Calcium On The Moon |
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Calcium On The Moon |
Jun 8 2005, 10:42 PM
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Thanks to measurements by the D-CIXS X-ray spectrometer, ESA’s SMART-1 spacecraft has made the first ever unambiguous remote-sensing detection of calcium on the Moon:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/SMART-1/SEM4711DU8E_0.html -------------------- - Marco -
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Jun 9 2005, 08:52 AM
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I would have to dig into Apollo 15 and 16 command/service module x-ray spectrometer published papers and abstracts to see if their claim is true. It could well be, if only because of higher spectral resolution than the Apollo instruments provided.
But I still have a sour taste in my mouth after the big ESA trumpeting of the discovery of low latitude ice-rafts south of Elysium two months ago, with a total lack of recognition or credit that that had already been the conclusion of other groups based on Mars Surveyor and/or Odyssey data 2 years earlier. |
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Jun 9 2005, 03:09 PM
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![]() Interplanetary Dumpster Diver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4041 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
QUOTE (dilo @ Jun 8 2005, 10:42 PM) Thanks to measurements by the D-CIXS X-ray spectrometer, ESA’s SMART-1 spacecraft has made the first ever unambiguous remote-sensing detection of calcium on the Moon: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/SMART-1/SEM4711DU8E_0.html I am not sure about Apollo orbital data, but I know all three Luna sample returns and Apollo 16 samples had some calcium, even if Luna 16 and 20 returned samples slightly depleted of it. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_...42a8584b1826314 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data...42a8584b1826784 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-data...42a8584b1828221 Clementine also studied Calcium ratios. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_...42a8584b1830046 -------------------- |
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Jun 10 2005, 12:25 AM
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Calcium is a major rock forming element, present in feldspars and pyroxene's, major minerals in the basalt lavas and anorthosite igneous rocks of the moon.
I did a quick search on the Apollo x-ray spectrometer using Google and only found references to Aluminum, Silicon and Magnesium relative abundance mapping, so if calcium was detected, it was not with enough signal/noise ratio to be mappable. |
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Jun 14 2005, 07:07 AM
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A complete Moon-wide XRS map of magnesium is considered one of the most important short-term goals remaing for lunar science, given that element's particular importance in understanding lunar formation processes.
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Jun 14 2005, 03:41 PM
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What seems odd to me about any excitement over finding calcium on the Moon is that plagioclase is a mineral made up of silica, aluminum and calcium (and other trace elements). And the Moon's crust was formed from an ocean of plagioclase, creating the anorthositic gabbro that forms most of the current surface.
That right there would argue for there being a considerable amount of calcium on the Moon, and for people to have known this for quite a while. The only reason I can think of for calcium to be an as-yet undetected major lunar element would be if the plagioclase on the Moon is somehow different from terrestrial plagioclase. And we have a fair amount of plag in the lunar samples -- has there been some calcium anomaly detected in the lunar samples? -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Jun 14 2005, 03:54 PM
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This might be a case of it being known to exist, but not directly measured before from orbit.
Not that I know anything about this. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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| Guest_BruceMoomaw_* |
Jun 14 2005, 08:38 PM
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I believe that is the case -- from my admitttedly rather fuzzy memory of the data from the Apollo 15 and 16 XRS orbital surveys, Ca was not listed as one of the elements detected (and indeed was not intended to be).
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May 5 2006, 07:49 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
Forget gold - there's oxygen in them thair Moon rocks!
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/05....htm?list161084 -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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