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Dec 23 2020, 07:21 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Great video, and superb obligatory comic.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Dec 25 2020, 09:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2425 Joined: 30-January 13 From: Penang, Malaysia. Member No.: 6853 |
There is a supplementary file here (a c. 18 MB TIF file): which I think is open access (correct me if I'm wrong), and this gives the names of the nearly 200 quadrangles used for mapping the site. I really wanted to have this for Curiosity, but it was never released, as far as I know. Phil, wonderful stuff - does the paper provide a scale for this map, specifically the size of each of these quadrangles, also it would be good to know how to attribute it (I dont have access to the paper) TIA |
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Dec 26 2020, 07:59 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10149 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Hi Paul - this abstract from LPSC earlier this year:
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2020/pdf/2254.pdf says the quadrangles are 1200 m by 1200 m. This is the paper citation: Stack, K.M., Williams, N.R., Calef, F., Sun, V.Z., Williford, K.H., Farley, K.A., Eide, S., Flannery, D., Hughes, C., Jacob, S.R. and Kah, L.C., 2020. Photogeologic map of the perseverance rover field site in Jezero Crater constructed by the Mars 2020 Science Team. Space Science Reviews, 216(8), pp.1-47. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Dec 26 2020, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2425 Joined: 30-January 13 From: Penang, Malaysia. Member No.: 6853 |
Many, many thanks Phil, much appreciated.
Hi Paul - this abstract from LPSC earlier this year: https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2020/pdf/2254.pdf says the quadrangles are 1200 m by 1200 m. This is the paper citation: Stack, K.M., Williams, N.R., Calef, F., Sun, V.Z., Williford, K.H., Farley, K.A., Eide, S., Flannery, D., Hughes, C., Jacob, S.R. and Kah, L.C., 2020. Photogeologic map of the perseverance rover field site in Jezero Crater constructed by the Mars 2020 Science Team. Space Science Reviews, 216(8), pp.1-47. Phil |
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Dec 28 2020, 10:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2919 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
There is a supplementary file here (a c. 18 MB TIF file): https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art..._MOESM2_ESM.tif Phil A lot of mountain regions from near my place including Pyrénées, Ordesa Y Monte Perdido, Pico de Europa... -------------------- |
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Jan 16 2021, 08:04 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 8-May 14 Member No.: 7185 |
Hi all,
Before February 18th I will be trying to get an article about Perseverance into one of the major newspapers of Denmark. I had an article in "Politiken" about the SpaceX Starship just before its December flight test. Would you know of a good resource with a timeline of all EDL events? - I have been struggling a bit to find a source for all events with the precise Earth time as well as the expected altitude and speed at the time of the event. I'm sure the data is out there, but would like it from an authoritative source. Thanks! - Mercure |
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Jan 16 2021, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
Would you know of a good resource with a timeline of all EDL events? - I have been struggling a bit to find a source for all events with the precise Earth time as well as the expected altitude and speed at the time of the event. The EDL timeline is not precisely known in advance but can vary by as much as a minute or two at least. https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/timeline/lan...escent-landing/ is as good as we know. Predicted landing time is Feb. 18, 2021, at approximately 12:30 p.m. PST (that's 20:30 UT.) -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Jan 16 2021, 08:51 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 8-May 14 Member No.: 7185 |
Thanks mcaplinger!
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Jan 22 2021, 04:16 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10149 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
There was a Mars Sample Return sample caching workshop today with very interesting details about how Perseverance will go about its task of collecting and caching samples for later return. Here are the presentation slides:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fj5ZPFuieC...Dq2OQlq9v6TxN3/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nRoqv5vK_K...GpDb0tGYUnXlvo/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u19Svop3Ka3buHUyaemk2p2-7a1L-ZOC/ ://https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u1...k2p2-7a1L-ZOC/ Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 22 2021, 07:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1083 Joined: 19-February 05 From: Close to Meudon Observatory in France Member No.: 172 |
There was a Mars Sample Return sample caching workshop today with very interesting details about how Perseverance will go about its task of collecting and caching samples for later return. Here are the presentation slides: Phil Thanks so much Phil for the useful links. I have already prepared a PPT presentation for our large Perseverance landing public event next February we (Planetary Society + Societe Astronomique de France/SAF) are organizing in Paris at our National Science Museum (Cite des Sciences). It integrates the sample-return mission that follows the Perseverance mission. =>> Now, thanks to you, I have a very good update to show about the latest sampling-cache strategy |
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Feb 11 2021, 04:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 13-October 09 From: Olympus Mons Member No.: 4972 |
NASA's Eyes show Mars is now a barely resolved circle from the distance of Percy. Just a week away!!!
https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/orrery/#/sc_pers...-02-11T15:51:36 -------------------- "Thats no moon... IT'S A TRAP!"
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Feb 11 2021, 04:35 PM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
I thought the sample tubes were dropped as each one was filled . Learnt something new...
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Feb 12 2021, 07:34 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10149 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Not a great idea because they want to minimize the time it takes for the 'fetch' rover to pick up the cache. If the tubes are set down all along the traverse the fetch rover has to drive the whole traverse length to get them and then get back to the return vehicle. With the two cache system they decide which cache is best (almost certainly the second one) and go for that, land as close as possible and do a quick trip to collect it. In fact the only real reason for the first cache is insurance against a catastrophic failure of the rover before the second cache can be set down.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 15 2021, 06:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
It's only as I read those excellent documents about the sampling plan that I absorb for the first time that, if all goes well, the scientific results from this mission will be far beyond what the instruments on Perseverance measure. This first occurred to me when I thought about absolute age dating, not from one rock or another, but from several rocks in the stratigraphy, and suddenly we'll have a specific, detailed timeline of Mars's early evolution.
We need a lot of successes to occur before this knowledge will be in hand, but it's awe-inspiring to consider the leap in understanding that this mission sequence is attempting. |
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Feb 15 2021, 08:33 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 28-September 17 From: Huntsville, Alabama Member No.: 8258 |
I have a question about the current landing target. In two recent EDL animations (Eyes and the one about 3 minutes long), the landing is much nearer the delta face, maybe only several hundred meters away, instead of the earlier point near a 400 m crater more than a km away to the S. I'm answering some questions on YT threads and do not want to provide bad information. Thanks.
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