which was one of the first pans i ever assembled.

Thats two, has anyone else ever been responsible for lights in the sky or strange phenomenon?
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post Aug 27 2005, 09:27 AM
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One thing which much astonishes me is that, in the hypothesis that actual crop circles are the work of hoaxers, there are no mistakes.

I explain: it is very difficult to move precisely into a field (by night and even by day) where we have no visual landmarks. At best we could have an accuracy of 10m. We could do simple figures with means such as ropes, etc. but most crop circles today are very complex, understand they contains tens of circles and straight lines, and are very accurate (in the 0.1m range), and never featuring mistakes or blunders, while still "appearing" in a short time. To achieve such a precision and complete absence of errors in complex figures would require that the hoaxers use some sophisticated electronic mean, with a military organisation.

What Bob shaw suggests:
QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 26 2005, 11:40 PM)
Hmmm...

..I smell Photoshop!

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is that the link provided by helvick would be a painting whe could obtain with Photoshop. In this case really it looks like that, but are all the images published in "pro-circle" reviews and sites fabricated with graphic softwares? It seems unlikely, as many are perspective views, with people, etc, and even "con-circle" people found them in real fields.
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post Aug 27 2005, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 27 2005, 09:27 AM)
I explain: it is very difficult to move precisely into a field (by night and even by day) where we have no visual landmarks. At best we could have an accuracy of 10m.


You can have an accuracy as high as one can measure a piece of rope smile.gif The techniques are very simple and very accurate.

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post Aug 27 2005, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 27 2005, 10:38 AM)
You can have an accuracy as high as one can measure a piece of rope smile.gif  The techniques are very simple and very accurate.

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You could do like this onewith only ropes? I implies non-circular lines, and also large dimentions (How to pull a lengthy rope without it touching the crop?)
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- paxdan   Have You Ever Been Responsible For A Hoax?   Aug 16 2005, 08:56 AM
- - Bob Shaw   I will confess: I have been known to fly a nifty l...   Aug 16 2005, 02:54 PM
- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (paxdan @ Aug 16 2005, 09:56 AM)I'v...   Aug 16 2005, 02:55 PM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 16 2005, 03:55 PM)Paxda...   Aug 16 2005, 05:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Paxdan: Your mission, should you wish to accept i...   Aug 26 2005, 11:17 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 27 2005, 12:17 AM)Go ou...   Aug 26 2005, 11:36 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (helvick @ Aug 27 2005, 12:36 AM)Hey - ...   Aug 26 2005, 11:40 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 27 2005, 01:40 AM)Hmmm....   Aug 28 2005, 05:43 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (tty @ Aug 28 2005, 12:43 PM)You wouldn...   Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Aug 29 2005, 07:53 PM)I...   Aug 29 2005, 09:08 PM
- - Myran   No I havnt started a hoax in the true word of the ...   Aug 16 2005, 06:50 PM
|- - paxdan   OK here is a photo of the crop circle my friend an...   Aug 24 2005, 04:09 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Did you know that Sir Isaac Newton used to fly kit...   Aug 24 2005, 04:30 PM
|- - ljk4-1   Crop Circles in Kansas imaged from space! htt...   Aug 24 2005, 06:03 PM
- - Palomar   QUOTE Method: Make three holes in the plank, two o...   Aug 26 2005, 02:20 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Palomar @ Aug 26 2005, 09:20 AM)And no...   Aug 26 2005, 02:37 PM
||- - Palomar   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Aug 26 2005, 02:37 PM)UF...   Aug 26 2005, 03:40 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (Palomar @ Aug 26 2005, 10:40 AM)*Let...   Aug 26 2005, 03:44 PM
||- - Palomar   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Aug 26 2005, 03:44 PM)I ...   Aug 26 2005, 07:21 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Palomar @ Aug 26 2005, 03:20 PM)Just w...   Aug 26 2005, 11:13 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   One thing which much astonishes me is that, in the...   Aug 27 2005, 09:27 AM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Aug 27 2005, 09:27 A...   Aug 27 2005, 10:38 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 27 2005, 10:38 AM)You ...   Aug 27 2005, 10:57 AM
- - djellison   "You could do like this onewith only ropes? ...   Aug 27 2005, 11:22 AM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (djellison @ Aug 27 2005, 10:22 PM)  Th...   Aug 27 2005, 12:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   I think we're probably all agreed that the who...   Aug 27 2005, 12:57 PM
|- - abalone   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Aug 27 2005, 11:57 PM)So lo...   Aug 27 2005, 02:10 PM
- - dvandorn   The real problem lies in the fact that when intell...   Aug 27 2005, 08:17 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Aug 27 2005, 09:17 PM)The r...   Aug 28 2005, 12:08 AM
- - Myran   No cant agree abalone, this is discussed in the CC...   Aug 29 2005, 10:05 PM


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