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fredk
post Sep 18 2006, 04:56 PM
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It's been pretty slow in the Spirit forum recently, but hopefully this will reawaken it.

A new thin dark streak is visible in the latest sol 961 rear hazcam, that wasn't visible in the previous shot, from sol 924. It's visible in both L and R hazcam views. It looks remarkably like a dust devil streak, but the scale is very small. Here's the R hazcam from sol 894 subtracted from the 961 image:
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The dark streak cuts across more or less from left to right about a third of the frame down from the top. Other differences are visible, mostly around rocks, due to the change in sun angle between the frames.

To demonstrate that the dark streak isn't just an effect due to that change in sun angle, look at these three frames:
sol 856, local time 11:07
sol 961, local time 11:21
sol 894, local time 11:45

You can see that the shadows move progressively from the sol 856 to 961 to 894 frames above, as you'd expect from the local times they were taken. But if you flip between the three frames, you can see the dark streak only in the middle (sol 961) frame. If the streak were due to changing sun angle it would be at least as strongly visible in the 856 or 894 frame. Therefore it's not due to sun angle.

As I said, this is way too small for a dust devil streak. And, I don't think we're anywhere near dust devil season. My guess about the origin of this is a small "crumble event" on one of those dark rocks in the upper left, followed by the normal winds blowing some dark dust downwind.

Anyone know if the streak direction is consistent with what the winds should be doing now? Has anyone else noticed changes near Spirit?
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- fredk   Changes at Low Ridge Haven   Sep 18 2006, 04:56 PM
- - djellison   Look at the change in the shadow cast by the aft s...   Sep 18 2006, 05:34 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 18 2006, 06:34 PM)...   Sep 18 2006, 05:42 PM
- - fredk   Doug, the local time difference between the sol 85...   Sep 18 2006, 06:29 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 18 2006, 07:29 PM) Any...   Sep 18 2006, 06:56 PM
- - djellison   Oh crikey - I was looking at something else.....yo...   Sep 18 2006, 06:50 PM
- - dvandorn   I guess I'm missing something -- except for th...   Sep 18 2006, 07:26 PM
- - djellison   The attachment that Fred did - and the one I did -...   Sep 18 2006, 07:30 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 18 2006, 09:30 PM)...   Sep 18 2006, 07:41 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (climber @ Sep 18 2006, 08:41 PM) N...   Sep 18 2006, 08:42 PM
- - djellison   I'm not sure to be honest - probably best to m...   Sep 18 2006, 08:00 PM
- - fredk   Dvandorn and anyone having trouble seeing this in ...   Sep 18 2006, 08:37 PM
|- - dilo   Fred, your observation is interesting but what dis...   Sep 18 2006, 08:48 PM
- - fredk   Dilo, the ground here has regions with greatly dif...   Sep 18 2006, 09:04 PM
- - djellison   That's what I thought dilo - but the change is...   Sep 18 2006, 09:13 PM
|- - dilo   ok, let's wait for next images...   Sep 18 2006, 09:21 PM
- - fredk   I identified the putative source region of the dar...   Sep 19 2006, 04:43 AM
|- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (fredk @ Sep 19 2006, 02:43 PM) I...   Sep 25 2006, 12:18 AM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Sep 25 2006, 12:18 A...   Sep 26 2006, 12:15 AM
- - dvandorn   Yes -- with the flicker gif I can make out the cha...   Sep 19 2006, 05:59 AM
|- - dilo   Nice hypothesis, Fred. I was looking for other Pan...   Sep 19 2006, 07:32 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 19 2006, 09:32 AM) Nice...   Sep 19 2006, 09:36 AM
||- - dilo   QUOTE (climber @ Sep 19 2006, 09:36 AM) T...   Sep 19 2006, 10:31 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (dilo @ Sep 19 2006, 08:32 AM) I wa...   Sep 22 2006, 10:47 AM
|- - dilo   Eh, Ustrax, not only I remember these images... in...   Sep 22 2006, 07:05 PM
- - Tesheiner   Climber & Dilo, Be careful! Spirit + DD =...   Sep 19 2006, 10:58 AM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Sep 19 2006, 12:58 PM)...   Sep 19 2006, 11:20 AM
|- - helvick   I don't want to seem like a spoil sport but I ...   Sep 19 2006, 03:09 PM
- - Bill Harris   This is not necessarily a dust devil in the usual ...   Sep 19 2006, 11:15 AM
- - fredk   Nice find, Dilo! I have to wonder like Bill H...   Sep 19 2006, 05:53 PM
- - dvandorn   The darkening in El Dorado isn't very long -- ...   Sep 22 2006, 02:33 PM
- - slinted   Is there a second image to confirm the darkening? ...   Sep 22 2006, 09:53 PM
- - alan   Another streak has appeared at El Dorado, also a c...   Sep 25 2006, 12:26 AM
- - slinted   The newest streak is darker than the previous, and...   Sep 25 2006, 02:23 AM
|- - dilo   Very good, Alan/Slinted! I noticed too a coupl...   Sep 25 2006, 02:35 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Fine work catching and displaying those streaks, d...   Sep 25 2006, 02:57 AM
- - dvandorn   I dunno -- I'm not necessarily convinced that ...   Sep 25 2006, 04:25 AM
- - Jeff7   Hopefully this means that we'll start seeing s...   Sep 25 2006, 08:46 PM
- - dot.dk   Has anyone 'in the knows' commented on the...   Oct 3 2006, 04:10 PM
|- - helvick   I haven't noticed any official statement indic...   Oct 3 2006, 07:28 PM
- - alan   Another streak on El Dorado this time at the south...   Oct 6 2006, 04:58 AM
|- - dilo   Yes, Alan... I noticed too! Look to this anima...   Oct 6 2006, 05:57 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (dilo @ Oct 6 2006, 05:57 AM) ... E...   Oct 8 2006, 10:12 PM
- - alan   QUOTE (...hey, Spirit changed orientation! ohm...   Oct 6 2006, 07:27 AM
- - Tesheiner   It didn't move, at least by commanding; curren...   Oct 6 2006, 07:46 AM
- - slinted   Here's an enhanced-by-difference-image version...   Oct 6 2006, 04:12 PM
|- - dilo   Great movie, slinted! looking to it, I have im...   Oct 6 2006, 09:19 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (slinted @ Oct 6 2006, 04:12 PM) He...   Oct 31 2006, 04:28 PM
- - alan   I've been checking the sundial images myself s...   Oct 8 2006, 10:49 PM
- - jvandriel   Movement at Low Ridge Haven but now on the solar d...   Oct 30 2006, 11:44 AM
- - djellison   That thing's been ratting around that little p...   Oct 30 2006, 12:49 PM
- - jvandriel   Doug, I know, that wire is there for 1000 Sols ( ...   Oct 30 2006, 01:24 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (jvandriel @ Oct 30 2006, 05:24 AM)...   Oct 30 2006, 03:37 PM
|- - monty python   QUOTE (jvandriel @ Oct 30 2006, 07:24 AM)...   Oct 31 2006, 08:19 AM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (monty python @ Oct 31 2006, 12:19 ...   Nov 6 2006, 07:23 PM
- - djellison   RE: Changes at Low Ridge Haven   Oct 30 2006, 03:42 PM
- - Nix   Either that or a D...nah,.. the joke is getting ra...   Oct 30 2006, 04:42 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Nix @ Oct 30 2006, 11:42 AM) Eith...   Oct 31 2006, 12:47 AM
- - rogelio   A minor point (and perhaps one that has elicited c...   Oct 30 2006, 06:21 PM
- - jvandriel   ElkGroveDan, here are the numbers of the 2 images...   Oct 30 2006, 06:49 PM
- - djellison   Oh - I distinctly remember the '99 total eclip...   Oct 30 2006, 07:17 PM
|- - JRehling   What does gliding during a total eclipse do to you...   Oct 30 2006, 07:28 PM
- - djellison   Actually - the Civil Aviation Authority declared t...   Oct 30 2006, 07:33 PM
- - climber   Two notes : 1- I saw the eclipse 100% from a site ...   Oct 30 2006, 08:34 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (climber @ Oct 30 2006, 12:34 PM) I...   Oct 30 2006, 10:33 PM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Oct 30 2006, 11:33 P...   Oct 31 2006, 08:36 AM
- - djellison   You would end up depending on wind strong enough t...   Oct 31 2006, 08:34 AM
- - jvandriel   I have added 1 image and now the movement is even...   Nov 3 2006, 10:00 AM
- - Ant103   I think that the moove of the wire is due to therm...   Nov 3 2006, 10:06 AM
|- - MahFL   All of the dust would not be blown away if it was ...   Nov 3 2006, 11:12 AM
|- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (MahFL @ Nov 3 2006, 12:12 PM) Also...   Nov 3 2006, 11:58 AM
- - djellison   We know there are winds on Mars. We've seen fl...   Nov 3 2006, 12:29 PM
- - fredk   Returning to what got me to start this thread, we ...   Nov 3 2006, 05:46 PM
- - jvandriel   Spirit still working at Low Ridge Haven. jvandrie...   Nov 4 2006, 08:59 PM
- - CosmicRocker   It would have made sense if it was put on the rove...   Nov 8 2006, 04:26 AM
- - remcook   I think both MSL and Exomars plan to have windsens...   Nov 8 2006, 10:03 AM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (remcook @ Nov 8 2006, 10:03 AM) Ma...   Nov 8 2006, 07:26 PM
- - Gray   The scientific value of a windsock on the sundial ...   Nov 8 2006, 05:43 PM
- - alan   Another streak formed on El Dorado, this one runni...   Nov 8 2006, 08:38 PM
- - slinted   Alan, good eyes! To back up a bit, the pancam...   Nov 9 2006, 03:44 AM
|- - dilo   Is a streak invasion, guys! QUOTE (slinted...   Nov 9 2006, 06:51 AM
- - CosmicRocker   Wow, it's really amazing how much activity you...   Nov 9 2006, 05:49 AM
- - Burmese   One wonders if this 'activity' is occuring...   Nov 9 2006, 07:32 AM
- - Tesheiner   Yeah, this place is very dynamic. I would say thes...   Nov 9 2006, 09:40 AM
- - climber   It's strange to see such a dynamic place where...   Nov 9 2006, 05:58 PM
- - Burmese   Particles of a certain size stay there, smaller on...   Nov 10 2006, 02:49 AM
|- - ustrax   Now that the exhile it's over it is time to se...   Nov 10 2006, 02:29 PM
- - fredk   New dark streak visible between sols 1010 and 1013...   Nov 10 2006, 04:48 PM
- - alan   Another new streak at El Dorado, running from the ...   Nov 18 2006, 03:58 PM
|- - dilo   Yes, Alan... In reality, there are two new streaks...   Nov 19 2006, 07:18 AM
|- - dilo   Perhaps I'm going crazy, but I see another wea...   Nov 21 2006, 08:54 PM
- - lyford   I can't be sure, but I think it's trying t...   Nov 21 2006, 09:15 PM
- - Nix   You got it nailed lyford...good one. Nico   Nov 21 2006, 09:36 PM
- - Stu   Love that Ultrayan grafitti...! Just a qui...   Nov 22 2006, 12:05 AM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (Stu @ Nov 22 2006, 12:05 AM) Love ...   Nov 22 2006, 11:13 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (ustrax @ Nov 22 2006, 12:13 PM) An...   Nov 24 2006, 06:31 AM
- - Ant103   Maybe you will think that this image is the same a...   Nov 24 2006, 05:55 PM
- - fredk   Another new dark streak on McCool Hill (white arro...   Nov 24 2006, 05:59 PM
|- - centsworth_II   QUOTE (fredk @ Nov 24 2006, 12:59 PM) We ...   Nov 24 2006, 06:11 PM
- - mhoward   Quicktime movie of sunset illumination at Low Ridg...   Nov 25 2006, 03:29 PM
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