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post Aug 3 2011, 03:55 PM
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http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/aug/H...Mars_Brief.html
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post Aug 5 2011, 01:13 AM
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Amusingly, it's similar images of water that make me wonder if the albedo changes simply have to do with the clumpiness of the dust in the streaks. There's activity in snowpack called either sloughing/sluffing. Basically by altering only the texture of the snow, it creates streaks like the ones found in the dust on Mars:


I guess this sort of thing is more common with SAR... but you can see it in plain old visible light. The whole slope is bright white snow. Up close the color of the sluffs is no different. They're just reflecting the sky back to the camera differently.

Like snow, the dust probably falls in dry and sparsely packed, and clumps up more when something starts it rolling.

I wonder if the streaks are just clumpier dust on airfall dust. They do need a trigger, though. That could be a tiny bit of water starting a basically dry sluff.
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post Aug 18 2011, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (stevesliva @ Aug 4 2011, 08:13 PM) *
Amusingly, it's similar images of water that make me wonder if the albedo changes simply have to do with the clumpiness of the dust in the streaks. There's activity in snowpack called either sloughing/sluffing. Basically by altering only the texture of the snow, it creates streaks like the ones found in the dust on Mars:


I guess this sort of thing is more common with SAR... but you can see it in plain old visible light. The whole slope is bright white snow. Up close the color of the sluffs is no different. They're just reflecting the sky back to the camera differently.

Like snow, the dust probably falls in dry and sparsely packed, and clumps up more when something starts it rolling.

I wonder if the streaks are just clumpier dust on airfall dust. They do need a trigger, though. That could be a tiny bit of water starting a basically dry sluff.


I really like your photo of the snow sloughing features. I'm just starting a wikipedia article about martian dark slope streaks, and am wondering if I could use the photo there. If so, how should I credit it? Thanks.
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post Aug 18 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (schaffman @ Aug 18 2011, 08:35 AM) *
I really like your photo of the snow sloughing features. I'm just starting a wikipedia article about martian dark slope streaks, and am wondering if I could use the photo there. If so, how should I credit it? Thanks.

It's from here, in context:
http://wowasatch.com/Journal%202008-09/May-09/may-3.html
Contact info here http://wowasatch.com/contact.html

I know of the photographer from his online presence. He'll often link to his own photos from online forums, but I'm not sure how he'd react to wikipedia. You can see he does reserve the copyrights.
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post Aug 19 2011, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (stevesliva @ Aug 18 2011, 01:17 PM) *
It's from here, in context:
http://wowasatch.com/Journal%202008-09/May-09/may-3.html
Contact info here http://wowasatch.com/contact.html

I know of the photographer from his online presence. He'll often link to his own photos from online forums, but I'm not sure how he'd react to wikipedia. You can see he does reserve the copyrights.


Thank you.

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- - Fran Ontanaya   Didn't we see something similar at Santa Marķa...   Aug 4 2011, 06:15 PM
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- - Explorer1   Yes, they will keep looking with Crism. Apparently...   Aug 4 2011, 06:29 PM
- - neo56   That's weird CRISM does not see anything. They...   Aug 4 2011, 07:49 PM
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|- - Drkskywxlt   QUOTE (nprev @ Aug 4 2011, 09:02 PM) do a...   Aug 5 2011, 01:07 AM
|- - mwolff   QUOTE (Drkskywxlt @ Aug 4 2011, 07:07 PM)...   Aug 15 2011, 03:19 PM
- - stevesliva   Amusingly, it's similar images of water that m...   Aug 5 2011, 01:13 AM
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