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HiRISE PDS release, Has anyone done anything yet?
um3k
post Jun 6 2007, 06:37 PM
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Has anyone played around with the HiRISE PDS release images yet? More specifically, color images? I have no time to do anything. sad.gif

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/pds_release.php
http://pds-imaging.jpl.nasa.gov/Missions/MRO_mission.html
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post Dec 17 2007, 11:38 PM
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Can I ask something that's been on my mind for a while? Is anyone else out there wondering why the good folks behind the MRO mission aren't making more of its images? Or taking... oh jeez, how do I put this without sounding ungrateful... more exciting, more stimulating images?

I mean, looking at that picture up there I thought, like Doug, "B****y hell!!" Look what it can do! That detail! But every week - at least for the past couple of months or so - I've gone to the MRO site on New Release day, looked at the images and although I haven't thought "So what?" I have thought "Hmmm... ok...". Nothing has really grabbed me, not like in the early days when every pic made me shake my head with disbelief. Lots of pictures of polygonal structures at the poles... strange layering here and there... dunefields... all very interesting scientifically, I'm sure, and very useful for planning further missions certainly, but nothing startling, nothing hypnotic for people not directly involved in the field.

I am NOT putting down MRO, no-one suggest that I am, please. But I do know that while this mission had me almost rabid with expectation and excitement in the days just after landing now I find myself getting a little ho-hum about the images being released. I think they're just too large scale. I'd love to see extreme close-ups of surface features, showing more familiar scales. I know anyone with a decent broadband service and a good PC etc can do that for themselves if they download and peruse the images at their leisure, but there must be many, many people like me who are still on dialup who are using less-than-state-of-the-art PCs who would love to be able to see images like the ones OWW and Nirgal posted above.

Again, I'm not disrespecting MRO or anyone behind it. I just think that OWW's pic shows the real capability of the camera, and that, perhaps, more could be made of it. The most amazing images for me have shown crumbling cliff faces, mesas casting long jagged shadows, things like that. I think we need to see more of those - and if they're already on the pictures, then dramatic features like those need to be zoomed in on and posted as pictures in their own right.

Not criticising. Just a little frustrated. smile.gif


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post Dec 18 2007, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 17 2007, 03:38 PM) *
Can I ask something that's been on my mind for a while? Is anyone else out there wondering why the good folks behind the MRO mission aren't making more of its images? Or taking... oh jeez, how do I put this without sounding ungrateful... more exciting, more stimulating images?

Well, don't the HiRISE team release pretty much EVERYTHING they take to their website eventually? This is in marked contrast to most teams, who do very well to release at most one image per day (which is still quite a lot). If other teams are more selective, it's more likely that each choice will be more exciting. With HiRISE we are getting the ho-hum (*cough* Phoenix landing sites *cough cough*) along with the great, and everything in between. Consider MER. How thrilling is each and every Navcam drive image? (Are the northern plains aesthetically equivalent to the MER Sundial?)

Also, the best stuff in HiRISE images, IMO, is found when you look at the images at near their full resolution, and hunt around for fun features. None of us seems to have time to do that for all the images. So finding true greatness is hit and miss. That makes it all the more important for each of us to post cool stuff here when we find it. smile.gif

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post Dec 18 2007, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 18 2007, 04:52 AM) *
Also, the best stuff in HiRISE images, IMO, is found when you look at the images at near their full resolution, and hunt around for fun features.


Thanks Emily, appreciate the feedback. That's exactly my point. As most people here know by now, I do a lot of what's now trendily called "Outreach" (aka 'standing at the front of a drafty church hall or community centre showing spacey pics to the public' rolleyes.gif ) and to be brutally honest I can't really use most of the MRO images as they are. The images that I can and do use succesfully are the smaller scale ones, the crops I've managed to take from the large images, and features people here have picked out and kindly given me permission to use - the crumbling ledges, shadow-casting mesas, etc. I think that the results of HiRISE - heralded as "The People's Camera" I seem to remember? - are not being shared adequately. And by that I don't mean anything is being held back, I know they release everything, but I think it would be a good idea for the team to do some of that "hunting around for fun features" you referred to and put those pics on the website too. That's the way they'll get people more inspired and excited by the camera, the mission, and Mars itself. Because let's be honest, MRO is not exactly enjoying a very high profile right now. Discussion about its images here, on what is probably the most passionate and knowledgeable space exploration forum there is, has reduced greatly. We used to drool over each release of new images moments after they appeared. Now... well, not so much. Which is no big deal, these things wax and wane, but still...

I'm sure the team have images of their own favourite places, screen-grabs of "wow!" features that impressed them. We and the public would enjoy seeing those too, alongside the BIG images that are wonderful in their own right. smile.gif


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- um3k   HiRISE PDS release   Jun 6 2007, 06:37 PM
- - OWW   Speaking of the PDS release. I was browsing the CT...   Jul 14 2007, 05:51 PM
- - djellison   Well - IMG2PNG will help - and/or NASAView (googl...   Jul 14 2007, 05:57 PM
- - OWW   Thanks. Works great. I wonder how long it will tak...   Jul 14 2007, 06:40 PM
- - djellison   4,000 gigapixels of 6m res will cover the planet -...   Jul 14 2007, 06:58 PM
- - tim53   A coworker pointed out an easy way to find the dim...   Aug 2 2007, 06:09 PM
- - djellison   Thanks for that tip Tim - this is the first CTX im...   Aug 2 2007, 07:26 PM
- - MouseOnMars   I've only just downloaded the next version of ...   Aug 3 2007, 07:40 PM
- - monitorlizard   The USGS PIGWAD site has footprint maps for HiRISE...   Aug 17 2007, 08:51 AM
- - MouseOnMars   That's some interface. Well done Pigwad team ...   Aug 17 2007, 11:10 PM
- - DataMiner   Some of you may have noticed that samples of our c...   Oct 10 2007, 09:50 PM
- - djellison   Art - pure Art. http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP...   Oct 10 2007, 10:50 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Now what would be REALLY great would be if you mad...   Oct 11 2007, 04:52 AM
|- - DataMiner   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Oct 10 2007, 09:5...   Oct 11 2007, 06:07 PM
- - Stu   GORGEOUS false colour images released this week, a...   Oct 11 2007, 09:48 PM
- - Stu   ... and one more...   Oct 11 2007, 09:52 PM
- - nprev   Wow. Beautiful work, Stu. MRO is making Mars look ...   Oct 12 2007, 05:00 PM
- - Nirgal   Its really hard to keep up with the vast amount of...   Dec 14 2007, 11:33 PM
- - Stu   Welcome back Nirgal! GORGEOUS pic!   Dec 15 2007, 12:06 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 15 2007, 01:06 AM) Welco...   Dec 16 2007, 11:54 PM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 17 2007, 12:54 AM) On...   Dec 17 2007, 10:16 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (dilo @ Dec 17 2007, 11:16 AM) Welc...   Dec 17 2007, 04:05 PM
- - monitorlizard   Does anyone know the date of the second HiRISE PDS...   Dec 17 2007, 01:22 AM
- - monitorlizard   Just to clarify, I see that the HiBlog site mentio...   Dec 17 2007, 01:41 AM
- - OWW   I found the perfect landing site for MSL: http://...   Dec 17 2007, 08:04 PM
- - djellison   Bloody hell!   Dec 17 2007, 09:53 PM
- - nprev   ...couldn't have said it better myself, Doug...   Dec 17 2007, 10:10 PM
- - Stu   Can I ask something that's been on my mind for...   Dec 17 2007, 11:38 PM
|- - elakdawalla   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 17 2007, 03:38 PM) Can I...   Dec 18 2007, 04:52 AM
||- - Stu   QUOTE (elakdawalla @ Dec 18 2007, 04:52 A...   Dec 18 2007, 09:54 AM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 18 2007, 09:54 AM) I can...   Dec 18 2007, 10:31 AM
||- - GuyMac   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 18 2007, 02:54 AM) I...   Dec 23 2007, 09:23 PM
|- - charborob   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 17 2007, 06:38 PM) [snip...   Dec 18 2007, 03:26 PM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (charborob @ Dec 18 2007, 07:26 AM)...   Dec 18 2007, 04:18 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 18 2007, 04:18 PM...   Dec 18 2007, 05:09 PM
||- - lyford   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 18 2007, 08:18 AM...   Dec 20 2007, 04:31 AM
|- - GuyMac   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 17 2007, 04:38 PM) Can I...   Dec 21 2007, 05:51 PM
|- - Shaka   QUOTE (GuyMac @ Dec 21 2007, 07:51 AM) I ...   Dec 21 2007, 07:58 PM
- - nprev   Stu, only thing I can think of is that the MRO tea...   Dec 18 2007, 01:39 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 17 2007, 05:39 PM) Cas...   Dec 18 2007, 02:41 AM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 18 2007, 03:41 AM...   Dec 18 2007, 11:47 AM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (OWW @ Dec 18 2007, 12:47 PM) This ...   Dec 18 2007, 04:45 PM
- - monitorlizard   I'm in basic agreement with Emily's line o...   Dec 18 2007, 05:15 AM
- - Nix   My connection is okay for the files, and 4 gigs of...   Dec 18 2007, 10:53 AM
- - Stu   Good discussion, thanks for the feedback guys. Gue...   Dec 18 2007, 11:01 AM
- - djellison   You don't need a banzai computer to use the IA...   Dec 18 2007, 11:16 AM
- - Stu   Sorry, but that's just frakking* gorgeous...   Dec 18 2007, 11:54 AM
- - n1ckdrake   Here is the remarkable image OWW posted zoomed-in....   Dec 18 2007, 01:09 PM
- - n1ckdrake   Zoomed-in even more.   Dec 18 2007, 01:17 PM
- - Stu   Now, you see, that's just rubbing it in...   Dec 18 2007, 01:27 PM
- - djellison   If the DEM's make it out - I'll do HD anim...   Dec 18 2007, 03:32 PM
- - OWW   Nirgal, the image was downloaded from the PDS: htt...   Dec 18 2007, 05:19 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (OWW @ Dec 18 2007, 09:19 AM) Just ...   Dec 19 2007, 04:17 AM
- - mcaplinger   I'll also point out that the CTX PDS volumes a...   Dec 19 2007, 05:23 AM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 19 2007, 06:23 AM...   Dec 20 2007, 09:10 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (OWW @ Dec 20 2007, 01:10 PM) Also,...   Dec 20 2007, 11:20 PM
- - Stu   I'm a big fan of the THEMIS images too, there ...   Dec 19 2007, 06:33 AM
|- - Nirgal   Very good discussion here ... love those detail im...   Dec 19 2007, 06:04 PM
- - gndonald   I just looked at the image OWW posted and the two ...   Dec 20 2007, 12:52 PM
|- - OWW   QUOTE (gndonald @ Dec 20 2007, 01:52 PM) ...   Dec 20 2007, 09:27 PM
- - hendric   Bjorn, Any chance you could add support for thes...   Dec 21 2007, 04:37 PM
- - Stu   Thanks for the feedback GuyMac I do realise how...   Dec 22 2007, 09:52 AM
- - mcaplinger   Not a lot of response to my CTX challenge yet. Ma...   Dec 23 2007, 05:47 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 23 2007, 09:47 AM...   Dec 23 2007, 06:08 PM
- - Stu   Not a CTX image Mike, sorry, but I did have a lot ...   Dec 23 2007, 06:41 PM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (Stu @ Dec 23 2007, 07:41 PM) Not a...   Dec 23 2007, 08:05 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 23 2007, 12:05 PM) I ...   Dec 24 2007, 12:08 AM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Dec 24 2007, 12:08 AM...   Dec 24 2007, 12:14 AM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 23 2007, 04:14 PM)...   Dec 24 2007, 04:22 AM
|- - Stu   QUOTE (Nirgal @ Dec 23 2007, 08:05 PM) Go...   Dec 24 2007, 09:52 AM
- - OWW   Nice "White rock" image. These layered m...   Dec 23 2007, 07:03 PM
- - n1ckdrake   Rabe Crater CTX: P05_002890_1342_XI_45S326W   Dec 24 2007, 08:29 PM
|- - slinted   Wow n1ckdrake, that's a spectacular choice...   Dec 24 2007, 09:24 PM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (n1ckdrake @ Dec 24 2007, 09:29 PM)...   Jan 6 2008, 02:06 PM
- - djellison   I could have sworn I saw some map projected CTX im...   Dec 24 2007, 10:29 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (djellison @ Dec 24 2007, 02:29 PM)...   Dec 25 2007, 12:37 AM
- - n1ckdrake   Slope streaks in Arabia Terra - CTX: P06_003285_19...   Dec 25 2007, 05:28 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (n1ckdrake @ Dec 25 2007, 09:28 AM)...   Dec 25 2007, 06:17 PM
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|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (nprev @ Dec 25 2007, 11:02 AM) Doe...   Dec 25 2007, 07:40 PM
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- - nprev   Okay, I'm with you guys now; been thinking in ...   Dec 25 2007, 08:28 PM
- - Stu   Every time I see one of your images Nirgal I feel ...   Jan 6 2008, 02:39 PM
|- - Nirgal   QUOTE (Stu @ Jan 6 2008, 03:39 PM) ...   Jan 6 2008, 07:40 PM
- - n1ckdrake   unnecessary quoting removed Wow Nirgal, that p...   Jan 7 2008, 06:12 PM
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- - n1ckdrake   QUOTE (hendric @ Jan 10 2008, 03:51 PM) n...   Jan 11 2008, 05:06 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (n1ckdrake @ Jan 11 2008, 06:06 AM)...   Jan 11 2008, 03:42 PM
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|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 11 2008, 03:42 PM) H...   Jan 21 2008, 02:39 AM
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- - Stu   Cereberus Fossae is rapidly becoming one of my ...   Feb 3 2008, 02:24 PM
|- - charborob   QUOTE (Stu @ Feb 3 2008, 09:24 AM) Cerber...   Feb 5 2008, 04:50 PM
- - ngunn   Those are brilliant. Thanks for posting them Stu.   Feb 3 2008, 09:15 PM
- - n1ckdrake   Light-Toned Material in Western Louros Valles/Sina...   Feb 4 2008, 10:55 AM
- - Stu   Colourised crop from "layering and slope stre...   Feb 5 2008, 03:57 PM
- - Stu   Not strictly speaking a PDS issue, but I don't...   Feb 6 2008, 11:57 PM
- - Stu   Actually, I take that back. CURSE you Emily!...   Feb 8 2008, 09:03 AM
- - elakdawalla   Muhahaha...my evil plan is working. --Emily   Feb 8 2008, 03:26 PM
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