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tedstryk
post Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
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In Astronomy's February issue, they report that Russia has approved funding for the Phobos-Grunt mission. Design work has gone on since 1997, and the new design is scaled down to fly an a Soyuz rocket instead of the larger Proton. The main purpose is similar to Phobos-2, with the addition of a sample return. Also being discussed is the possibility of it carrying a few "meteorological stations" fof Mars itself. Generally, I have written this mission off as "never going to happen," but with the new Russian alliance with ESA, I wonder if they might be able to actually fly this thing. Also, with Putin's increasingly Soviet-style leadership, and with the likelyhood of lunar missions from China and India, Russian pride might drive this mission. If so, I have a concern. This mission sounds really, really ambitious. And the Russians have never even sent a fully successful Mars orbiter, and that is when they launched them in pairs or triplets. Still, if the mission flies, even if it doesn't bring back Phobos soil it might obtain some interesting results. Here is ESA's Phobos-Grunt page:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...IJFW4QWD_0.html

Also, ESA has another page on potential Russian programs, although this seem to be nothing but pipe dreams at the moment. Would be a cool mission though.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...0LFW4QWD_0.html

And also a page on the only partially realized current Russian project, its program to put instruments on other's spacecraft, such as HEND on Odyssey.

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ESA_Permanent_...HMFW4QWD_0.html


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- tedstryk   Phobos-Grunt   Jan 22 2005, 02:15 PM
- - Zvezdichko   USSR has experience in sample return missions. i r...   Jan 26 2009, 07:06 PM
- - mps   QUOTE (New Ocean @ Jan 26 2009, 07:20 PM)...   Jan 26 2009, 07:43 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (mps @ Jan 26 2009, 08:43 PM) I sus...   Jan 27 2009, 04:21 AM
- - elakdawalla   Really? That would put Phoenix to shame, in te...   Jan 27 2009, 05:59 PM
|- - SFJCody   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Jan 27 2009, 05:59 P...   Jan 27 2009, 09:15 PM
- - Enceladus75   And wasn't Magellan's main radio dish a fl...   Jan 28 2009, 02:50 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Enceladus75 @ Jan 27 2009, 08:50 P...   Jan 28 2009, 05:28 AM
- - Geert   Posted on request of James Oberg: QUOTE Announcin...   Feb 3 2009, 04:02 AM
- - mps   A interesting article indeed. I think that the Uni...   Feb 4 2009, 07:49 AM
|- - Alex Chapman   QUOTE (mps @ Feb 4 2009, 08:49 AM) A inte...   Feb 4 2009, 08:37 PM
- - PhilCo126   Probably some of us read the story of a Russian Bi...   Mar 6 2009, 03:20 PM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/......   Mar 18 2009, 11:36 AM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/apr09/8527 Russia to...   Apr 8 2009, 08:46 AM
|- - tedstryk   I am not sad about this. Given the rocket switch ...   Apr 8 2009, 09:00 AM
- - Zvezdichko   Yes, but if they don't launch this year, they ...   Apr 8 2009, 09:15 AM
|- - tedstryk   Right, but better to let them get a little bored t...   Apr 8 2009, 09:57 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 8 2009, 05:57 PM) R...   Apr 9 2009, 12:48 PM
- - remcook   Don't worry, MetNet will be back, maybe sooner...   Apr 9 2009, 01:46 PM
- - cbcnasa   I think the public gets bored shortly after a miss...   Apr 9 2009, 04:16 PM
- - Vultur   I'd much rather have a 2011-launched success t...   Apr 9 2009, 10:29 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Nice pic of a mockup. Phil   Apr 17 2009, 05:03 PM
|- - andrea   This article is not too positive: http://www.spac...   Apr 26 2009, 05:43 AM
- - Vultur   So there's still no official statement of the ...   Apr 27 2009, 05:58 AM
- - Zvezdichko   Russia refutes rumors that Phobos-Grunt will be de...   May 5 2009, 04:13 PM
|- - SpaceListener   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 10:13 AM)...   May 5 2009, 05:08 PM
||- - Zvezdichko   QUOTE (SpaceListener @ May 5 2009, 06:08 ...   May 5 2009, 05:44 PM
||- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 10:44 AM)...   May 5 2009, 06:50 PM
||- - tedstryk   "What has appeared in a number of electronic ...   May 5 2009, 07:50 PM
||- - Vultur   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 5 2009, 07:50 PM) T...   May 6 2009, 02:29 AM
||- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (Vultur @ May 5 2009, 10:29 PM) Let...   May 6 2009, 03:16 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (Zvezdichko @ May 5 2009, 06:13 PM)...   May 5 2009, 05:20 PM
- - nprev   From their lips to God's ears. We all want PG ...   May 5 2009, 11:32 PM
- - Zvezdichko   A friend of mine informed me that all threads abou...   May 12 2009, 07:56 PM
- - monitorlizard   http://www.planetary.org/blog Guest blogger Alan ...   May 19 2009, 12:14 PM
- - Phil Stooke   A good summary from Alan, but (off topic for this ...   May 19 2009, 12:22 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 19 2009, 01:22 P...   May 20 2009, 12:58 AM
- - remcook   From the ESA ESLAB conference last week, the offic...   May 19 2009, 02:37 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I suppose that is possible, Ted. If so, my apolog...   May 20 2009, 03:20 AM
|- - tedstryk   Here we go. Enceladus is 1.1× 10^20 kg^4, Vesta i...   May 20 2009, 09:18 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Novosti Kosmonavtiki announced that the Chinese su...   May 27 2009, 07:06 PM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_to..._prob...   May 30 2009, 09:51 AM
- - SpaceListener   I am still confused whether or not that Yinghuo-1 ...   May 30 2009, 06:36 PM
|- - redmoon   Sorry for my bad English, so only this Link: http...   May 30 2009, 07:33 PM
|- - tedstryk   Yinghuo-1 will launch with Phobos-Grunt and ride t...   May 31 2009, 08:07 PM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=6536...   Jun 20 2009, 09:28 PM
|- - redmoon   You can read more about the bacteria-experiment he...   Jun 20 2009, 09:38 PM
|- - SFJCody   Looks like there has been another update at russia...   Jun 21 2009, 06:53 AM
- - Paolo   No one seems to have commented on this, but the Fo...   Jun 21 2009, 09:41 AM
- - Paolo   A nice article about Yinghuo from China's Peop...   Jun 23 2009, 06:53 PM
- - jsheff   Apparently the CNES will receive soil samples from...   Jun 29 2009, 09:44 PM
- - Paolo   Yinghuo reportedly arrived in Moscow today   Aug 6 2009, 03:08 PM
|- - tedstryk   Given that its orbit is so elliptical, maybe it wi...   Aug 6 2009, 05:54 PM
- - lyford   Either that photo caption is incorrect, or China...   Aug 6 2009, 06:42 PM
- - centsworth_II   RE: Phobos-Grunt   Aug 6 2009, 08:47 PM
- - Paolo   I am told Yinghuo actually arrived in Moscow on 17...   Aug 7 2009, 07:26 AM
- - Paolo   I have just received from a contact in China an in...   Aug 8 2009, 10:09 AM
- - Zvezdichko   Too bad they are so secretive. 200 m resolution do...   Aug 8 2009, 10:38 AM
|- - Paolo   The presentation I was sent was intended for inter...   Aug 8 2009, 11:10 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Paolo @ Aug 8 2009, 04:10 AM) prob...   Aug 8 2009, 05:19 PM
|- - tedstryk   http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publi...cle_2...   Aug 9 2009, 02:12 AM
- - Hungry4info   Testing of landing radar for Phobos-Grunt (from Ru...   Aug 15 2009, 03:01 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Great info, Hungry4info!   Aug 15 2009, 08:20 PM
- - mps   Launch is scheduled for October (two months from n...   Aug 16 2009, 09:14 AM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (mps @ Aug 16 2009, 04:14 AM) Launc...   Aug 16 2009, 02:48 PM
|- - rlorenz   QUOTE (mps @ Aug 16 2009, 05:14 AM) Launc...   Aug 17 2009, 12:30 AM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7155...   Aug 21 2009, 01:10 PM
- - Paolo   From MAKS 2009: a model of Fobos-Grunt's l...   Aug 22 2009, 08:27 AM
- - Paolo   Other pictures of Lavochkin's booth from the c...   Aug 22 2009, 09:58 AM
|- - tedstryk   Great Pictures...by the way, the MetNet ambiguity ...   Aug 22 2009, 05:11 PM
- - Paolo   The mass breakdown published in http://www.russian...   Aug 22 2009, 05:22 PM
|- - tedstryk   It was then reported that MetNet had been fallen b...   Aug 22 2009, 11:47 PM
- - Zvezdichko   http://fg.iki.rssi.ru/current/phobos/ A friend of...   Sep 2 2009, 01:17 PM
- - Ron Hobbs   If I did my math correctly, the countdown clock wo...   Sep 2 2009, 05:46 PM
- - Zvezdichko   http://oko-planet.su/science/sciencenews/1...vozmo...   Sep 12 2009, 09:59 AM
- - Zvezdichko   http://www.russianspaceweb.com/index.html Anatoly...   Sep 14 2009, 02:51 PM
|- - tedstryk   The BBC has picked it up. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...   Sep 15 2009, 09:52 AM
- - Zvezdichko   There's a very interesting thread on the novos...   Sep 15 2009, 03:54 PM
- - Paolo   According to Interfax Fobos-Grunt has been delayed...   Sep 16 2009, 05:32 PM
|- - Hungry4info   QUOTE (Paolo @ Sep 16 2009, 11:32 AM) Acc...   Sep 17 2009, 03:27 AM
- - mps   AFP: Russia delays Mars probe launch   Sep 17 2009, 06:23 AM
- - Paolo   It will also be interesting to see how any delay w...   Sep 17 2009, 06:01 PM
- - Zvezdichko   This is the right decision. Keep in mind that Ros...   Sep 17 2009, 08:02 PM
- - Zvezdichko   For those who are curious - I'm checking the w...   Sep 20 2009, 12:57 PM
- - Paolo   Here it is, F-G is officially delayed to 2011. Bet...   Sep 21 2009, 05:38 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Yes, it's a better for the mission to be delay...   Sep 21 2009, 06:42 PM
- - Paolo   1994 was the last unused Mars launch window   Sep 21 2009, 06:58 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Despite the information from Lev Zelenyi, Roscosmo...   Sep 22 2009, 10:45 AM
- - Paolo   Yes, what is interesting is that Zelenyi is report...   Sep 22 2009, 04:56 PM
- - Zvezdichko   Roscosmos still hasn't announced an official d...   Sep 22 2009, 08:36 PM
- - Liss   Roscosmos did confirmed the delay, sort of. In tod...   Sep 29 2009, 12:40 PM
- - climber   My Russian is good enough to understand 2011   Sep 29 2009, 03:19 PM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (climber @ Sep 29 2009, 09:19 AM) 2...   Sep 29 2009, 06:02 PM
- - charborob   Google translation: RG: What's wrong with the...   Sep 29 2009, 06:13 PM
- - mps   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Sep 29 2009, 09:02 ...   Sep 29 2009, 06:18 PM
- - mps   Industry Insiders Foresaw Delay of Russia’s Phobos...   Oct 6 2009, 07:35 AM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (mps @ Oct 6 2009, 09:35 AM) Indust...   Oct 6 2009, 04:55 PM
|- - Eugen   QUOTE (Paolo @ Oct 6 2009, 07:55 PM) Besi...   Oct 10 2009, 10:31 AM
- - tolis   Hi All, According to www.russiansdpaceweb.com/ph...   Oct 29 2009, 08:32 PM
- - Hungry4info   I heard PhobosGrunt would have the MetLander (name...   Oct 29 2009, 08:49 PM
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