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tedstryk
post Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
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On my website sometime back, I added a page on the image fragment sent back by the Mars-3 Lander. I released serveral versions, including the best quality processing using othodox techniques I would use on other images plus colorization here:
http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/fragmentc.jpg
However, I released another image, which I called a "What if" image. This image can be seen here http://pages.preferred.com/%7Etedstryk/m3s5b.jpg It was produced via extreme processing of the original data to make a Mars-like scene, but I made it clear on my website it was only a speculative image. I strongly doubt if the raw data even shows Mars at all - it could be all noise. But since this mode of processing looked strangely Viking-like, I figured I would put it on the web. I was warned by several, who said that while fun, some kooks might take it seriously. My response was that I really don't care what kooks think. Then I noticed this web page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2
They used the overprocessed image. I feel like it is being presented as a true photograph. This is of concern.


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- tedstryk   Mars 3 (Various Topics Merged)   Dec 29 2004, 10:36 PM
- - Geert   Okay, one more remark and then I leave you in peac...   Feb 14 2009, 08:09 AM
|- - tedstryk   The altitude typically used today is 125 km for at...   Feb 14 2009, 02:56 PM
- - yurdel   please visit http://mars3.gornai.ru - my attempt o...   Apr 22 2009, 02:07 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (yurdel @ Apr 22 2009, 10:07 PM) pl...   Apr 22 2009, 02:48 PM
|- - tolis   Hi, Nice video! One search method that *migh...   Apr 22 2009, 09:03 PM
||- - Geert   QUOTE (tolis @ Apr 23 2009, 04:03 AM) One...   Apr 23 2009, 01:06 AM
|- - yurdel   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 22 2009, 03:48 PM) Ver...   Apr 23 2009, 01:56 AM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (yurdel @ Apr 23 2009, 09:56 AM) I...   Apr 23 2009, 03:10 AM
|- - tedstryk   Amazing work!   Apr 23 2009, 09:43 AM
- - nprev   That was very cool, Yurdel; extremely interesting ...   Apr 23 2009, 02:06 AM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   Wow - this was and extremely interesting piece of ...   Apr 24 2009, 12:18 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   Very nice animation! A step by step illustrate...   Apr 24 2009, 09:11 AM
- - hendric   Yurdel, Very cool. Did you do this for a class?...   Apr 24 2009, 04:40 PM
|- - yurdel   QUOTE (hendric @ Apr 24 2009, 05:40 PM) Y...   Apr 25 2009, 02:27 AM
- - djellison   Very nice - I've always thought it would be fa...   Apr 24 2009, 04:50 PM
- - mhoward   Very nice! The vector animation somehow suits ...   Apr 24 2009, 05:12 PM
- - PDP8E   Happy MARS 3 Landing Anniversary (well, yesterday:...   Dec 3 2009, 10:06 PM
- - yurdel   The flashclip about Mars 3 has been added by music...   Dec 15 2009, 09:22 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Resurrecting an old thread... but it seems better ...   Apr 19 2011, 03:54 PM
|- - yurdel   My congratulations on forthcoming anniversary land...   Nov 29 2011, 11:06 PM
- - Paolo   a picture of a Mars-71 lander during impact tests   Mar 18 2013, 07:52 PM
- - volcanopele   Mars 3 hardware may have been spotted in some HiRI...   Apr 11 2013, 05:15 PM
- - remcook   Very nice "Philip J. Stooke from the Unive...   Apr 11 2013, 06:17 PM
- - TheAnt   I've read the text and found that they did the...   Apr 11 2013, 07:39 PM
|- - Zelenyikot   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 11 2013, 11:04 P...   Apr 12 2013, 06:57 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Apr 12 2013, 08:57 AM...   Apr 12 2013, 10:00 AM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Apr 11 2013, 10:57 PM...   Apr 13 2013, 04:42 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I did offer some advice on this, though I had noth...   Apr 11 2013, 11:04 PM
|- - Liss   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 12 2013, 03:04 A...   Apr 12 2013, 11:49 AM
- - Explorer1   It's the 2nd paragraph from bottom on this pag...   Apr 11 2013, 11:11 PM
- - J.J.   One similar feature would be easy to explain away;...   Apr 12 2013, 12:47 AM
- - vikingmars   Phil, As our "International" UMSF cartog...   Apr 12 2013, 12:21 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Darn it, my atlas is now out of date. According t...   Apr 12 2013, 03:39 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 12 2013, 05:39 P...   Apr 12 2013, 07:45 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 12 2013, 11:39 P...   Apr 13 2013, 03:22 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 12 2013, 08:22 PM) To ...   Apr 13 2013, 04:11 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Apr 13 2013, 10:11 AM...   Apr 13 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - Paolo   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 13 2013, 08:17 PM) ...   Apr 13 2013, 08:40 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Apr 14 2013, 01:17 AM) ...   Apr 14 2013, 07:48 AM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 09:48 AM) Per...   Apr 14 2013, 12:13 PM
||- - vikingmars   QUOTE (TheAnt @ Apr 14 2013, 02:13 PM) Th...   Apr 14 2013, 02:45 PM
||- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Apr 14 2013, 04:45 PM...   Apr 14 2013, 06:43 PM
|- - bobik   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 08:48 AM) Per...   Apr 14 2013, 05:52 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 14 2013, 09:52 AM) I d...   Apr 14 2013, 06:22 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 15 2013, 12:52 AM) I d...   Apr 14 2013, 06:28 PM
|- - bobik   QUOTE (Geert @ Apr 14 2013, 06:28 PM) As ...   Apr 15 2013, 05:57 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (bobik @ Apr 16 2013, 01:57 AM) Mak...   Apr 16 2013, 12:51 PM
- - elakdawalla   Good thing you're working on a second book Z...   Apr 12 2013, 06:33 PM
- - tasp   Orientation of the items on the surface was as exp...   Apr 12 2013, 11:17 PM
|- - stevesliva   QUOTE (tasp @ Apr 12 2013, 06:17 PM) IIRC...   Apr 13 2013, 02:10 AM
|- - Explorer1   QUOTE (tasp @ Apr 12 2013, 04:17 PM) LOL,...   Apr 13 2013, 03:07 AM
- - vikingmars   Solving the Mars 6 landing mistery would be great ...   Apr 13 2013, 05:46 AM
|- - Zelenyikot   QUOTE (ElkGroveDan @ Apr 13 2013, 04:42 A...   Apr 13 2013, 07:04 AM
|- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (Zelenyikot @ Apr 13 2013, 02:04 AM...   Apr 13 2013, 01:16 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Luna 9 had one camera, but Luna 13 had two - but o...   Apr 13 2013, 12:20 PM
- - akuo   It did work, unless the landing shock somehow disa...   Apr 13 2013, 01:41 PM
- - vikingmars   Phil, I know, you are drooling over the Mars 3 ima...   Apr 13 2013, 01:56 PM
|- - TheAnt   QUOTE (vikingmars @ Apr 13 2013, 03:56 PM...   Apr 13 2013, 02:23 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Thanks! Yes, it looks very good. Phil   Apr 13 2013, 02:37 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (Akuo)It did work, unless the landing shock....   Apr 13 2013, 06:17 PM
|- - akuo   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Apr 13 2013, 06:17 P...   Apr 13 2013, 07:40 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Mike said: "Given the changes in coordinate ...   Apr 13 2013, 06:49 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Apr 13 2013, 11:49 A...   Apr 13 2013, 07:49 PM
- - Paolo   you can see some of the Mars-71 hardware and tests...   Apr 14 2013, 09:52 AM
- - nprev   Geert, that's by far the most cogent theoretic...   Apr 14 2013, 10:58 AM
- - Paolo   a similar cause has also been given for the loss o...   Apr 14 2013, 12:20 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 14 2013, 08:20 PM) a s...   Apr 14 2013, 03:30 PM
- - Explorer1   No more improbable than installing an acceleromete...   Apr 14 2013, 06:04 PM
- - Paolo   thinking about the foam shell that should have pro...   Apr 15 2013, 11:39 AM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 01:39 PM) thi...   Apr 15 2013, 11:59 AM
|- - Zelenyikot   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 12:39 PM) thi...   Apr 15 2013, 05:35 PM
- - Paolo   from all of the pictures and videos I have seen (s...   Apr 15 2013, 01:44 PM
|- - Geert   QUOTE (Paolo @ Apr 15 2013, 08:44 PM) fro...   Apr 15 2013, 02:50 PM
- - Mr Valiant   Dream come true. After '42' years, we...   Apr 15 2013, 01:47 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (Mr Valiant @ Apr 15 2013, 06:47 AM...   Apr 15 2013, 02:13 PM
- - Mr Valiant   Oh, and on the durability of electronics when it c...   Apr 15 2013, 02:02 PM
- - Paolo   thanks. the find looks more and more intriguing   Apr 15 2013, 05:43 PM
- - dvandorn   Also, depending on the density of the foam used in...   Apr 15 2013, 05:50 PM
- - Decepticon   I hope there are plans for future pictures of the ...   Apr 16 2013, 07:53 AM
- - Zelenyikot   Zelenyikot and Mars 3 in museum of Lavochkin Resea...   Jun 26 2013, 04:28 PM
|- - Tom Dahl   That is a good clear photograph, thanks for postin...   Jun 26 2013, 07:34 PM
- - Zelenyikot   Yes, it is the full-scale model.   Jun 26 2013, 10:28 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The IAU has just named three craters (two very sma...   Aug 5 2013, 11:39 PM
- - alex_k   Hi everybody. I try to solve the puzzle of Mars 3...   Oct 16 2014, 03:01 PM
- - Phil Stooke   This was my interpretation: Phil   Oct 16 2014, 03:47 PM
|- - tedstryk   This is my interpretation, although this is from a...   Oct 16 2014, 11:05 PM
||- - alex_k   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 17 2014, 04:05 AM) ...   Oct 17 2014, 06:03 AM
||- - 4th rock from the sun   Without knowing the image geometry (specially the ...   Oct 17 2014, 07:54 AM
||- - tedstryk   I'll have to dig. I worked with this one many...   Oct 17 2014, 10:23 AM
||- - alex_k   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ Oct 17 2014, 1...   Oct 17 2014, 11:59 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 16 2014, 08:47 P...   Oct 17 2014, 05:52 AM
- - alex_k   The second orbital image which I tried to locate i...   Oct 17 2014, 12:06 PM
- - Phil Stooke   OK, two points. First, there is absolutely no geo...   Oct 17 2014, 04:36 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   All that processing to the 2nd image only reveals ...   Oct 18 2014, 02:17 AM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Oct 17 2014, 09:36 P...   Oct 18 2014, 11:03 AM
- - machi   Alex_k: You are working with noise, your second ho...   Oct 18 2014, 01:04 PM
|- - alex_k   QUOTE (machi @ Oct 18 2014, 06:04 PM) Ale...   Oct 18 2014, 01:43 PM
- - alex_k   About the lander's image. My attempt to recove...   Oct 18 2014, 02:05 PM
- - vikingmars   QUOTE (alex_k @ Oct 18 2014, 04:05 PM) Ab...   Oct 18 2014, 03:21 PM
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