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Pluto Surface Observations 2: NH Post-Encounter Phase, 10 Oct 2015- 1 Feb 2016
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post Oct 13 2015, 09:05 PM
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This thread is for discussion of NH Pluto surface observations received after 10 Oct 2015.


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post Oct 29 2015, 10:27 PM
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Was the new full MVIC crescent image rotated 3 degrees prior to being published, or is the striping/banding artefact (mostly removed in this version) not aligned with the sensor?
I also notice there was a slight change in scale between this release and the earlier one. This one appears about 0.13% smaller (about 4.5 pixels out of every 3000).

Also, @ZLD That new version of the stretched color image is fantastic.
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This new image is in its original orientation, so yes, the residual electronic noise is tilted relative to the image rows and columns. Also, the first-released version of the image was rotated slightly to make the horizon horizontal near the skyline mountains, for maximum scenic effect.

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post Oct 30 2015, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (john_s @ Oct 29 2015, 06:14 PM) *
This new image is in its original orientation, so yes, the residual electronic noise is tilted relative to the image rows and columns. Also, the first-released version of the image was rotated slightly to make the horizon horizontal near the skyline mountains, for maximum scenic effect.

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Thanks! I probably should have figured as much, since the star streaks are aligned with the image and the vertical dimension of the image is consistent with what one would expect for a non-rotated image. tongue.gif
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post Oct 30 2015, 02:42 PM
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I have just read a part about Io in the book "Vzdálené světy I" (Distant Worlds I) by Tomáš Petrásek and Igor Duszek from 2009. This book is focused on the Jovian moons, and the chapters on Io contain some really interesting pictures and information on Io, with many references. Apparently, in a lot of places, Io is covered by sulfur dioxide snow spewed by volcanoes that also cause the signature otherworldy blue colors that we see on pictures of Io's, and a lot of those plumes are probably caused by underground deposits of sulfur dioxide (hidden just few tens or hundreds of meters below the surface and occasionally flowing up like hot springs on Earth) being boiled when lava flows into them. Some calderas on Io also display frozen SO2 that resulted from them being filled by liquid SO2 from underground springs that subsequently froze. It also had some very nice pictures of Ionian mountains, no, not volcanoes, mountains caused by tectonic activity made of rock.
Mountains like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tohil_Mons#/m...:Tohil_Mons.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euboea_Montes...boea_Montes.png
http://www.gishbartimes.org/2009/02/lpsc-2...-of-hiiaka.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mount...o_at_sunset.jpg

There is also this close-up picture of Io that strangely reminds me of Pluto's "snakeskin terrain". I couldn't find it on the Internet so I photographed it from the book by my smartphone, hope this meets fair use guidelines:
http://i11.pixs.ru/storage/4/1/4/Iocloseup...63_19323414.png

The scale is a lot closer that the snakeskin terrain, but still...

What is the relevance of this to Pluto you might say? Well, for one, the absence of a dense atmosphere does not mean the absence of liquids. Regional, small, liquid deposits can exists underground in a shallow depth. Io's atmosphere is about 1000x thinner than Pluto. It does not require for it to be a relic of a past "dense atmosphere epoch" either, as these deposits can arise by normal volcanic acitivity. Liquids leaking on the surface might freeze and boil, creating weird formations. The book also mentions that the present epoch of Io's hyperactivity might not be permanent and it might swing into and out of cycles of hyperactivity and saner volcanic acitivity. Just because there are no obvious active geysers on the side of Pluto that New Horizons imaged in high resolution does not mean it is not presently geologically active, if we count the time of the close flyby as being the time when the probe was 768 000 km or closer to Pluto (time when it took the iconic "heart" photo https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/pluto-is...amed-the-heart), the close flyby took just below 15 hours or less than a single day. If your flyby of Earth was that short, odds are there wouldn't be any obvious active volcanos visible at a given side of the Earth. I live in a country (Slovakia) that had the last volcanic activity occuring 100 000 years ago, yet it would be silly to call Slovakia "geologically inactive" terrain. So my money is on Pluto being active right now, we've seen "remnants of cryovolcanism" on Ariel and this is definitely something entirely different.

Some violent sublimation might also occur, as apparently, it is not just the eliptical orbit that changes Pluto's temperature but the extreme axial tilt might play an even bigger role. Apparently, the summer temperatures can go into 70s in the Kelvin scale and the melting point of nitrogen is 63.15 Kelvin, which is also the boiling point in such a thin atmosphere, so the sublimation is less "slow drying over millions of years" like on Callisto and more flash boling of ice:

https://blogs.nasa.gov/pluto/2015/10/23/a-p...or-all-seasons/

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A summertime high might only be “in the 70’s” as measured in Kelvins—about 330 degrees below zero Fahrenheit (minus 200 degrees Celsius).
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- nprev   Pluto Surface Observations 2: NH Post-Encounter Phase   Oct 13 2015, 09:05 PM
- - Daniele_bianchino_Italy   QUOTE (nprev @ Oct 13 2015, 10:05 PM) Thi...   Oct 14 2015, 09:35 AM
|- - MichaelPoole   QUOTE (Daniele_bianchino_Italy @ Oct 14 2015,...   Oct 14 2015, 10:42 AM
- - Gladstoner   Pluto LORRI close-ups: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/so...   Oct 16 2015, 05:25 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's the full list of LORRI images published...   Oct 16 2015, 05:26 PM
- - Gladstoner   I would not have expected this pattern within the ...   Oct 16 2015, 05:30 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 16 2015, 05:30 PM...   Oct 16 2015, 07:59 PM
- - alan   LORRI site is slow, it must be getting mobbed. ET...   Oct 16 2015, 06:17 PM
|- - Nafnlaus   QUOTE (alan @ Oct 16 2015, 05:17 PM) LORR...   Oct 16 2015, 08:11 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's a hand-stitching of P_MPAN_1 Click the...   Oct 16 2015, 07:25 PM
- - volcanopele   Here's the version I made. This also includes...   Oct 16 2015, 07:47 PM
- - Gladstoner   I assume the blank/noisy LORRI image releases from...   Oct 16 2015, 08:02 PM
|- - Pluto7904   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 16 2015, 02:02 PM...   Oct 17 2015, 12:12 AM
|- - machi   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 16 2015, 10:02 PM...   Oct 17 2015, 01:17 AM
- - Gladstoner   I can understand regularly spaced pits and rows of...   Oct 16 2015, 11:29 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 17 2015, 12:29 AM...   Oct 17 2015, 11:45 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   These images may have been taken to ensure that Pl...   Oct 17 2015, 12:53 AM
- - eliBonora   The latest mosaic with LORRI images (one was so bl...   Oct 17 2015, 03:39 AM
- - Saturns Moon Titan   What was the resolution on the latest high res str...   Oct 17 2015, 11:21 AM
- - machi   Pits are much more plausible explanation. On major...   Oct 17 2015, 12:10 PM
|- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (machi @ Oct 17 2015, 07:10 AM) It...   Oct 18 2015, 11:26 PM
- - Gladstoner   I suspect the size, form, orientation, and cluster...   Oct 17 2015, 02:49 PM
- - Saturns Moon Titan   Are these the highest resolution images of Pluto w...   Oct 17 2015, 04:47 PM
|- - stfletch   Nope, we should get two strips which are about 70-...   Oct 17 2015, 04:55 PM
- - Gladstoner   Do we know (or can we estimate) the area of covera...   Oct 17 2015, 05:10 PM
- - volcanopele   Here was the predict for the pre-C/A strip   Oct 17 2015, 05:32 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 17 2015, 12:32 P...   Oct 17 2015, 05:48 PM
|- - tanjent   QUOTE (volcanopele @ Oct 18 2015, 01:32 A...   Oct 17 2015, 09:14 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (tanjent @ Oct 17 2015, 02:14 PM) U...   Oct 17 2015, 09:54 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 17 2015, 10:54 PM)...   Oct 18 2015, 12:18 PM
- - Gladstoner   Rough estimate of track shown rendered above, alon...   Oct 17 2015, 06:15 PM
- - Habukaz   Interesting comparison by Phil Metzger between clo...   Oct 18 2015, 01:20 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (Habukaz @ Oct 18 2015, 08:20 AM) I...   Oct 18 2015, 04:03 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 18 2015, 05:03 PM...   Oct 20 2015, 11:04 AM
- - stfletch   Updated file tracking received and expected LORRI ...   Oct 19 2015, 08:10 AM
- - ZLD   Looks like stereo imaging is starting to be assemb...   Oct 22 2015, 08:21 PM
|- - fredk   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 22 2015, 09:21 PM) fanta...   Oct 22 2015, 09:25 PM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 22 2015, 09:21 PM) those...   Oct 22 2015, 10:01 PM
|- - walfy   The above GIF for 3D glasses:   Oct 22 2015, 10:40 PM
- - ZLD   I was going by visual appearance along with the re...   Oct 22 2015, 09:27 PM
- - ZLD   It was a simple observation that was based not on ...   Oct 22 2015, 10:31 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's a full list of LORRI images published i...   Oct 23 2015, 06:25 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's a hand stitch of (only) the latest addi...   Oct 23 2015, 07:06 PM
- - peter59   I had great expectations associated with observati...   Oct 23 2015, 07:40 PM
- - alan   Some of the craters are brighter at ~5 o'clock...   Oct 23 2015, 07:41 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's a hand stitch of the 3 P_LEISA_HIRES_L1...   Oct 23 2015, 07:52 PM
- - JohnVV   just some fun a 1920x1080 desktop background   Oct 23 2015, 08:01 PM
- - Bill Harris   And a slightly different perspective on Charon as ...   Oct 23 2015, 08:21 PM
- - nprev   Seems like each release is newly amazing. Other ...   Oct 23 2015, 09:01 PM
- - peter59   Almost I missed it. Today's images taken from ...   Oct 23 2015, 09:02 PM
|- - stevesliva   @peter59 -- image links broken with ... Same as ...   Oct 23 2015, 09:18 PM
- - JohnVV   peter59 please fix your links copy/paste dose NOT...   Oct 23 2015, 09:19 PM
- - t_oner   Enlarged version   Oct 23 2015, 09:32 PM
|- - Gladstoner   QUOTE (t_oner @ Oct 23 2015, 03:32 PM) En...   Oct 23 2015, 09:52 PM
- - stevesliva   The mid latitudes are really fascinating. We sho...   Oct 23 2015, 09:34 PM
- - Gladstoner   Possible track projection: Since the frames don...   Oct 23 2015, 09:44 PM
- - Gladstoner   Interesting smudges along some of the fractures: ...   Oct 23 2015, 10:14 PM
- - JohnVV   one of the new images to come down "lor_02991...   Oct 24 2015, 04:13 AM
- - antipode   Gladstoner Very interesting. Outgassing deposit ...   Oct 24 2015, 06:43 AM
|- - ngunn   QUOTE (antipode @ Oct 24 2015, 07:43 AM) ...   Oct 24 2015, 07:33 AM
- - Gladstoner   For reference, a post by jccwrt mentioned the smud...   Oct 24 2015, 08:05 AM
- - Gladstoner   Their sporadic occurrence makes me think outgassin...   Oct 24 2015, 08:15 AM
- - fred_76   Some colors on the last Lorri images of Pluto, mad...   Oct 24 2015, 09:28 AM
- - ZLD   Here's a full tweened morph of the latest ster...   Oct 25 2015, 02:07 AM
|- - MichaelPoole   Why not water? This area is poor in nitrogen, meth...   Oct 25 2015, 10:29 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 25 2015, 02:07 AM) Here...   Oct 27 2015, 02:56 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 25 2015, 03:07 AM) One a...   Oct 28 2015, 03:21 AM
- - ZLD   Well, I wouldn't suggest water as a first poss...   Oct 25 2015, 01:34 PM
|- - MichaelPoole   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 25 2015, 02:34 PM) Well,...   Oct 25 2015, 10:13 PM
- - JohnVV   the surface coloring makes using SFS a bit " ...   Oct 26 2015, 07:09 AM
- - Habukaz   The latest LORRI images are really awesome (didn...   Oct 26 2015, 05:09 PM
- - wildespace   My mosaic from the new LORRI images, a nice sweep ...   Oct 27 2015, 07:36 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (wildespace @ Oct 27 2015, 08:36 PM...   Oct 28 2015, 01:03 AM
- - ZLD   That certainly has a very similar appearance! ...   Oct 28 2015, 02:26 PM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 28 2015, 02:26 PM) That ...   Oct 28 2015, 03:30 PM
- - ZLD   I don't want to get too speculative or off top...   Oct 28 2015, 04:05 PM
|- - MarsInMyLifetime   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 28 2015, 11:05 AM) Here...   Oct 29 2015, 03:00 PM
- - ZLD   Happy to hear and thank you! I'm always tr...   Oct 29 2015, 05:10 PM
|- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (ZLD @ Oct 29 2015, 12:10 PM) Happy...   Oct 30 2015, 12:29 AM
- - Gladstoner   New image: http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/a-fu...   Oct 29 2015, 06:40 PM
|- - wildespace   QUOTE (Gladstoner @ Oct 29 2015, 06:40 PM...   Oct 30 2015, 04:54 AM
- - Gladstoner   That is some dramatic terrain on Pluto's dark ...   Oct 29 2015, 06:48 PM
- - Explorer1   Now that's pretty! Putting a few more in t...   Oct 29 2015, 07:08 PM
- - ZLD   Great image. I can't wait to see if they have ...   Oct 29 2015, 07:15 PM
- - Gladstoner   FWIW, the star field is at the boundary between Ca...   Oct 29 2015, 08:18 PM
- - Herobrine   Was the new full MVIC crescent image rotated 3 deg...   Oct 29 2015, 10:27 PM
|- - john_s   This new image is in its original orientation, so ...   Oct 29 2015, 11:14 PM
|- - Herobrine   QUOTE (john_s @ Oct 29 2015, 06:14 PM) Th...   Oct 30 2015, 07:19 AM
|- - MichaelPoole   I have just read a part about Io in the book ...   Oct 30 2015, 02:42 PM
- - ZLD   Here's a quick tweened morph between the July ...   Oct 30 2015, 01:40 AM
- - Bill Harris   Very well put. Our current visits to minor plane...   Oct 30 2015, 03:37 PM
|- - TritonAntares   Two interesting smaller icefields in the 'new...   Oct 30 2015, 04:12 PM
- - ZLD   Looks like the new LORRI images have been posted. ...   Oct 30 2015, 05:21 PM
- - alan   The images of Pluto from 0.7 km must be the Charon...   Oct 30 2015, 05:53 PM
- - Gennady Ionov   Unfortunately, it seems there is no night-side ima...   Oct 30 2015, 05:53 PM
- - ZLD   In regards to the latest images: QUOTE Alex Parke...   Oct 30 2015, 06:17 PM
- - Herobrine   Here's the full list of LORRI images published...   Oct 30 2015, 06:30 PM
- - Saturns Moon Titan   So these are the Charon images which when processe...   Oct 30 2015, 06:48 PM
- - ZLD   Yes but the compressed versions we have probably w...   Oct 30 2015, 07:00 PM
- - ZLD   Moved to here.   Oct 30 2015, 09:15 PM
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