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MSL landing site: Gale Crater
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post Aug 4 2012, 07:39 PM
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That's really cool! <- I've probably said that in about 30% of my posts on UMSF! smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2012, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Aug 4 2012, 06:38 PM) *
I have temporarily hosted the map at Dropbox. Here's the KML file to access it.


Oh *wow*... what a treat to come home to... fanTASTIC, thank you!


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post Aug 4 2012, 09:25 PM
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I'd say we're ready from our end! wheel.gif


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post Aug 4 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 4 2012, 05:14 PM) *
Oh *wow*... what a treat to come home to... fanTASTIC, thank you!


Indeed!
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post Aug 5 2012, 12:55 AM
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Here's a view of the planned traverse of MSL (first 20 km or so) according to a reference I found online:

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Another angle:

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post Aug 5 2012, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Aug 4 2012, 07:38 PM) *
I have temporarily hosted the map at Dropbox. Here's the KML file to access it.


Awesome work! Is there any way to overlap the rest of Gale with the Mars Express Imagery?


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post Aug 5 2012, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 4 2012, 04:55 PM) *
Here's a view of the planned traverse of MSL (first 20 km or so) according to a reference I found online:


Here's a rough-looking section of that route, right up the canyon! I put in a very crude possible path for the rover. The hour draws near!

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post Aug 5 2012, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE (jmknapp @ Aug 5 2012, 02:55 AM) *
Here's a view of the planned traverse of MSL (first 20 km or so) according to a reference I found online:

That canyon looks promising and the views might just be great!
Can you post a link to that reference, Joe?

QUOTE (Nix @ Aug 5 2012, 07:52 AM) *
Awesome work! Is there any way to overlap the rest of Gale with the Mars Express Imagery?

Probably yes. Although I think it might be difficult to match the overlay with the MOLA background.
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post Aug 5 2012, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Aug 5 2012, 02:56 AM) *
That canyon looks promising and the views might just be great!
Can you post a link to that reference, Joe?


MSL Landing Sites: Gale, Reconsidered (PDF) -- Edgett, Milliken, Grotzinger, Malin

The "notional" track I used is on p. 14.


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post Aug 5 2012, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (walfy @ Aug 5 2012, 07:18 AM) *
Here's a rough-looking section of that route, right up the canyon! I put in a very crude possible path for the rover. The hour draws near!


A martian Monument Valley, right there... might be years until we get there, but boy, the views we'll have... ohmy.gif


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post Aug 5 2012, 05:36 PM
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I too am looking forward to some incredible canyon views... smile.gif

One question, though: Is there a set of constraints for entering them related to comm? Presumably you'd never want MSL to get into a situation where line-of-sight with the orbiters during their passes was too brief to be useful; in all likelihood, the DTE antenna would be blocked most of the time as well.


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post Aug 5 2012, 05:51 PM
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I don't know if any potential MSL route takes them into areas with much more of the sky blocked than we had in the Columbia Hills or inside Endurance or Victoria. Maybe that's the case, but I'd have to check with the great slope maps we have now. The anaglyphs look dramatic but they can give an exagerated sense of depth.

I vaguely remember communications being affected to some extent inside Victoria, but I could be wrong...
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post Aug 5 2012, 06:50 PM
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The horizon as seen by MSL will be less than 20-25 deg from horizontal so we might have a shorter UHF pass but I don't think we will be limited in comm.

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post Aug 5 2012, 10:34 PM
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Some fascinating screengrabs from the Planetary Society event currently being broadcast on livestream... these slides were shown by Matt Golombeck - simulated views of what MSL will see if it approaches and then reaches "The Mound". He said these are all 1:1, no stretching...

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Oh my... ohmy.gif blink.gif

Matt also went to great paisn to say that MSL *won't* climb to the summit of Mt Sharp because the material higher up was too "light and fluffy".


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post Aug 5 2012, 11:05 PM
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I heard some similar talk about Husband Hill, and Victoria.... and Endeavor... we'll wait and see, eh?
(not saying Matt is wrong, I just think it's too early to predict what the rover will be able to do).
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